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snowbunny Jul 11th 2005 4:55 am

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by lionheart
On the 12th the protestant marching bands have parades playing pipes whistles, drums etc. to traditional music which mostly celebrates the Protestants victory, superiority etc. much to the chagrin of their Catholic neighbors. Historically, there has been trouble between the two sides in the build up to celebrations for obvious reasons.

Ah, yes, this is the controversial parade then.

Lucky me, Becks and the Proddys celebrating the same day.

Again not taking religious sides but lording it over the neighbours over a battle fought 300 years ago seems a bit much.

Lord Lionheart Jul 11th 2005 4:58 am

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by snowbunny
Ah, yes, this is the controversial parade then.

Lucky me, Becks and the Proddys celebrating the same day.

Again not taking religious sides but lording it over the neighbours over a battle fought 300 years ago seems a bit much.

Yes, usually better not to mention it, especially if you have friends from N. Ireland from both denominations. There may be a pregnant pause in the conversation.......... at the very least.

snowbunny Jul 11th 2005 5:00 am

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by lionheart
Yes, usually better not to mention it, especially if you have friends from N. Ireland from both denominations. There may be a pregnant pause in the conversation.......... at the very least.

They just call themselves Celtics. :) and the times when the IRA was active in Belfast, "the days when no one would play a gig here."

Lord Lionheart Jul 11th 2005 5:02 am

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by snowbunny
They just call themselves Celtics. :) and the times when the IRA was active in Belfast, "the days when no one would play a gig here."

They still are active, as are the UDA, they have both just re-focused their efforts to bank robbery, protection rackets and drugs amongst other things.

bridiej Jul 11th 2005 5:07 am

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by snowbunny

Again not taking religious sides but lording it over the neighbours over a battle fought 300 years ago seems a bit much.


I dont know, I love any excuse to "lord it up" over the French! :D

snowbunny Jul 11th 2005 5:18 am

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by lionheart
They still are active, as are the UDA, they have both just re-focused their efforts to bank robbery, protection rackets and drugs amongst other things.

Yes, I agree -- I guess I meant during the bombings. There supposedly was a time when McDonald's wouldn't open a restaurant in two cities -- Beirut and Belfast.

snowbunny Jul 11th 2005 5:18 am

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by bridiej
I dont know, I love any excuse to "lord it up" over the French! :D

Ah but that's different! :D

DollyDaydream Jul 11th 2005 5:53 am

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by bridiej
I LOVE DAVID BECKHAM!

Well, someone has to - bless!! ;)

D D

renth Jul 11th 2005 1:00 pm

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 
There's no place for sectarianism in Australia, if you are a NI protestant, Catholic, Serb, Bosnian, whatever - welcome to Australia but if you are going to bring your "baggage" with you the airport and your flight home is this way....

Scossie Jul 11th 2005 1:48 pm

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by renth
There's no place for sectarianism in Australia, if you are a NI protestant, Catholic, Serb, Bosnian, whatever - welcome to Australia but if you are going to bring your "baggage" with you the airport and your flight home is this way....

Yup Renth...
Refreshing, isn't it?
I've met & became friendly with hundreds of people in my 2 years living in Oz.
No idea what religion or denomination any of them are. I'm not interested.

Makes a change from when I lived in Scotland.

Outdated sad bigoted guff, if you ask me..!!!

As I said in another post in a similar thread....

"What your average Orangeman conveniently forgets, is that Prince William Of Orange's victory at The Battle Of The Boyne in 1690, was totally bankrolled by the incumbent Pope of the time, who was shit scared that if King James of England had won the day, the King of Spain would then hold the balance of power in Europe, leaving him free to invade Italy, & usurp the Papacy!!"

lesleys Jul 11th 2005 4:45 pm

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by Three Legs
Not to mention my birthday...

I will become officially *Middle Aged*...

:(

Happy birthday!

Something about 12th July and IOM? It was my dad's birthday and he lived in Port Erin. His next-door neighbour shared the birthday.

Have a good one

Lesley

bondipom Jul 11th 2005 7:57 pm

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by renth
There's no place for sectarianism in Australia, if you are a NI protestant, Catholic, Serb, Bosnian, whatever - welcome to Australia but if you are going to bring your "baggage" with you the airport and your flight home is this way....

The Croats and Serbs here love having a go at each other and there used to be a strong Catholic Protestant divide driven by politics. The catholics were the poor working class and Ausralia's class system still has remnants of that. The Croats I have known here have all been bashed by Serbs and I am sure it happens the other way.

renth Jul 11th 2005 8:00 pm

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by bondipom
The Croats and Serbs here love having a go at each other and there used to be a strong Catholic Protestant divide driven by politics. The catholics were the poor working class and Ausralia's class system still has remnants of that. The Croats I have known here have all been bashed by Serbs and I am sure it happens the other way.

Sure, you just need to look at soccer in NSW to see the Balkan rivalries. I reckon if they catch any non-citizen taking part in any type of ethnic based violence it should be a jail term followed by a trip to the airport.

bondipom Jul 11th 2005 9:59 pm

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by renth
Sure, you just need to look at soccer in NSW to see the Balkan rivalries. I reckon if they catch any non-citizen taking part in any type of ethnic based violence it should be a jail term followed by a trip to the airport.

Victorian football also had some crowd violence at some games. I believe that Australia currently has the powers to deport criminal non citizens. JAJ maybe able to clarify if they have to be convicted or just suspected of crime. Wasn't there a Brit that was recently convicted and deported? He arrived here as a child of British migrants and he never obtained citizenship. I cannot remember the details. Nothing can be done for the Australian born who carry on the hatred.

JackTheLad Jul 12th 2005 12:30 am

Re: The Glorious Twelfth
 

Originally Posted by renth
There's no place for sectarianism in Australia, if you are a NI protestant, Catholic, Serb, Bosnian, whatever - welcome to Australia but if you are going to bring your "baggage" with you the airport and your flight home is this way....

Ha ha ha http://jm.g.free.fr/smileys/lol.gif . The sectarianism in Australia is as deep, if not deeper, than in the UK.

You should try reading some Victoria state history, start with Ned Kelly(poor catholic boy terrorised by protestant authorities). Or alternatively, go into one of the Irish clubs in Melbourne wearing a Rangers scarf :eek: , and explain to them that sectarianism doesn't exist,

JTL


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