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Old Jun 10th 2011 | 8:11 pm
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Did he not have flood insurance? Is fairness making people homeless? Frankly I feel sorry for those who lost their homes, not those with a dodgy investment choice.

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A friend of mine owns an investment house in Ipswich. The water went up over the window sills and made a complete mess. The tenants got their flood allowance of about $4000 and buggered off leaving him to clear up all their old rotten furniture and mattresses. As the landlord he isn't entitled to claim any assistance. The old tenants are now in a new rental with new furniture all paid for by you and me. That doesn't seem fair to me.
 
Old Jun 10th 2011 | 8:57 pm
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Frankly I feel sorry for those who lost their homes, not those with a dodgy investment choice.
Why doesn't that surprise me?
 
Old Jun 10th 2011 | 9:45 pm
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I am surprised at you suggesting wealth distribution to private investment. It is like you have gone pinko.
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Why doesn't that surprise me?
 
Old Jun 10th 2011 | 10:27 pm
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I am surprised at you suggesting wealth distribution to private investment. It is like you have gone pinko.
If it wasn't for the generosity of landlords then the scumbag tenants wouldn't have anywhere to live.
 
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Originally Posted by IvanM
Last event of a similiar nature was 1974. I believe a condition Nick Xenophon wanted for the levy is that QLD gets insurance. QLD Libs wanted to use more of the flood catchment to hold water as standard. What monkeys.

QLD slacked off on the insurance and should be paying a lot more as a result.
Yes but they built a nice big dam after that. The same amount of water as 1974 wouldn't have flooded Brisbane. The last time this much water fell into the catchment was 1893.

I can't find any evidence that insurance would make much difference. If so, NSW and other states would not be busy claiming off the same govt scheme as they have done over recent years to fix their damaged infrastructure...I don't think insurance covers as much as that original beat-up made out?

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Originally Posted by IvanM
Did he not have flood insurance? Is fairness making people homeless? Frankly I feel sorry for those who lost their homes, not those with a dodgy investment choice.
FYI, can't get flood insurance on homes in the flood zones.
 
Old Jun 11th 2011 | 10:39 am
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Landlords are subsidized by taxpayers as it is through negative gearing. Scumbag socialist scroungers the lot Em.

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If it wasn't for the generosity of landlords then the scumbag tenants wouldn't have anywhere to live.
 
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If so, NSW and other states would not be busy claiming off the same govt scheme as they have done over recent years to fix their damaged infrastructure...I don't think insurance covers as much as that original beat-up made out?
They didn't want to lose their no claims bonus. Why bother claiming when you can rely on the largesse of the tax payer to bail you out?
 
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It tells you something about the advisability of buying an investment there and what the planners were up to.
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FYI, can't get flood insurance on homes in the flood zones.
 
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Landlords are subsidized by taxpayers as it is through negative gearing. Scumbag socialist scroungers the lot Em.
Negative gearing is not a subsidy it is a deductible expense. It is typical socialist thinking to view deductibles as a government subsidy when in fact all it does is reduce the amount of tax you pay. If tenants don't like paying rent they should go and buy instead.
 
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Socialist wealth redistribution does not care if the form is a subsidy, deduction or tax rebate. Negative gearing is wealth redistribution. Very pinko.

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Negative gearing is not a subsidy it is a deductible expense. It is typical socialist thinking to view deductibles as a government subsidy when in fact all it does is reduce the amount of tax you pay. If tenants don't like paying rent they should go and buy instead.
 
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Socialist wealth redistribution does not care if the form is a subsidy, deduction or tax rebate. Negative gearing is wealth redistribution. Very pinko.
Socialist wealth redistribution does not even care if the cash cow it sucks from withers and dies leaving everyone poorer. Negative gearing takes this further by providing cheap housing for the poor at the expense of the rich who even after the "tax rebate" still have to subsidise the tenant more and make a loss year after year. Otherwise it would be cheaper to buy.
 
Old Jun 11th 2011 | 12:51 pm
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Sounds pinko to me.

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Socialist wealth redistribution does not even care if the cash cow it sucks from withers and dies leaving everyone poorer. Negative gearing takes this further by providing cheap housing for the poor at the expense of the rich who even after the "tax rebate" still have to subsidise the tenant more and make a loss year after year. Otherwise it would be cheaper to buy.
 
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Originally Posted by renth
They didn't want to lose their no claims bonus. Why bother claiming when you can rely on the largesse of the tax payer to bail you out?
Ok now you're just making stuff up
 
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Originally Posted by IvanM
It tells you something about the advisability of buying an investment there and what the planners were up to.
It does. Unfortunately that percentage (3%?) of houses that flood exist and will always be owned by someone.
 

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