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billingham Jul 22nd 2011 11:50 pm

Good Luck Cadel
 
Still think he has left himself too much to do in the time trial, he will have to dig very deep for this one. Could be his last chance though, getting a little old, has come second, twice.

billingham Jul 23rd 2011 3:21 am

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well what the hell do I know! Awesome.

Hebe Jul 23rd 2011 10:46 am

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Can't wait for tonights coverage - a nanna nap this afternoon so that I can stay up. Awsome :thumbup:

DownUnderPaddy Jul 23rd 2011 12:58 pm

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Originally Posted by billingham (Post 9513931)
well what the hell do I know! Awesome.

He played a blinder for sure. Inspiring stuff. Reminded me of Stephen Roche in '87. Watching Cadel cross the finish line tonight will be an emotional moment indeed.

spalen Jul 23rd 2011 1:58 pm

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Originally Posted by DownUnderPaddy (Post 9514679)
He played a blinder for sure. Inspiring stuff. Reminded me of Stephen Roche in '87. Watching Cadel cross the finish line tonight will be an emotional moment indeed.

Awesome performance - stage 19 is where he won this and deserved to. The time trial was formality for him ... Amazing grit he really deserved this year.

Gjn200 Jul 23rd 2011 6:42 pm

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He's a prick. Not coming to the TDU because 'it would upset his TDF preparations' is about as un-Australian as you can get.

billingham Jul 23rd 2011 6:54 pm

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Originally Posted by Gjn200 (Post 9514994)
He's a prick. Not coming to the TDU because 'it would upset his TDF preparations' is about as un-Australian as you can get.

The first Australian to win the tour, and possibly, according to a chat show on TV this morning, the most significant achievement by an Australian athlete ever. There is even talk of making the day a public holiday. Yeah, what a prick.

DownUnderPaddy Jul 23rd 2011 9:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Gjn200 (Post 9514994)
He's a prick. Not coming to the TDU because 'it would upset his TDF preparations'.....

Clearly, he knew what he was doing !

Budawang Jul 23rd 2011 11:37 pm

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Apparently, he's a really nice guy too. Humble, a hard worker and is involved in charitable causes. Bloody well deserved win I say.

billingham Jul 24th 2011 4:07 am

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What a fantastic tour. Well done Cadel, bloody well done.

bradfordlad Jul 24th 2011 4:38 am

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Originally Posted by Gjn200 (Post 9514994)
He's a prick. Not coming to the TDU because 'it would upset his TDF preparations' is about as un-Australian as you can get.

Must be a 'Strange Town' where he comes from....do you think he has blisters on his feet? Have you only been here for 3 weeks now? Have you got the a-z guide book or are you a space man from those UFO's?
Nice and warm thou!
Look in the mirror.....
....break it down.....break it down....shake it out....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb7lo...yer_detailpage

Well done Cadel and truely a champion among champions....some of us mere mortals on the couch watching need to take a serious look at ourselves...

renth Jul 24th 2011 10:04 am

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Whatever drugs he's on, I want some too.

chris955 Jul 24th 2011 10:16 am

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Good luck to him but lets not lose track of the fact that it's a pushbike race. He is NOT a hero, he is someone who rides a bike for lots of money. A public holiday :D Says it all about the ridiculous emphasis we put on sport in this country, it's crazy.

northernbird Jul 24th 2011 1:06 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9516454)
Good luck to him but lets not lose track of the fact that it's a pushbike race. He is NOT a hero, he is someone who rides a bike for lots of money. A public holiday :D Says it all about the ridiculous emphasis we put on sport in this country, it's crazy.

Says the person who created a thread to congratulate Lewis Hamilton on his F1 win! If it had been a British person who won you would have been all over it like a bloody rash.

chris955 Jul 24th 2011 1:55 pm

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Exactly, did you read the thread ? I'm guessing you didn't. I said he is just a fast car driver, not a hero, he won a race, end of story.


Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 9516642)
Says the person who created a thread to congratulate Lewis Hamilton on his F1 win! If it had been a British person who won you would have been all over it like a bloody rash.


Amazulu Jul 24th 2011 2:14 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9516682)
Exactly, did you read the thread ? I'm guessing you didn't. I said he is just a fast car driver, not a hero, he won a race, end of story.

A big difference for me is that Evans comes across as a very nice bloke, whilst Hamilton is an arrogant little ******

chris955 Jul 24th 2011 2:26 pm

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Of course, one is Australian and the other English. ;)


Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9516696)
A big difference for me is that Evans comes across as a very nice bloke, whilst Hamilton is an arrogant little ******


Amazulu Jul 24th 2011 2:38 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9516706)
Of course, one is Australian and the other English. ;)

Not at all - that's all in your head I'm afraid

There are plenty of arrogant Aussie sportsmen, and nice guy Pommy sportsmen

chris955 Jul 24th 2011 2:43 pm

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It's just the disgusting name you called him I guess, a word I have never ever used and I find abhorrent.

Amazulu Jul 24th 2011 2:53 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9516729)
It's just the disgusting name you called him I guess, a word I have never ever used and I find abhorrent.

Are you talking to me? :confused:

chris955 Jul 24th 2011 3:15 pm

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Well I guess so, unless someone hacked your account.

'whilst Hamilton is an arrogant little ******'

Amazulu Jul 24th 2011 3:18 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9516761)
Well I guess so, unless someone hacked your account.

'whilst Hamilton is an arrogant little ******'

Why didn't you quote me then?

It's hard to follow a conversation without quoting.

chris955 Jul 24th 2011 3:19 pm

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I'll try and dumb down ;)

Amazulu Jul 24th 2011 3:22 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9516766)
I'll try and dumb down ;)

you're not trying hard enough

billingham Jul 24th 2011 6:54 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9516454)
Good luck to him but lets not lose track of the fact that it's a pushbike race. He is NOT a hero, he is someone who rides a bike for lots of money. A public holiday :D Says it all about the ridiculous emphasis we put on sport in this country, it's crazy.

Well I certainly did not say he is a hero - but tell you what, his performance, especially on the last few stages of this year's Tour, was absolutely heroic. Average salaries for professional cyclists in the peloton range from $30k to $100k, only the very top ones (Evans / Cavendish / Contador) make over a million. It has taken Cadel Evans 20 years of hard graft to reach that elevated position. He has made it to the top through hard work, with no drug assistance. I would place cyclists closer to athletes in their motivation, not footballers and F1 drivers.

I would say that is a pretty good role model for the Australian youth, and should be celebrated. There are so many negative influences these days, we need to grasp hold of his , and others, examples to show the youngewr generation what can be achieved through hard work and dedication. A long serving police officer / teacher etc just will not cut it - unfortunately.

moneypenny20 Jul 24th 2011 7:42 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9516454)
Good luck to him but lets not lose track of the fact that it's a pushbike race. He is NOT a hero, he is someone who rides a bike for lots of money. A public holiday :D Says it all about the ridiculous emphasis we put on sport in this country, it's crazy.

A lighthearted comment. You take things way too seriously. Similar comments are often made in the UK media when a British athlete does something very impressive. People find their heros in all sorts of unlikely people, it doesn't mean they are heroic in the definitive description. To a young person starting out in cycling competitions he would be their hero, to someone who enjoys watching someone with exceptional talent at their given career, he would be 'up there'.

chris955 Jul 24th 2011 7:53 pm

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OMG, I've never had anyone say I take things too seriously before :D

papilon Jul 24th 2011 9:25 pm

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Credit where credit is due and Cadel played his cards well this year and avoided any dramas and put himself in a good position to win. But going back over the years Cadel has often come across as a bit of a whinger and blamed all and sundry for not winning the tour. Andy Schlek was very magnanimous in defeat and had no excuses and I would have loved to have seen him win after really going for it and attacking from 60ks out on the last 2 days in the mountain stages. But he will win and probably next year.

chris955 Jul 24th 2011 9:56 pm

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Absolutely, he won and good on him for that but when I hear him being referred to as a hero (NOT ON HERE) it just irks me when real heroes are often ignored.

billingham Jul 24th 2011 10:14 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9517290)
Absolutely, he won and good on him for that but when I hear him being referred to as a hero (NOT ON HERE) it just irks me when real heroes are often ignored.

There are lots of definitions of hero:

"any person, esp. a man, admired for qualities or achievements and regarded as an ideal or model"

That fits perfectly, but to me a real hero needs to have their priorities in the realms of humanity, not personal gain. Probably would have been easier to say 'I agree" !

dave99 Jul 25th 2011 3:41 am

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I love how this guy has won for Australia and is being said to be a great Australian athelete when he doesnt even live there anymore!.

He lives in Switzerland but pops back for a month or so to visit australia once a year. :rofl:

AlliF Jul 25th 2011 9:58 am

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Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 9517987)
I love how this guy has won for Australia and is being said to be a great Australian athelete when he doesnt even live there anymore!.

He lives in Switzerland but pops back for a month or so to visit australia once a year. :rofl:

:confused:So? Im pretty sure he was born here and is still an Australian citizen?
I have lived away from the UK (and haven't visited) for 5 years - by your logic does that mean I am no longer British then?:blink:

dave99 Jul 25th 2011 2:38 pm

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I just find it amusing that hes shown wearing australia on his gear and hes there going ra ra AUSTRALIA, but then he heads home to switzerland as he doesnt actually want to live in the place hes been promoting so much :rofl:

moneypenny20 Jul 25th 2011 2:40 pm

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Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 9519183)
I just find it amusing that hes shown wearing australia on his gear and hes there going ra ra AUSTRALIA, but then he heads home to switzerland as he doesnt actually want to live in the place hes been promoting so much :rofl:

Still don't get your point. Many UK athletes don't live in the UK, they live in Spain or US for training purposes, they still compete for the UK or England or whatever. I tell people England is a fab place, am I not allowed to now I don't live there? :confused:

DownUnderPaddy Jul 25th 2011 8:55 pm

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Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 9517987)
I love how this guy has won for Australia and is being said to be a great Australian athelete when he doesnt even live there anymore!.

He lives in Switzerland but pops back for a month or so to visit australia once a year. :rofl:

Doh...he's a professional cyclist. You tend to live where the main work is (that would be Europe by the way). Doesn't mean you have to stop referring to what you may consider 'home' as home though.

I guess this observation holds true for quite a few expats here. i.e. They may live in Aus for various reasons, but many of them will always consider their country of origin as 'home'.

DownUnderPaddy Jul 25th 2011 10:29 pm

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oh, this is so appropriate !!!!
No offence intended to all the MAMILs out there :-)

http://resources1.news.com.au/images...ark-knight.jpg

RenShen Jul 27th 2011 11:00 pm

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I found it very amusing when a lady on "Today" suggested that as he was a sportsman, his achievement should be kept on the back page. Also, he was not a hero as he had not saved any lives and was being well paid for his achievement, which was essentially for his own needs, not particularly to serve a country like, say, the armed forces. Karl Stefanovic nearly choked on his own tongue in amazement and proceeded to lambast her.

I totally agree with her. In a week when there have been some horrendous news stories from around the world and the financial crisis in America, I found it distasteful the amount of coverage Cadel got in comparison.

billingham Jul 27th 2011 11:44 pm

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Originally Posted by RenShen (Post 9524213)
I found it very amusing when a lady on "Today" suggested that as he was a sportsman, his achievement should be kept on the back page. Also, he was not a hero as he had not saved any lives and was being well paid for his achievement, which was essentially for his own needs, not particularly to serve a country like, say, the armed forces. Karl Stefanovic nearly choked on his own tongue in amazement and proceeded to lambast her.

I totally agree with her. In a week when there have been some horrendous news stories from around the world and the financial crisis in America, I found it distasteful the amount of coverage Cadel got in comparison.

Well I actually found it a breath of fresh air from all the doom and gloom. There will always be horrendous news stories - should they have waited to hold the event until there was a break in the blackness? We can display a range of emotions you know - just because I felt joy at what Cadel Evans achieved, does not mean that I had no empathy left for other terrible events.

dave99 Jul 30th 2011 6:05 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9519186)
Still don't get your point. Many UK athletes don't live in the UK, they live in Spain or US for training purposes, they still compete for the UK or England or whatever. I tell people England is a fab place, am I not allowed to now I don't live there? :confused:

Funny things dont tend to have points and I guess different people find different things funny :rofl:

themerlin Jul 30th 2011 10:15 pm

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Went out with a group this weekend, plenty of old men in lycra, bloody fit though, hope I can keep that pace up when I get to that age :)


Originally Posted by DownUnderPaddy (Post 9519769)
oh, this is so appropriate !!!!
No offence intended to all the MAMILs out there :-)
http://resources1.news.com.au/images...ark-knight.jpg



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