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Old Sep 6th 2006 | 8:42 pm
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we were on a 138 visa but have been let down by wifes brother with sponsership.Contacted agent to be told that takes us down to 115 points unless we put up $100000 bond.I think i may have found the extra 5 points needed to get us to 120 points.I have re-done a points assesment on-line and it asked about job being on demand list and looking at it victoria looks like print machinest in on the list so i think this gives us 5 extra points.We were going to QLD but only due to the fact thats the place wifes brother is so maybe we can apply for 136 visa to vic.Am i right?
 
Old Sep 6th 2006 | 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by jon&kate
we were on a 138 visa but have been let down by wifes brother with sponsership.Contacted agent to be told that takes us down to 115 points unless we put up $100000 bond.I think i may have found the extra 5 points needed to get us to 120 points.I have re-done a points assesment on-line and it asked about job being on demand list and looking at it victoria looks like print machinest in on the list so i think this gives us 5 extra points.We were going to QLD but only due to the fact thats the place wifes brother is so maybe we can apply for 136 visa to vic.Am i right?
Don't forget to tick the box for the bond though. If you are 5 points short, it will put you there, but you don't put up the bond if your points reach 120 without the bond.
 
Old Sep 6th 2006 | 9:05 pm
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Not sure about the question exactly.But doesnt the jobs in demand cover the full of Oz and not just state by state? correct me if i'm wrong.
 
Old Sep 6th 2006 | 9:14 pm
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The Department of Immigration's MODL allows you to claim at least 15 points, but your occupation isn't on that list (I think):
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...-in-demand.htm

If your occupation is on a State Government's Wanted Skills List you can then look at a State Nomination, which would allow you to apply for a Skilled - STNI visa (subclass number 137).

Does this help?



Originally Posted by jon&kate
we were on a 138 visa but have been let down by wifes brother with sponsership.Contacted agent to be told that takes us down to 115 points unless we put up $100000 bond.I think i may have found the extra 5 points needed to get us to 120 points.I have re-done a points assesment on-line and it asked about job being on demand list and looking at it victoria looks like print machinest in on the list so i think this gives us 5 extra points.We were going to QLD but only due to the fact thats the place wifes brother is so maybe we can apply for 136 visa to vic.Am i right?
 
Old Sep 6th 2006 | 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Alan Collett
The Department of Immigration's MODL allows you to claim at least 15 points, but your occupation isn't on that list (I think):
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...-in-demand.htm

If your occupation is on a State Government's Wanted Skills List you can then look at a State Nomination, which would allow you to apply for a Skilled - STNI visa (subclass number 137).

Does this help?
great info allan think im mixing the demand list up with the state one.Due these other visa's mean you have to work in the nominated trade or is the same as the 136 where you can work in any job?
 
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You can work in any occupation, though the expectation is that you would work in the nominated occupation as it has been identified as being in demand in the nominating State.

Best regards.


Originally Posted by jon&kate
great info allan think im mixing the demand list up with the state one.Due these other visa's mean you have to work in the nominated trade or is the same as the 136 where you can work in any job?
 
Old Sep 6th 2006 | 10:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Alan Collett
You can work in any occupation, though the expectation is that you would work in the nominated occupation as it has been identified as being in demand in the nominating State.

Best regards.
I came to Victoria on a 137 (regional) visa, and have to work for 2 years continuously in my chosen trade and stay resident in Vic to secure my PR. There is a bit of leeway in so much that if trade work was initially difficult to find, then any job to help settle would be allowed as long as I then did 2 years within the visa period in my trade.

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I've not heard that before, Kev.

Who required you to give that undertaking, and how was it made known to you?

It can only be a VIC Government requirement, as there are no such provisions or conditions placed on 137 visas by the Department of Immigration. I'd be interested to know the format of the undertaking, and what sanction you believe the VIC Government has if you fail to keep to them (not that I'm encouraging you to do that you understand) ...

Best regards.





Originally Posted by Kevhaze
I came to Victoria on a 137 (regional) visa, and have to work for 2 years continuously in my chosen trade and stay resident in Vic to secure my PR. There is a bit of leeway in so much that if trade work was initially difficult to find, then any job to help settle would be allowed as long as I then did 2 years within the visa period in my trade.

Cheers, Kev
 
Old Sep 7th 2006 | 12:44 am
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Originally Posted by Alan Collett
I've not heard that before, Kev.

Who required you to give that undertaking, and how was it made known to you?

It can only be a VIC Government requirement, as there are no such provisions or conditions placed on 137 visas by the Department of Immigration. I'd be interested to know the format of the undertaking, and what sanction you believe the VIC Government has if you fail to keep to them (not that I'm encouraging you to do that you understand) ...

Best regards.

Very interesting...... I have been through all my e-mails and on the vic gov web site and can find no mention of working in my trade for 2 years. Only living and working in Regional Victoria for 2 years. We did have one e-mail from the Vic Skilled Migration Unit stating that getting any job to start with was better than no job in my trade. Where I, (or my wife) read, or were told that I had to work in my trade for 2 years is a mystery. We may have misinterpreted the requirements at the start of the process. I may e-mail the Vic skilled migration Unit and find out exactly where I stand should I change my job to one other than on my trade. Even my visa approval letter from DIMIA says 'The visas (there are 4 of us) allow all visa holders to work in Australia without any restrictions from this department'

Cheers again, Kev
 
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Very interesting...... I have been through all my e-mails and on the vic gov web site and can find no mention of working in my trade for 2 years. Only living and working in Regional Victoria for 2 years. We did have one e-mail from the Vic Skilled Migration Unit stating that getting any job to start with was better than no job in my trade. Where I, (or my wife) read, or were told that I had to work in my trade for 2 years is a mystery. We may have misinterpreted the requirements at the start of the process. I may e-mail the Vic skilled migration Unit and find out exactly where I stand should I change my job to one other than on my trade. Even my visa approval letter from DIMIA says 'The visas (there are 4 of us) allow all visa holders to work in Australia without any restrictions from this department'

Cheers again, Kev
That's the part im unsure about aswell.If i can find work it's far easier to be doing something rather than nothing and in a way it may be of more benefit to the state that sponsers you and at the end of the day if you contributing to the state it can only be a good thing.
 
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That's the part im unsure about aswell.If i can find work it's far easier to be doing something rather than nothing and in a way it may be of more benefit to the state that sponsers you and at the end of the day if you contributing to the state it can only be a good thing.

I did e-mail the Vic Gov last night and had a reply today. I was pleased to read that I can work in any field I choose, but the preference is that I work in my nominated trade. The only stipulation is that I live and work in Vic for 2 years. So if jobs in your chosen trade are hard to find, then at least you can do something else with no penalty.

Hope this helps, Kev.
 
Old Sep 7th 2006 | 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Kevhaze
I did e-mail the Vic Gov last night and had a reply today. I was pleased to read that I can work in any field I choose, but the preference is that I work in my nominated trade. The only stipulation is that I live and work in Vic for 2 years. So if jobs in your chosen trade are hard to find, then at least you can do something else with no penalty.

Hope this helps, Kev.
CHEERS for that as nit gives a litle scope when getting work agian many thanks
 

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