George Best
Nov 24th 2005, 12:28 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by walla1
is he dying too? 
hopefuly!!
Nov 24th 2005, 12:37 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by soapy
aye, two days ago
hes good ill gee him that
hes good ill gee him that
while you're at it ask Gypsy Rose when you can send karma that's actually loaded
Nov 24th 2005, 12:40 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by walla1
while you're at it ask Gypsy Rose when you can send karma that's actually loaded
Nov 24th 2005, 12:45 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by soapy
ive had this little problem for ages now mate. i will get round to asking the mods about it soon. then i can get mrs soapy up the duff again
Nov 24th 2005, 12:53 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by walla1
PMSL!
Nov 24th 2005, 1:00 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by soapy
im off to my kip, fill me in on GB. ill read it in the mornin
Nov 24th 2005, 1:15 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by desperate2go
Its a very special illness. The kind that if you left somebody alone on a desert island with it, and returned after 6 months, They would have made a full recovery with no intervention required
And what pray tell happens to the person once they return from Crusoe Island to a life with alcohol available (24 hours a day now in the UK), and the stresses and strains of 'normal life'? Oversimplistic solutions seldom work!
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Nov 24th 2005, 1:22 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by A dogs life
Isn't it sad that all the best talent, be it sport or academia or acting gets ruined by flaws. George Best (alcoholism), Paul Gascoigne (Pratism), Alan Turing (Depression), Sigmund Freud, or River Phoenix or Jim Morrison
Why do all the geniuses have to fck up their lives so badly that their talent gets wasted, and their contribution to the world stuffed?
(the above list was a random one that sprung to mind in 30 seconds)
Why do all the geniuses have to fck up their lives so badly that their talent gets wasted, and their contribution to the world stuffed?
(the above list was a random one that sprung to mind in 30 seconds)
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Nov 24th 2005, 1:31 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by desperate2go
What screwed up Sigmund Freud?(apart from his mother that is )
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Nov 24th 2005, 1:31 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by OzTennis
Let me guess, you would just force feed those with eating disorders, simple, full recovery?
And what pray tell happens to the person once they return from Crusoe Island to a life with alcohol available (24 hours a day now in the UK), and the stresses and strains of 'normal life'? Oversimplistic solutions seldom work!
OzTennis
And what pray tell happens to the person once they return from Crusoe Island to a life with alcohol available (24 hours a day now in the UK), and the stresses and strains of 'normal life'? Oversimplistic solutions seldom work!
OzTennis
Force feeding someone is an intervention is it not?
I just feel too much emphasis is put on the alcoholism/drug addiction being an ILLNESS. Kind of absolves people from taking some responsibility for their own actions. Ultimately with these 'illnesses', the only cure is to STOP YOURSELF and the buck really does stop there.
I would suggest when they return from their island, they exercise a bit of self control like most have to....maybe it is an illness - called lack of will power and self control.
I am not without my own addictions believe me....but ultimately they are MY problem and I would rather people did not dress it up as an illness. If you have a chronic illness the cure does not normally lie with your self control. That was my point.
And now that smoking is being banned all over the place WHAT ABOUT MY ILLNESS
Where the hell will i go to exhibit my symptoms now 
Nov 24th 2005, 1:33 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by OzTennis
Cancer, 1939, England, forced to live there because of anti-semitism, was in Vienna around the end of the 30's.
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Nov 24th 2005, 1:33 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by desperate2go
I was not trying to be over simplistic. Just stating a fact.
Force feeding someone is an intervention is it not?
I just feel too much emphasis is put on the alcoholism/drug addiction being an ILLNESS. Kind of absolves people from taking some responsibility for their own actions. Ultimately with these 'illnesses', the only cure is to STOP YOURSELF and the buck really does stop there.
I would suggest when they return from their island, they exercise a bit of self control like most have to....maybe it is an illness - called lack of will power and self control.
I am not without my own addictions believe me....but ultimately they are MY problem and I would rather people did not dress it up as an illness. If you have a chronic illness the cure does not normally lie with your self control. That was my point.
And now that smoking is being banned all over the place WHAT ABOUT MY ILLNESS Where the hell will i go to exhibit my symptoms now
Force feeding someone is an intervention is it not?
I just feel too much emphasis is put on the alcoholism/drug addiction being an ILLNESS. Kind of absolves people from taking some responsibility for their own actions. Ultimately with these 'illnesses', the only cure is to STOP YOURSELF and the buck really does stop there.
I would suggest when they return from their island, they exercise a bit of self control like most have to....maybe it is an illness - called lack of will power and self control.
I am not without my own addictions believe me....but ultimately they are MY problem and I would rather people did not dress it up as an illness. If you have a chronic illness the cure does not normally lie with your self control. That was my point.
And now that smoking is being banned all over the place WHAT ABOUT MY ILLNESS
Where the hell will i go to exhibit my symptoms now I do think certain addictive behaviours are illnesses though. How does BE's forum member rank? OzTennis
Nov 24th 2005, 1:36 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by desperate2go
When did cancer become a flaw???
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Nov 24th 2005, 1:38 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by OzTennis
Nah, that's what ended him, didn't say it was a flaw; I don't know how he fitted into the Bestie, Gazza etc mould. I'm more mystified by River Phoenix being a genius??
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actually it was Kurt Cobain mate
Nov 24th 2005, 1:41 am
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Re: George Best
Originally Posted by Rooksie
actually it was Kurt Cobain mate
I thought to myself Best was in most people's all time best ever X1, Gazza and the Doors were pretty good, Alan Turing in no small way enables us to do what we are doing now, but River Phoenix!OzTennis
