Going back to Aus
Aug 1st 2006 | 8:51 pm
#16
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Re: Going back to Aus
Great post and that pretty much sums out how we feel too.
Aug 1st 2006 | 9:30 pm
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Re: Going back to Aus
great post . some people are making points that oz has its problems too.the answer to that is yes but not on the same scale as the u.k.as most of us on this forum has noticed they dont just open the doors to everyone.We all need to have something to offer.and yes they too let in cheep labour.But they monitor it .not like the u.k were immigrants have the right to just decided they will go to the u.k for work and next week there here .Take blackpool now renamed little Poland,dont get me wrong they are good at there jobs.But the u.k is just too small to cope, the bubble will go up one day.So yes the answer is the u.k has changed and not for the better.
Aug 1st 2006 | 10:16 pm
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by fidge
great post i agree totally
Everytime we speak to rellies in the UK, its always doom and gloom, We are so happy we came to Australia, our 16yrs here has been really happy
Sheila and Fred
Aug 1st 2006 | 10:27 pm
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Re: Going back to Aus
I wondered where abouts in the UK you were from to make you feel this way? I lived in central London and in the part I lived between 1999 and 2004 it was cosmopolitan, educated and rather expensive! In the flat we lived in central London before (near Tottenham Court Road) there were indeed racial problem between youngsters on a nearby housing estate who seemed to think they could attribute all of their misfortune to white folk being racist without realising they were racist themselves. We were pleased to move. But even in the heart of London I never felt "over run" with immigrants. In Australia we are surrounded by immigrants. Let's face it if you are white you are hardly a native Australian. In London residents from overseas, were usually hard working and pleasant. Many were from the old Soviet bloc countries. Our child care help was Brazillian. Not only were our children loved and looked after but they even learned how to dance a mean salsa. We still keep in touch. I also feel sad and a bit afraid when I read of people referring to "political correctness" Usually they are referring to things like the recognition of gay couples or it being illegal to discriminate against someone on the grounds of race or calling someone a wog. In other words anything that is progressive and aims at enhancing respect for all people is sneered at. How sad. How cynical. Personally I like what I see happening in the UK and I am not keen on racism and intolerance which often passes for being "British" or "Pro Australian". So if you, like me come and live in this beautiful is country - even if it is somewhat backward socially, remember you are an immigrant and the real Australians are black fellas. Before anyone accuses me of being "leftist" or asks the usual, "why did you come to Australia if the UK is so great" my answer is simple: sunshine and an English speaking population as I am hopeless at languages. I guess we can lable anyone we don not happen to agree with "leftist" or "facists" but it does not really allow for serious though and consideration. What ever you decided good luck and I hope you will not be let down (too much).
Originally Posted by Okletsgo
I left Australia in 1988 to travel around Europe and the UK and ended up staying although this was not my original intention !. After eighteen years and now with a young family, I have decided its time to return to Australia for a number of reasons.
I hate anyone who whinges on about all the negatives of a country and therefore I will not do the same here, but... Life in the UK has changed a lot over these years, and whilst I love the character and lifestyle here I feel that the country is being sold out to extreme political correctness, mass immigration (mostly illegal, but who's counting) and penalties targeted at anyone capable of paying! It really feels like we are funding a changing landscape.
There are no nicer people than the English, generous, compassionate and humourous!! Sadly their views seem less and less important and the number of people I talk to sound so despondent about the future here. 5 million people emmigrating...why??
I loved living here, fantastic neighbours, beautiful countryside and everything on the doorstep. Now, I look at neighbourhoods terrorised by teenage rebellion, mass migration on a scale that even the government cannot quantify and an infrastructure that cannot cope under the strain.
Australia is very different from the UK, but the people do share a lot in common, hence I believe that is why it is such a popular destination. The impression I get from reading the messages on here is that whilst the life is totally different, everyone is excited about the challenge of a new life in Australia. I believe that ultimately the UK are losing a lot of very talented people and Australia will gain from those people moving there with a committment to achieving a better life. I am so impressed by the support and consideration that everyone shows to each other on this forum, something I think is quite impressive. Good luck to everyone making the move, I am also anxious about how things might have changed since I lived there last but I will continue to read the postings with interest and hope I will not get slated for the comments I made!!
I hate anyone who whinges on about all the negatives of a country and therefore I will not do the same here, but... Life in the UK has changed a lot over these years, and whilst I love the character and lifestyle here I feel that the country is being sold out to extreme political correctness, mass immigration (mostly illegal, but who's counting) and penalties targeted at anyone capable of paying! It really feels like we are funding a changing landscape.
There are no nicer people than the English, generous, compassionate and humourous!! Sadly their views seem less and less important and the number of people I talk to sound so despondent about the future here. 5 million people emmigrating...why??
I loved living here, fantastic neighbours, beautiful countryside and everything on the doorstep. Now, I look at neighbourhoods terrorised by teenage rebellion, mass migration on a scale that even the government cannot quantify and an infrastructure that cannot cope under the strain.
Australia is very different from the UK, but the people do share a lot in common, hence I believe that is why it is such a popular destination. The impression I get from reading the messages on here is that whilst the life is totally different, everyone is excited about the challenge of a new life in Australia. I believe that ultimately the UK are losing a lot of very talented people and Australia will gain from those people moving there with a committment to achieving a better life. I am so impressed by the support and consideration that everyone shows to each other on this forum, something I think is quite impressive. Good luck to everyone making the move, I am also anxious about how things might have changed since I lived there last but I will continue to read the postings with interest and hope I will not get slated for the comments I made!!
Aug 1st 2006 | 10:32 pm
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by Ian12
I wondered where abouts in the UK you were from to make you feel this way? I lived in central London and in the part I lived between 1999 and 2004 it was cosmopolitan, educated and rather expensive! In the flat we lived in central London before (near Tottenham Court Road) there were indeed racial problem between youngsters on a nearby housing estate who seemed to think they could attribute all of their misfortune to white folk being racist without realising they were racist themselves. We were pleased to move. But even in the heart of London I never felt "over run" with immigrants. In Australia we are surrounded by immigrants. Let's face it if you are white you are hardly a native Australian. In London residents from overseas, were usually hard working and pleasant. Many were from the old Soviet bloc countries. Our child care help was Brazillian. Not only were our children loved and looked after but they even learned how to dance a mean salsa. We still keep in touch. I also feel sad and a bit afraid when I read of people referring to "political correctness" Usually they are referring to things like the recognition of gay couples or it being illegal to discriminate against someone on the grounds of race or calling someone a wog. In other words anything that is progressive and aims at enhancing respect for all people is sneered at. How sad. How cynical. Personally I like what I see happening in the UK and I am not keen on racism and intolerance which often passes for being "British" or "Pro Australian". So if you, like me come and live in this beautiful is country - even if it is somewhat backward socially, remember you are an immigrant and the real Australians are black fellas. Before anyone accuses me of being "leftist" or asks the usual, "why did you come to Australia if the UK is so great" my answer is simple: sunshine and an English speaking population as I am hopeless at languages. I guess we can lable anyone we don not happen to agree with "leftist" or "facists" but it does not really allow for serious though and consideration. What ever you decided good luck and I hope you will not be let down (too much).
Also worth noting (as i have mentioned before), for all those who dont think Aus has many immigrants...
My census forms which i received a few days ago say that 1 in 5 (thats 20% folks) of all people in Aus were born overseas. Thats ALOT of immigrants.
Aug 1st 2006 | 10:49 pm
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Re: Going back to Aus
I arrived in UK Feb 1965. As many of us did at that time, I came over to travel the UK and Europe. I'm flying back on 28 October. Nearly 42 years later
Bloody long holiday! Now joing two of my british born chilldren now living in Brisbane and leaving one in the UK. In the future will be spending summer hols in the UK rather than the other way round.
Bloody long holiday! Now joing two of my british born chilldren now living in Brisbane and leaving one in the UK. In the future will be spending summer hols in the UK rather than the other way round.
Aug 1st 2006 | 11:01 pm
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by Okletsgo
I left Australia in 1988 to travel around Europe and the UK and ended up staying although this was not my original intention !. After eighteen years and now with a young family, I have decided its time to return to Australia for a number of reasons.
I hate anyone who whinges on about all the negatives of a country and therefore I will not do the same here, but... Life in the UK has changed a lot over these years, and whilst I love the character and lifestyle here I feel that the country is being sold out to extreme political correctness, mass immigration (mostly illegal, but who's counting) and penalties targeted at anyone capable of paying! It really feels like we are funding a changing landscape.
There are no nicer people than the English, generous, compassionate and humourous!! Sadly their views seem less and less important and the number of people I talk to sound so despondent about the future here. 5 million people emmigrating...why??
I loved living here, fantastic neighbours, beautiful countryside and everything on the doorstep. Now, I look at neighbourhoods terrorised by teenage rebellion, mass migration on a scale that even the government cannot quantify and an infrastructure that cannot cope under the strain.
Australia is very different from the UK, but the people do share a lot in common, hence I believe that is why it is such a popular destination. The impression I get from reading the messages on here is that whilst the life is totally different, everyone is excited about the challenge of a new life in Australia. I believe that ultimately the UK are losing a lot of very talented people and Australia will gain from those people moving there with a committment to achieving a better life. I am so impressed by the support and consideration that everyone shows to each other on this forum, something I think is quite impressive. Good luck to everyone making the move, I am also anxious about how things might have changed since I lived there last but I will continue to read the postings with interest and hope I will not get slated for the comments I made!!
I hate anyone who whinges on about all the negatives of a country and therefore I will not do the same here, but... Life in the UK has changed a lot over these years, and whilst I love the character and lifestyle here I feel that the country is being sold out to extreme political correctness, mass immigration (mostly illegal, but who's counting) and penalties targeted at anyone capable of paying! It really feels like we are funding a changing landscape.
There are no nicer people than the English, generous, compassionate and humourous!! Sadly their views seem less and less important and the number of people I talk to sound so despondent about the future here. 5 million people emmigrating...why??
I loved living here, fantastic neighbours, beautiful countryside and everything on the doorstep. Now, I look at neighbourhoods terrorised by teenage rebellion, mass migration on a scale that even the government cannot quantify and an infrastructure that cannot cope under the strain.
Australia is very different from the UK, but the people do share a lot in common, hence I believe that is why it is such a popular destination. The impression I get from reading the messages on here is that whilst the life is totally different, everyone is excited about the challenge of a new life in Australia. I believe that ultimately the UK are losing a lot of very talented people and Australia will gain from those people moving there with a committment to achieving a better life. I am so impressed by the support and consideration that everyone shows to each other on this forum, something I think is quite impressive. Good luck to everyone making the move, I am also anxious about how things might have changed since I lived there last but I will continue to read the postings with interest and hope I will not get slated for the comments I made!!
Scotty.
Aug 1st 2006 | 11:01 pm
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by paka
great post . some people are making points that oz has its problems too.the answer to that is yes but not on the same scale as the u.k.as most of us on this forum has noticed they dont just open the doors to everyone.We all need to have something to offer.and yes they too let in cheep labour.But they monitor it .not like the u.k were immigrants have the right to just decided they will go to the u.k for work and next week there here .Take blackpool now renamed little Poland,dont get me wrong they are good at there jobs.But the u.k is just too small to cope, the bubble will go up one day.So yes the answer is the u.k has changed and not for the better.
Aug 2nd 2006 | 5:11 am
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by Amazulu
At least it's only 20% fall this time! So nothing new then really apart from the purple suits as we've still got plenty of mullets around.
Sadly I arrived here with quite an impresive mullet! ( Wasn't stopped at immigration ) And will be returning with a lot less hair and greyer!
We are planning to move to Samford, Qld so welcome any thoughts from people living there! I grew up in Geelong, Vic but decided to return to Qld for a number of reasons. House prices being one of them, Brisbane itself the other.
Putting important issues to one side....like houses, jobs, schools etc,
Is it possible to find a decent Curry and a pint of bitter in Brisbane??
Aug 2nd 2006 | 6:01 am
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by Okletsgo
Thank you for all the replies...
Sadly I arrived here with quite an impresive mullet! ( Wasn't stopped at immigration ) And will be returning with a lot less hair and greyer!
We are planning to move to Samford, Qld so welcome any thoughts from people living there! I grew up in Geelong, Vic but decided to return to Qld for a number of reasons. House prices being one of them, Brisbane itself the other.
Putting important issues to one side....like houses, jobs, schools etc,
Is it possible to find a decent Curry and a pint of bitter in Brisbane??
Sadly I arrived here with quite an impresive mullet! ( Wasn't stopped at immigration ) And will be returning with a lot less hair and greyer!
We are planning to move to Samford, Qld so welcome any thoughts from people living there! I grew up in Geelong, Vic but decided to return to Qld for a number of reasons. House prices being one of them, Brisbane itself the other.
Putting important issues to one side....like houses, jobs, schools etc,
Is it possible to find a decent Curry and a pint of bitter in Brisbane??
we much prefer Geelong to Brisbane! To be fair we only visited for a few days earlier this year, but for us there was too much congestion. We loved Maroochydore, Mooloolaba (sp?) caloundra etc. but now we are back in the UK we miss popping to Geelong from Colac for a bit of shopping.
Good luck.
Aug 2nd 2006 | 6:07 am
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by Okletsgo
I left Australia in 1988 to travel around Europe and the UK and ended up staying although this was not my original intention !. After eighteen years and now with a young family, I have decided its time to return to Australia for a number of reasons.
I hate anyone who whinges on about all the negatives of a country and therefore I will not do the same here, but... Life in the UK has changed a lot over these years, and whilst I love the character and lifestyle here I feel that the country is being sold out to extreme political correctness, mass immigration (mostly illegal, but who's counting) and penalties targeted at anyone capable of paying! It really feels like we are funding a changing landscape.
There are no nicer people than the English, generous, compassionate and humourous!! Sadly their views seem less and less important and the number of people I talk to sound so despondent about the future here. 5 million people emmigrating...why??
I loved living here, fantastic neighbours, beautiful countryside and everything on the doorstep. Now, I look at neighbourhoods terrorised by teenage rebellion, mass migration on a scale that even the government cannot quantify and an infrastructure that cannot cope under the strain.
Australia is very different from the UK, but the people do share a lot in common, hence I believe that is why it is such a popular destination. The impression I get from reading the messages on here is that whilst the life is totally different, everyone is excited about the challenge of a new life in Australia. I believe that ultimately the UK are losing a lot of very talented people and Australia will gain from those people moving there with a committment to achieving a better life. I am so impressed by the support and consideration that everyone shows to each other on this forum, something I think is quite impressive. Good luck to everyone making the move, I am also anxious about how things might have changed since I lived there last but I will continue to read the postings with interest and hope I will not get slated for the comments I made!!
I hate anyone who whinges on about all the negatives of a country and therefore I will not do the same here, but... Life in the UK has changed a lot over these years, and whilst I love the character and lifestyle here I feel that the country is being sold out to extreme political correctness, mass immigration (mostly illegal, but who's counting) and penalties targeted at anyone capable of paying! It really feels like we are funding a changing landscape.
There are no nicer people than the English, generous, compassionate and humourous!! Sadly their views seem less and less important and the number of people I talk to sound so despondent about the future here. 5 million people emmigrating...why??
I loved living here, fantastic neighbours, beautiful countryside and everything on the doorstep. Now, I look at neighbourhoods terrorised by teenage rebellion, mass migration on a scale that even the government cannot quantify and an infrastructure that cannot cope under the strain.
Australia is very different from the UK, but the people do share a lot in common, hence I believe that is why it is such a popular destination. The impression I get from reading the messages on here is that whilst the life is totally different, everyone is excited about the challenge of a new life in Australia. I believe that ultimately the UK are losing a lot of very talented people and Australia will gain from those people moving there with a committment to achieving a better life. I am so impressed by the support and consideration that everyone shows to each other on this forum, something I think is quite impressive. Good luck to everyone making the move, I am also anxious about how things might have changed since I lived there last but I will continue to read the postings with interest and hope I will not get slated for the comments I made!!
Aug 2nd 2006 | 6:14 am
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by Okletsgo
I left Australia in 1988 to travel around Europe and the UK and ended up staying although this was not my original intention !. After eighteen years and now with a young family, I have decided its time to return to Australia for a number of reasons.
I hate anyone who whinges on about all the negatives of a country and therefore I will not do the same here, but... Life in the UK has changed a lot over these years, and whilst I love the character and lifestyle here I feel that the country is being sold out to extreme political correctness, mass immigration (mostly illegal, but who's counting) and penalties targeted at anyone capable of paying! It really feels like we are funding a changing landscape.
There are no nicer people than the English, generous, compassionate and humourous!! Sadly their views seem less and less important and the number of people I talk to sound so despondent about the future here. 5 million people emmigrating...why??
I loved living here, fantastic neighbours, beautiful countryside and everything on the doorstep. Now, I look at neighbourhoods terrorised by teenage rebellion, mass migration on a scale that even the government cannot quantify and an infrastructure that cannot cope under the strain.
Australia is very different from the UK, but the people do share a lot in common, hence I believe that is why it is such a popular destination. The impression I get from reading the messages on here is that whilst the life is totally different, everyone is excited about the challenge of a new life in Australia. I believe that ultimately the UK are losing a lot of very talented people and Australia will gain from those people moving there with a committment to achieving a better life. I am so impressed by the support and consideration that everyone shows to each other on this forum, something I think is quite impressive. Good luck to everyone making the move, I am also anxious about how things might have changed since I lived there last but I will continue to read the postings with interest and hope I will not get slated for the comments I made!!
I hate anyone who whinges on about all the negatives of a country and therefore I will not do the same here, but... Life in the UK has changed a lot over these years, and whilst I love the character and lifestyle here I feel that the country is being sold out to extreme political correctness, mass immigration (mostly illegal, but who's counting) and penalties targeted at anyone capable of paying! It really feels like we are funding a changing landscape.
There are no nicer people than the English, generous, compassionate and humourous!! Sadly their views seem less and less important and the number of people I talk to sound so despondent about the future here. 5 million people emmigrating...why??
I loved living here, fantastic neighbours, beautiful countryside and everything on the doorstep. Now, I look at neighbourhoods terrorised by teenage rebellion, mass migration on a scale that even the government cannot quantify and an infrastructure that cannot cope under the strain.
Australia is very different from the UK, but the people do share a lot in common, hence I believe that is why it is such a popular destination. The impression I get from reading the messages on here is that whilst the life is totally different, everyone is excited about the challenge of a new life in Australia. I believe that ultimately the UK are losing a lot of very talented people and Australia will gain from those people moving there with a committment to achieving a better life. I am so impressed by the support and consideration that everyone shows to each other on this forum, something I think is quite impressive. Good luck to everyone making the move, I am also anxious about how things might have changed since I lived there last but I will continue to read the postings with interest and hope I will not get slated for the comments I made!!
Aug 2nd 2006 | 6:14 am
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by banjo
we much prefer Geelong to Brisbane! To be fair we only visited for a few days earlier this year, but for us there was too much congestion. We loved Maroochydore, Mooloolaba (sp?) caloundra etc. but now we are back in the UK we miss popping to Geelong from Colac for a bit of shopping.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Aug 2nd 2006 | 8:06 am
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by Okletsgo
I am still a Cats supporter...and loved being close to Torquay and Queenscliff and is not far from Melbourne which was good too. So was not easy decision, just hope its the right one! Why did you come back??
JAJ....please can you go and work for them so at least they will have one person there who actually knows what they're talking about.When we were making the plans we weren't too concerned about coming back thinking it would be great to be surrounded by familiar people and places. The trouble is so much has changed in just 3 years.....or maybe we changed. The pace of life over here is just too hectic for us now, we struggle to keep up. Things were very laid back in Colac as you can probably imagine. Also, here in Swindon the children just seem to grow up so quickly....we loved that in our small town in Australia the children were still allowed and encouraged to enjoy childhood.
The UK and Europe has so much to offer in terms of culture and history but for me Australia wins hands down in offering us the sort of lifestyle that is conducive to raising a happy and healthy family.
yeah.....Go Cats!
Aug 2nd 2006 | 8:26 am
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Re: Going back to Aus
Originally Posted by banjo
I'm originally from South Africa, although have spent most of my life in the UK. Never got around to applying for citizenship and when I did (from Aus) we fell foul of the residence requirement. So, we're back for as short a time as possible to get my British citizenship just incase we ever had to come back for some reason. Getting any sense out of the Home Office is impossible though so we could be here as long as 3 years. JAJ....please can you go and work for them so at least they will have one person there who actually knows what they're talking about.
When we were making the plans we weren't too concerned about coming back thinking it would be great to be surrounded by familiar people and places. The trouble is so much has changed in just 3 years.....or maybe we changed. The pace of life over here is just too hectic for us now, we struggle to keep up. Things were very laid back in Colac as you can probably imagine. Also, here in Swindon the children just seem to grow up so quickly....we loved that in our small town in Australia the children were still allowed and encouraged to enjoy childhood.
The UK and Europe has so much to offer in terms of culture and history but for me Australia wins hands down in offering us the sort of lifestyle that is conducive to raising a happy and healthy family.
yeah.....Go Cats!
JAJ....please can you go and work for them so at least they will have one person there who actually knows what they're talking about.When we were making the plans we weren't too concerned about coming back thinking it would be great to be surrounded by familiar people and places. The trouble is so much has changed in just 3 years.....or maybe we changed. The pace of life over here is just too hectic for us now, we struggle to keep up. Things were very laid back in Colac as you can probably imagine. Also, here in Swindon the children just seem to grow up so quickly....we loved that in our small town in Australia the children were still allowed and encouraged to enjoy childhood.
The UK and Europe has so much to offer in terms of culture and history but for me Australia wins hands down in offering us the sort of lifestyle that is conducive to raising a happy and healthy family.
yeah.....Go Cats!
