Having a house built
 

There was an interesting topic on here about Kit Homes.

I have since spoken to my brother in law in Western Australia (he is almost an Aussie after 35 years)
He has worked on Kit Homes and says they are very good quality. However he would recommend having a house built as the cost of a kit home would be about the same if you didnt build it yourself.

Last year he had a house built ( 3 bed 2 bathroom very nice place)
He contacted all local builders for plans and prices. Most builders have plans for various constructions.
The one he went for was a 4x2, but he asked for modifications to make is 3 larger bedrooms.
The total cost for the house was around $100,000 this included garage, block paved drive, kitchen appliances, floor coverings, all ready to move in.
The only extra expence was fence, shed and decking for BBQ area.
The quality of the house was very good, if you can find a piece of land at a reasonable cost the value would increase dramaticaly on completion.

Tony C

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I spent a day going around the show homes in North Perth while we were out there 18 months ago. I was surprised at what you can get for $100,000. What I would say though is that it was a bit like buying off a supermarket shelf, with the basic price buying a specific spec and the price varies if you want tiles on the roof rather than sheet steel, brick veneer rather than render, floor tiles tended to be extra, appliances were extra........

A cousin of my wife in Perth needed a bigger house than she could really afford, so she bought a big standard house type but didn't get it all 'fitted out'. She will gradually finish off the rest of the house as and when she can afford to. This struck me as a sensible way to do it.

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True.

Just remember you can totally change/move the inside walls of the structure from an "off the plan" house. Some builders allow you 5 changes for free, and then they will charge you a extra for above that figure.

I am having my home built - almost finished now, move in early next month. We spent about a year designing the home - so many changes. It was an off the plan home - you wouldn't recognise it from the original plan now.

A few things which we have done ( far too many to list, but here's a few examples)
made the garage bigger - from a two car garage to little under a three car , built out under the eaves and took some space from the laundry area.

made the kitchen and living areas bigger (totally changed the kitchen units)
bathrooms larger adding g a large spa bath to the ensuite - (extra cost $600) believe it or not for this one - cheap or what.
Made dwarf walls and cut out walls



If you can use CAD - get the plan you want off the builder and play around with it - move the walls, add things inside if you want - you can totally change an off the plan home, and they will build it for you at a cost (depending on how many changes)


On the other hand if you do want to build for less than $100 thou - you can (ours was a lot more than this - so I'll list my friends home) . My mates next door neighbour has a just built a smallish, but nice three bed , steel frame, for $80 thou - but this was without floor coverings etc. which you can do yourself for around 4 to 5 grand.

My mate's 4 bed house - move in (everything included) was $120 minus landscaping, driveway. He only made two small changes to the house (deleting rumpus and moving the laundry room)


The removable dwellings (ie kit homes) are not as cheap as they sound. I don't know if you saw it on tv a couple months back if you are in Aus (can't remember the name of the programme), but there was a young couple who did the kit home way - turned out it cost them a little over a $100 k time they moved in . They are not worth it. I'm living in an area which has a high number of these homes, they are slowly removing, pulling them down to be replaced with brick homes. A lot of councils will not let you erect one these days in newly released estates, I know where my mate has built in Morayfield (which is an outer suburb of Brisbane - an acreage plot too) - it's a no - no. The area where I'm building , I'm not quite sure - but they're all brick there anyway.

You can also build double cavity brick , or breeze block homes too if you want, there's a new estate near to where I'm renting, there are three double cavity brick homes going up and 2 breeze block homes. (non display homes - private homes)


cheers:)

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Must have been some dog box , it cost us $200k plus block price to build an average home here 3 years ago.
You get a lower end home for that price , rule of thumb is you need to spend upto double the price of block on the home.


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last year (gone up a bit since last year) some houses herei n Brisbane (4 bed) started as low as 89 thou-(advertised) from most major construction firms - but you need to add at least 20 thou on top of that (connections etc, sewage - plus the little things) so that would be 109 grand for a "basic" 4 bed home. When I mean basic this would not include floor tiles to the house (only wet areas - ie bathroom, laundry) ., but would include fittings such as kitchen units, bathroom etc.

Anyway - you can get a decentish house for a little over a 100 grand - my mates is 4 bed, two bath etc etc, roomy and his cost him around 120 grand. His neighbours 80 grand (but that was a shell - no interior fittings) - his acregage plot was- 65,000 a year ago (before boom) , now worth about 90 thou (plots next to him are selling for this now)

depends of course - you get what you pay for. Wish mine was that cheap... money... it comes and it goes - costing us a bl**dy fortune! we just spent just over a grand this weekend in Bunnings for just the ceiling fans and down lights. It's the little things which tend to add up.

Anyway you can get a 4 bed house for around a 100 thou if you look around, depends on what you want of course.


cheers

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90% of homes in Perth are double brick unlike QLD so costs are higher a good block count on $200K plus and a home worth building will cost at lest the same with all costs included.




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Rubbish, the avergage price for homes in BRISBANE is $253,000 (house and land) as quoted in paper a couple of weeks ago.

I just don't believe the average house in Perth is twice what it is in Brisbane. Maybe if your talking about beachside or very large block, but def not the typical average house in a nice suburb.

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Look QLD is not Perth and you have never built here go back to sleep, the highest cost of a Perth home being built is $25 million .
We build with double brick here not woodern shacks, people are camping out weeks here to get good blocks at big prices.
Get a life then come back and tell us about it sometime young man.

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If you offered me that for mine - I'd laugh at you, or punch you for wasting my time, as quoted by "me" :D , for that amount of money you'd be on a 300 block crammed into an estate, or in Brisbane North,, or inland, or a fibro. My mates in Morayfield, and as you know that area is the cheaper end of the market for Brisbane - is worth about $ 290 (he's had it valued) (he paid $120 to build it plus land costs = $185,000)

Where I'm renting - Redcliffe - you'd get a three bed small brick 15/20 year old house for that $253,000, or a fibro, and again Redcliffe is cheaper than say Manly and other suburbs closer to the city.

You'd be pushed finding a decent (second - hand) home for that amount of money - the cheapest way is finding a plot and building your own.

I spent two years deciding whether to build or buy, it came down to building - it works out cheaper and get more for your money- than buying an old home, then you can sell it to some dopey B*stard:)

cheers:)

P.s new estate near me where I'm renting - building and land average price is $310,000. (Redcliffe)

It depends on where in Brisbane - people are moving further out as land has shot up in price.

But if you want to live in such places like Ipswich, morayfield etc - yes you can build a nice house for that (land included)

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I dare say but average means you add up the prices paid for all the houses sold in a particular month and devide by the number sold. This gives you the average price.

For Brisbane that is $253,000 for May 2003. There are loads of Houses for between $200-300,000 if you bother to look. These won't be riverside or top suburbs, just average.

If you don't believe me try Here

And pick Carina as the suburb about 10kms from the CBD and you get hundreds.

As for PB if he's been conned into paying 200,000 by a builder for a typical 3 bedrooom house he's been had big time.

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The house was not even middle range you have not lived yet young man , and I quoted full price to finish off our 4 bedroom home that we sold at a profit.



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Do not mislead people please.

It depends on what you want. There are things to be considered. My mates house is cheap. cheap, cheap - an acre - four bedroom brick only $185 to build and land - but it's Morayfield for christs sake!

I lived in Brisabne southside for three years - near to the gateway - land was expensive that end

Don't mislead people. Brisbane is booming. You can either compromise and buy a small plot (I mean small - 300) or go further out

It all depends where you want to live and what you want.

P.s Paul 200 thou is bog all when it comes to building have you any idea? wood blinds alone for my house is costing 5 grand.

Please do not mislead people - there is a difference between advertised costs and real costs, there's also a difference between land costs.

Yes you can build for $100k (excluding land) - read my first post - it depends on many factors.

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OK so $400,000 is not close to the avergage house price in Perth so what is $600,000 or is it $800,000. If it is it's in your head.

It's more like $300,000 or less, I'm not talking about 4 or 5 bedroom houses I'm talking about the average for Perth, and the average for Brisbane is $253,000.

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Average house prices mean sweet sod all , you know bugger all as you have never built or bought a home here little boy.




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first page when I put in Carina - your point being?? fibro, old homes many of them and 600m is small for land - ok, but small.

where is the $200 thou plus - do not mislead. The cheapest way is building your own


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Agreed I don't know a great deal about building but I know the value of houses that are already built which is what I buy.

And you can buy very nice houses for between $200-300,000 agreed you won't get an acre of land or a swimming pool, but you will get a 3 bedroom fullly fitted house. A house close to mine built at the same time (2 years ago) sold for $285,000 only 2 months ago. 3 double bedrooms, 2 bathrooms (1 ensuite), double garage, security screens on all windows, blinds on all windows, etc. Within 12Kms of the CBD.

I cannot argue quality as I cannot prove anything but neither can you, but as far as I'm concerned it's a quality build and the link I provided gives hundreds of houses around me within the range I quoted.

So don't try and tell people they need to spend half a million to get a typcal home in Brisbane.

Just because you build a house dosn't mean it's better quality, just that you can design it to your particular requirements. As far as I'm concerned their is nothing wrong with buying a house someone else has lived in.

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Building a house in WA requires earthworks can cost beween $3k-$60k not included in most home prices go to a pre -start and the dollars are emptyed out of your pockets , forget painting , landscaping and carpets , lighting , insulation ECT.
You know little and talk big , you get what you pay for.



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Anothers nice is anothers Nightmare.

But come on - you know fully well as I do - for that amount , it's either a small plot in a built up estate, or an old fibro house, or and on a main road

Like I say it depends on what you want.

You can build some lovely houses - I'm not disputing this. hence my first reply saying you can build for 100 thou. of course you can!

we are mixing things now - with land costs.

It's not the building of the house which people should worry about too much, it's up to you on that one - you can build as cheap, or expensive as you want, but it's the land prices in Brisbane, which still is one of the cheapest cities in Aus.


cheers

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It does help if you put in the correct price range and I admitted you wouldn't get acres of land. How many people living in English cities have large gardens?

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I have a 6x4 sq metre courtyard here is that big compared to a terrace in the UK.




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Far as I'm concerned building is like trying to fill a black hole with money. Let the builder take the risk or the developer and buy complete houses then you know what you are getting.

And if you are a cash buyer (no house to sell) you can get really sweet deals. Just my experience.

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Did that with present house but then you are tied to location that suits the builder , buying a block gives choice.
The advertised home price is well short of what you will pay if you think that the nice show home is what you will get for the price dream on.


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I do not understand your point - for a start all those prices you can build for the same price (and get more of a house and land), no 2 ... a 3 bed is considered small - no 3 the land are all under 700 m2 which is small in anyone terms.

No 4 look at them - they are old, look at the area.
You need to look at the homes for yourself - real estate agents will boast up a hovel to be a palace - they are on commision - that's their job! - you need to look at for yourself.

sorry I'm not from an inner English city - many of us are not.


The list you have just pasted - sorry , I would not be seen dead in the homes you have listed, so why steer people to that?

People need to decide and look for themselves when they get here.

cheers:)

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90% of homes sold in Australia have been lived in by other people, why restrict yourself to new homes.

Don't tell me you don't buy second hand. :) :)

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No we looked at making cash and building in the right spot gives a good return as does being able to get into the right area.



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Land on Sunshine Coast from scanning Paper.

600sm block $210,000 suburb in Mountain Creek

Sloping block (allow big building costs) Buderim 720sm $175,000.

Water front (canal) $650,000

Buderim distant ocean views but walk to village offers over $400,000.

Nambour, large block $89,000

House and Land Packages (4 bed, 2 bath etc seem to be between $385,000 and High 400,s but these are just Suburban housing estates.)

Move out a bit, bargains in Palmwoods, new house and Land from $330,000.

In Qld the prices of houses was almost stagnant for a decade, houses were so cheap 2 years ago it was laughable. All they have really done is catch up to more realistic levels. Unfortunately heaps of new building codes and laws are not going to make them get any cheaper, nor is developers who put land up every stage. Square for square I would think they were still cheap compared to the UK tho?

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When I come to sell I hope it is to someone like you.

Cheers:)


P.S
There's one born every minute.

It is cheaper to build, and sell it some dick ed who thinks they are getting a bargain

I give up!

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A 3 bed house is the typical house out here for most people. Familes are getting smaller and just like in the UK 3 bedrooms is the most common.

Why would people buy 4 or 5 bedroom houses when they only have one or two kids, and house prices are so expensive anyway. The houses themselves are generally bigger than the same type of houses the UK.

The only time you would consider buying a larger house than you need is if you can buy without a mortgage as it's a good investment but not if you've got to pay a whopping mortgage.

And whats wrong with Carina it's a typical Brisbane suburb (no don't live their but I live close to it).

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From the amount of trouble you are having with your builder I think I'll give it a miss.

Like I said I only buy quality well built houses, not jerry built shacks even if they are 4 bedrooms.:) :)

I bought my land almost two years ago - wait for it ..... 45 thou! (gawd we were lucky!) a huge plot, plus a reserve at my back garden - where does my garden end and stop??? seriously beautiful plot of land, away from neighbours - bought it pivately. There was one of those fluffy B*stards up our tree the other day (Koala) - sparky phoned his Mrs up to bring the kids around to have a look at it ! (and he's Australian) - sad very sad - they got all excited - I'm thinking yes, b*gger off my land! :D

But anyway , land has shot up greatly here - want to buy mine? quiet, backing onto a reserve/bush - triple the price now- without house - house is extra.

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Paul I'm having trouble because I correct the builder and labourer - most Aussie don't, they wear blinkers - and look at surfaces

Thanks for enquiring - there are no mistakes in my house due to us pulling them on shoddy workmanship - they get away with nothing - they hate us :D - but at the end of the day I have a good home- hate us all you like. I'm paying their wages - do it my way or none at all.

cheers;)

P.S seriously watch them if your building - and pull them up, I've even had them ripping down the bath tiles - not good enough sorry! - I pull them up on everything, which most people don't - open your mouth! It's your money

PPS stop bull sh*ting and get back to your Unit... sad . let people decide for themselves when they get here

2 years ago was marvellous. It was just soooo obvious it had to go up. Our best one was a house metres from the Beach at Alexandra Headland, for $185,000. Land there is now going for Tender at 500,000 plus a block. Went to Mcdonalds one night, I was going nuts at the old man for wanting Junk food, then we saw this house, smacko at the beach, ended up buying it there and then! I thank Mcdonalds every time I drive past he he:)

hindsight eh?

I can thank my hubby for ours - I didn't want to buy, less stay here ... eek.

But it's turning out good - all I want is the pound to crash now , and Wales beach front house here I come with cash to spare

Could Sell up now (not finished yet) , just minor things like touch ups.

Thank gawd we bought - hubby was right for a change! I honestly did not want to buy here, I gave into his nagging.

cheers

Remarkable eh??

Here we have the 3 of the biggest Anti-Aus wingers going on about making a profit in the Oz house price boom, but somehow you'll never see them pointing this out as a positive about living in Aus. A cash-rich immigrant could come out here buy a reasonable house (not a mansion), invest some more in property and make a profit whilst the boom continues.

Just goes to show that this crowd matches the following joke...

Aussie 1 : "Here mate, 'ow can you tell when a plane of pommie immigrants has just landed at the airport?"
Aussie 2 : "Dunno"
Aussie 1 : "Cos when the pilot switches off the engines, the whining continues..."


MM

I started this thread with FACTS about having a house built rather than a kit home.

The thread appears to have deviated to fiction about the cost of Land and House prices.

I for one know the facts, if anyone wants to believe the fiction you are welcome.

Tony C

You can not make money on houses in the UK , you missed the point that you still have work and find a job that pays a living wage here , not easy.
Lower pound and homes rising here at a faster rate than the UK is going to make it easy for new refugees not.


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You have never built here dream on , nice weather right now at your ranch.

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" You can not make money on houses in the UK "


I just had to comment on this one. :D

We bought our house here in the UK just under three years ago.
We had it valued by two agents and it's now on the market for more than triple it's original value.

So, sorry you can make a profit on housing in the UK.

And.......
as far as the "Lower pound"….. with an exchange rate of 2.51 dollars to the pound,
I'll be smiling all the way to the bank!

Irony is lost on you Scots with your brains removed ( North East donkeys) read Mad Macs post first , houses here are still climbing by the day and the exchange rate is going the other way , good luck may you live in hope.


High cost of land pushes newcomers to city fringe

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...220542351.html

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