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I`ve just been reading through some prev threads about how much it has cost people to go through the stages to migrate.
Am I write in saying it`s cost some when useing an agent about £2-£3,000 from start to finish? If that is the case then I have got the wrong agent! :mad: We are waiting to here from the TRA and it has probably cost us about £2,000 :o so far! They`ve got all our paper work so I don`t suppose that we will be able to change and try another agent + would we have to start all over again? Any advise? Sue gutted 2 :mad: |
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Hi sue i know ive already sent you a pm but i thought i would send this thread to let other people know,we havent used an agent,we downloaded the documents off the internet ourselves, or should i say gary did,the TRA cost us £200 and the visa application cost £755,and just a couple of calls to the TRA in oz to answer some questions we didnt quite understand, i know this doesnt include the medicals and police checks but i m sure we ve still saved a lot of money.Hope this is of some help.Tracey.
Originally Posted by Sue2
I`ve just been reading through some prev threads about how much it has cost people to go through the stages to migrate.
Am I write in saying it`s cost some when useing an agent about £2-£3,000 from start to finish? If that is the case then I have got the wrong agent! :mad: We are waiting to here from the TRA and it has probably cost us about £2,000 :o so far! They`ve got all our paper work so I don`t suppose that we will be able to change and try another agent + would we have to start all over again? Any advise? Sue gutted 2 :mad: |
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Originally Posted by Sue2
I`ve just been reading through some prev threads about how much it has cost people to go through the stages to migrate.
Am I write in saying it`s cost some when useing an agent about £2-£3,000 from start to finish? If that is the case then I have got the wrong agent! :mad: We are waiting to here from the TRA and it has probably cost us about £2,000 :o so far! They`ve got all our paper work so I don`t suppose that we will be able to change and try another agent + would we have to start all over again? Any advise? Sue gutted 2 :mad: I have sent you a P.M. |
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Sue,
Don't be too hard on yourself.....when you get here you'll understand why Best wishes, Steve Bowes and The "Melbourne Helping hand"melhelp service |
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There's no 'right' or 'wrong' way to apply.
Whatever works I say. There's something to be said for paying an agent to take on the workload for you - if you were to value your own time in terms of GBP I bet it would cost you more than the agency fees to do your own TRA and applications.... Stress levels alone when you go 'DIY' are worth paying to avoid! I (sucessfully) did it the DIY route but this does not mean I am better off for it. At the end of the day it's the result that matters - not the route taken to get there. It will be worth it. - a price worth paying to make your adventure possible. Good luck. olive :) |
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Sue,
Have a look at the letter setting out the terms of your agent's appointment ... that should answer any questions you have about fees, termination of appointment, etc ... Best regards.
Originally Posted by Sue2
I`ve just been reading through some prev threads about how much it has cost people to go through the stages to migrate.
Am I write in saying it`s cost some when useing an agent about £2-£3,000 from start to finish? If that is the case then I have got the wrong agent! :mad: We are waiting to here from the TRA and it has probably cost us about £2,000 :o so far! They`ve got all our paper work so I don`t suppose that we will be able to change and try another agent + would we have to start all over again? Any advise? Sue gutted 2 :mad: |
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Hi everyone and thanks for replies, I don`t feel as bad :o
Anyway I`ll have a look through agreement today. We did go through an agent to avoid the stress and yes it has done that + yes your right it will be all worth while in the end. "It will teach me to do my re search from now on" Sue Skint 2 :) |
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Originally Posted by Sue2
Hi everyone and thanks for replies, I don`t feel as bad :o
Anyway I`ll have a look through agreement today. We did go through an agent to avoid the stress and yes it has done that + yes your right it will be all worth while in the end. "It will teach me to do my re search from now on" Sue Skint 2 :) Every case is different, in some cases the skills application alone costs more than that. If you used a Registered Migration Agent and you did not receive a Statement of Services before making a payment, then you are entitled to recover your payment. Before starting work a Registered Migration Agent must give you an estimate of costs and if you ask for it must provide you with a copy of the Migration Agents Code of Conduct, which you can download from www.themara.com.au I suggest you download the Code and read it. Best wishes Westly Rusell Registered Migration Agent |
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Originally Posted by PINOYAU
Shop around is usually sound advice. A single individual can expect to pay about $5500 all up for a skilled visa.
Every case is different, in some cases the skills application alone costs more than that. If you used a Registered Migration Agent and you did not receive a Statement of Services before making a payment, then you are entitled to recover your payment. Before starting work a Registered Migration Agent must give you an estimate of costs and if you ask for it must provide you with a copy of the Migration Agents Code of Conduct, which you can download from www.themara.com.au I suggest you download the Code and read it. Best wishes Westly Rusell Registered Migration Agent The agents that we are with are registered and have given a guide of how much things will cost. What worried me that friends of ours have used the same agent in straight forward application and there final bill was £9.000+? Just seems alot of money from what we both have been first told :confused: Thanks again Sue2 |
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Originally Posted by Sue2
Hi thanks for info will have another look through bits from agent.
The agents that we are with are registered and have given a guide of how much things will cost. What worried me that friends of ours have used the same agent in straight forward application and there final bill was £9.000+? Just seems alot of money from what we both have been first told :confused: Thanks again Sue2 Thats shocking that is.....ours was $3500 and he worked his arse off for that |
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I think ours was about £3000, but having said that it was a straight forward application, as I am a nurse. Probably could have done it ourselves only couldn't face the stress of it. I hope your application goes smoothly.
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Originally Posted by biggy
£9000 ffs did that include flights
Thats shocking that is.....ours was $3500 and he worked his arse off for that I`m going out with them this Saturday I`ll find out the total amount, but I am sure thats is just for the agent! us being with the same one we`re pooing our pants :eek: Sue2 :) |
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Originally Posted by KatieStar
I think ours was about £3000, but having said that it was a straight forward application, as I am a nurse. Probably could have done it ourselves only couldn't face the stress of it. I hope your application goes smoothly.
From Katie Hi Katie Thanks for post :) going to have a good chat with our agent and others as soon as we here from the tra "should be any day now" I see your heading for Brissie what part are you thinking of? |
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Originally Posted by Sue2
Hi thanks for info will have another look through bits from agent.
The agents that we are with are registered and have given a guide of how much things will cost. What worried me that friends of ours have used the same agent in straight forward application and there final bill was £9.000+? Just seems alot of money from what we both have been first told :confused: Thanks again Sue2 By the way this reference comes from someone who now knows how not to do it! We paid loads of dosh to a 'no visa no fee' bunch of tossers - we paid about 2K pounds before we knew we had no chance getting in because of medical reasons (partially deaf child). Give Alan a ring...it might be worth a swop over before you go further? PS ....no fees paid to Alan...just picked up bloody good advice from this site from him! |
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Originally Posted by Sandra
9k pounds is so far over it is silly .....give Alan Collett on this forum a ring (check out his web site) and I am sure he will set you right for your personal circumstances/needs etc. For a second reference I also recommend George Lombard.
By the way this reference comes from someone who now knows how not to do it! We paid loads of dosh to a 'no visa no fee' bunch of tossers - we paid about 2K pounds before we knew we had no chance getting in because of medical reasons (partially deaf child). Give Alan a ring...it might be worth a swop over before you go further? PS ....no fees paid to Alan...just picked up bloody good advice from this site from him! Thanks Sandra and everyone for help and advise :) :) Will call Alan and check out sites! thanks Sue2 Puts my mind at rest. |
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Originally Posted by Sandra
9k pounds is so far over it is silly .....give Alan Collett on this forum a ring (check out his web site) and I am sure he will set you right for your personal circumstances/needs etc. For a second reference I also recommend George Lombard.
By the way this reference comes from someone who now knows how not to do it! We paid loads of dosh to a 'no visa no fee' bunch of tossers - we paid about 2K pounds before we knew we had no chance getting in because of medical reasons (partially deaf child). Give Alan a ring...it might be worth a swop over before you go further? PS ....no fees paid to Alan...just picked up bloody good advice from this site from him! Hi Sandra Tried to send you a pm but you have no more room left! Just wondered did you have any problems getting your paper work back from your first agent? |
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Originally Posted by Sandra
9k pounds is so far over it is silly .....give Alan Collett on this forum a ring (check out his web site) and I am sure he will set you right for your personal circumstances/needs etc. For a second reference I also recommend George Lombard.
By the way this reference comes from someone who now knows how not to do it! We paid loads of dosh to a 'no visa no fee' bunch of tossers - we paid about 2K pounds before we knew we had no chance getting in because of medical reasons (partially deaf child). Give Alan a ring...it might be worth a swop over before you go further? PS ....no fees paid to Alan...just picked up bloody good advice from this site from him! Partial deafness is not defined and deafness does not necessarily mean that an indivdual will not meet the public interest (health) criterion. There is no public health risk involved. In law it comes down to a question of whether the individual is likey to use scarce resources, and the projected cost of medical treatment. If it can be shown that the child will not need special education services and that the cost of likely medical treatment will not be over a certain limit (as defined in the regulations) you might have a fighting chance. The law on health issues is complex, and applicants are not well advised to hope for the best if there is a health issue. If you had been properly advised, you would have had the child's medical examination conducted as the first step. In health matters the opinion of a Medical Officer of the Commonwealth is conclusive and MUST be accepted by DIMIA. If you had no prospects of making a case on the medical issue at least you would have kept your costs to a minimum. Westly Russell Migration Agent |
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Originally Posted by PINOYAU
Partial deafness is not defined and deafness does not necessarily mean that an indivdual will not meet the public interest (health) criterion. There is no public health risk involved. In law it comes down to a question of whether the individual is likey to use scarce resources, and the projected cost of medical treatment. If it can be shown that the child will not need special education services and that the cost of likely medical treatment will not be over a certain limit (as defined in the regulations) you might have a fighting chance. The law on health issues is complex, and applicants are not well advised to hope for the best if there is a health issue. If you had been properly advised, you would have had the child's medical examination conducted as the first step. In health matters the opinion of a Medical Officer of the Commonwealth is conclusive and MUST be accepted by DIMIA. If you had no prospects of making a case on the medical issue at least you would have kept your costs to a minimum.
Westly Russell Migration Agent I have one question - I did not think it was possible to have a medical assessment done before making the full application and everything that entails so any pre medical assessment would have been a best guess as to what the MOC would decide. As it was we dumped the first agent after spending the money and came here on temp 457 through work and then appealled after that was refused for our daughter....just pure luck the appeal for the 457 resulted in approval for a 136 - go figure? So I am here in Aus with my family as PRs for the last 18 months after a very hectic and traumatic first year. Cheers |
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Originally Posted by Sandra
I TOTALLY AGREE with your concise summary here of the issues and would of loved this sort of advice before shelling out a fortune and a half.
I have one question - I did not think it was possible to have a medical assessment done before making the full application and everything that entails so any pre medical assessment would have been a best guess as to what the MOC would decide. As it was we dumped the first agent after spending the money and came here on temp 457 through work and then appealled after that was refused for our daughter....just pure luck the appeal for the 457 resulted in approval for a 136 - go figure? So I am here in Aus with my family as PRs for the last 18 months after a very hectic and traumatic first year. Cheers It is possible that if you had prepared substantial submissions in the first place that you would not have had to appeal. If Health Assessment Services were not inclined to render a decision in the absence of a visa application, it would have been open to you to have applied for (for example) a $65 visitor visa. I do not have enough information to comment further on your case. You got here, well done Westly Russell |
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Originally Posted by Sue2
Hi everyone and thanks for replies, I don`t feel as bad :o
Anyway I`ll have a look through agreement today. We did go through an agent to avoid the stress and yes it has done that + yes your right it will be all worth while in the end. "It will teach me to do my re search from now on" Sue Skint 2 :) We didn't use an agent and there was no stress. Ok there was a wait and I had to email DIMIA once for our file number so we could change the application after we got married and I had a new passport. It was really plain sailing. Maybe we had an uncomplicated application who knows. But we were granted in 6 months and we have now been here 6 months. I do realise that some people have harder cases and need an agent to help but it really is easy and I did not find it stressful. Only the waiting. Jo |
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To put the nurses application with an agent in perspective:
1 family of 4, with the principal applicant being a nurse will cost us $3000 all told. This includes 3 x 2 police checks and 4 medicals. So if you paid gbp3000 then I would consider the difference in hiring an agent would be roughly equivalent to the prevailing exchange rate. ie we paid aud3000 as compared to gbp3000. I'd say the form filling was a pain, but we got great help from DIMIA over the phone on exactly what to do and how to apply. If you have a straight forward application I say DIY, but if there are likely to be issues or you are borderline go with the agent. |
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I was charged £975 by my agent in Manchester, that was for 2 adults and one child. I had to pay for certified copies of the relevant certificates and the usual police checks and meds etc etc.
I was quoted £4000+ by the first agency i contacted and decided to look about, to which i think i got a better deal. Keep your chin up and think about what you will be getting when you finally get to oz. Regards Gary |
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Originally Posted by Sue2
Hi everyone and thanks for replies, I don`t feel as bad :o
Anyway I`ll have a look through agreement today. We did go through an agent to avoid the stress and yes it has done that + yes your right it will be all worth while in the end. "It will teach me to do my re search from now on" Sue Skint 2 :) We also used an agent and it has been worth every penny. I did my own trade assessment as mine was straight forward, I could provide them with everything they needed. Our agent for main application cost £1,395. It has saved me being stressed out by forms and Andrew. We did think about going it alone but things got complicated as Andrew had been married before and has children. Look at it this way... If you use an agent there is a much higher chance that all your forms will go staright through first time, going it alone there is always the possibility that you may have missed something. Don't feel down, the money is spent now and your visa should be winging its way to you very soon. All the best. Sarah |
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Originally Posted by teach
Hi Sue,
We also used an agent and it has been worth every penny. I did my own trade assessment as mine was straight forward, I could provide them with everything they needed. Our agent for main application cost £1,395. It has saved me being stressed out by forms and Andrew. We did think about going it alone but things got complicated as Andrew had been married before and has children. Look at it this way... If you use an agent there is a much higher chance that all your forms will go staright through first <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=time&v=55">time</a>, going it alone there is always the possibility that you may have missed something. Don't feel down, the <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=money&v=55">money</a> is spent now and your <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=visa&v=55">visa</a> should be winging its way to you very soon. All the best. Sarah would you recommend your agent and is there any chance you could pass on the name and number by pm please. i have been in contact with a couple had quotes of £3,300 which we are willing to pay, mainly because of the same reasons as you, ex's and children involved! i was also thinking of doing the skills assessment myself, does it take about 4 months to go through? debbie |
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Thanks everyone for support + info :)
I`m going to double check our agents papers then change. I`m going to have a shop around some agents + also look a doing a DIY? You`ve ALL been a great help :) |
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Originally Posted by debbiemc
hi sarah,
would you recommend your agent and is there any chance you could pass on the name and number by pm please. i have been in contact with a couple had quotes of £3,300 which we are willing to pay, mainly because of the same reasons as you, ex's and children involved! i was also thinking of doing the skills assessment myself, does it take about 4 months to go through? debbie I will pm you now with all info. Sarah |
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Hi again Sue
In answer to your question where abouts in Brissie we don't know yet, just be near to a hospital or on transport links to one. I have my fingers crossed for you, I hope you hear back from the TRA soon. I hate waiting for things myself. :) Were you thinking of settling in Brissie yourself? From katie |
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Originally Posted by KatieStar
Hi again Sue
In answer to your question where abouts in Brissie we don't know yet, just be near to a hospital or on transport links to one. I have my fingers crossed for you, I hope you hear back from the TRA soon. I hate waiting for things myself. :) Were you thinking of settling in Brissie yourself? From katie Hi Katie Not too sure yet will be going out in November for 3 weeks to have a good look around. Bayside has come up alot on forum so will start off there :) can`t wait!! |
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Our agent fees were £1800. (£900 up front and the final £900 when the final application was submitted. On top of that we had TRA fees , £400 ish I think, plus medical fees of £180 (£60 each for the 3 of us).
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Originally Posted by debbiemc
hi sarah,
would you recommend your agent and is there any chance you could pass on the name and number by pm please. i have been in contact with a couple had quotes of £3,300 which we are willing to pay, mainly because of the same reasons as you, ex's and children involved! i was also thinking of doing the skills assessment myself, does it take about 4 months to go through? debbie :) Hi Debbie, Alot of people on the forum seem to recommend `Go Matilda`. I am going through an agent mainly to cut the stress out of things. I must admit it did help having an agent when I was going through my TRA assesment. I am applying on an Indepdent Skilled 136 and the agent advised me to get as much detail and information as possible. Some things I would never of thought of if I had done it DIY. With working and having kids driving me up the wall I opted for the agent to save hassle, mind you I have had stress through it all. I had my first assesment declined and paniced, I contacted the TRA, lovely guy there told me exactly what the problem was, I sorted it ( with an appeal form and more money!) and eventually had it passed! Phew I have now sent the application form away for DIMIA, so its fingers crossed now. I am sure if you search the threads for agents you will find some useful information. Good luck Deb |
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Originally Posted by BAY
Our agent fees were £1800. (£900 up front and the final £900 when the final application was submitted. On top of that we had TRA fees , £400 ish I think, plus medical fees of £180 (£60 each for the 3 of us).
£9000 is taking the p. -------------#-------------- PS Our agent was Ian Harrop and Associates. Couldn't fault them. Very good. |
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Whoops! Thought this thread was about gutting. (Fish.)
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Originally Posted by Don
Only for the fish threads. :)
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Originally Posted by deba34
:) Hi Debbie,
Alot of <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=people&v=55">people</a> on the forum seem to recommend `Go Matilda`. I am going through an agent mainly to cut the <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=stress&v=55">stress</a> out of things. I must admit it did help having an agent when I was going through my TRA assesment. I am applying on an Indepdent Skilled 136 and the agent advised me to get as much detail and information as possible. Some things I would never of thought of if I had done it DIY. With working and having kids driving me up the wall I opted for the agent to save hassle, mind you I have had <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=stress&v=55">stress</a> through it all. I had my first assesment declined and paniced, I contacted the TRA, lovely guy there told me exactly what the problem was, I sorted it ( with an appeal form and more money!) and eventually had it passed! Phew I have now sent the application form away for DIMIA, so its fingers crossed now. I am sure if you <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=search&v=55">search</a> the threads for agents you will find some useful information. Good luck Deb |
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Originally Posted by debbiemc
thamks for that info deb, got a lot to go on now. i know i might sound a bit thick, but what is TRA? i have searched high and low on FAQ's and other threads and can't find a dickie bird!
Westly Russell |
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Originally Posted by PINOYAU
TRADES RECOGNITION AUSTRALIA, the designated skills assessing body for most trades
Westly Russell debbie |
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Originally Posted by debbiemc
thamks for that info deb, got a lot to go on now. i know i might sound a bit thick, but what is TRA? i have searched high and low on FAQ's and other threads and can't find a dickie bird!
Hi Debbie, On the DIMIA web site there is a list of names and addresses for who assesses each trade. Have tried to find the exact bit for you but can't see it. My trade was assessed by NOOSR, there are a whole host of others. Good luck. Sarah |
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Originally Posted by teach
Hi Debbie,
On the DIMIA <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=web&v=55">web</a> site there is a list of names and addresses for who assesses each trade. Have tried to find the exact bit for you but can't see it. My trade was assessed by NOOSR, there are a whole <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=host&v=55">host</a> of others. Good luck. Sarah thanks debbie |
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