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Old Apr 11th 2006 | 6:35 am
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My partner and I and 7 year old son are planning to move out to Oz next year.The visa application would be based on the fact that I am a nurse,and so would be made on my behalf.
Would it make any difference that we are not married? ie.would my partner be eligable to be included on my application?

Would be really grateful for any advice.

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Originally Posted by Betty Boop
My partner and I and 7 year old son are planning to move out to Oz next year.The visa application would be based on the fact that I am a nurse,and so would be made on my behalf.
Would it make any difference that we are not married? ie.would my partner be eligable to be included on my application?

Would be really grateful for any advice.

Thanks
Lisa x

Hi Lisa,

He can be included on your application, but you will have to prove your de-facto relationship and would have had to have been together for more than 12 months.

I know this is a personal questions, so no need to answer on here, but is your son your partners. If yes then proving de-facto wouldn't be too hard to do.

If not then you need to be looking at the requirements for proving that your relationship is genuine and ongoing etc. This could be joint bank accounts, bills, invites etc.

Someone with a more in depth knowledge of de-facto will be able to help you a little bit more.

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Old Apr 11th 2006 | 6:42 am
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Hi Lisa,

He can be included on your application, but you will have to prove your de-facto relationship and would have had to have been together for more than 12 months.

I know this is a personal questions, so no need to answer on here, but is your son your partners. If yes then proving de-facto wouldn't be too hard to do.

If not then you need to be looking at the requirements for proving that your relationship is genuine and ongoing etc. This could be joint bank accounts, bills, invites etc.

Someone with a more in depth knowledge of de-facto will be able to help you a little bit more.

Good luck
Thanks for that. Yes it is our son so this makes things a bit easier.
Grateful for your info
 
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Originally Posted by Betty Boop
Thanks for that. Yes it is our son so this makes things a bit easier.
Grateful for your info
hello Lisa, we are just waiting our med and pc requests, hopefully they won't ask about our relationship, although we have four kids we haven't got round to tying the knot but our agent didin't think we would have to prove anything having 4 kids has done that.

I know some couples have to promise to get married within a year of being over in aus but if that happens I'm not bothered infact it wiull be a good excuse.
Don't worry, they need us

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Lisa

I have recently had my PR visa approved and I had to prove de facto relationship with my partner. The info I was given by my agent at the start was pretty daunting, they advised us to write a statutory declaration (one each) explaining how we met, and give an individual perspective of the relationship and how it had developed, in a way it was like writing a diary! We also had certified copies done of a couple of documents that were in joint names like council tax and utility bills as well to prove we lived together as we didn't have a joint account at the time.

I was a bit apprehensive at first but once my agent saw what we had done they were happy with each of our declarations and DIMIA approved our relationship and subsequently our visa.

If you require any further info PM me and I'll gladly share what we did.

Cheers and good luck
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I've just put our application through to our agent. We are a family of 3, son is 4 years old and have been living in a de-facto relationship for 17 years.

I've included copies of:
- joint bank accounts;
- letters sent to us in both our names;
- bills in both our names;
- proof of our residential address + date of moving in (in Holland you can get this at your local council;
- photo's of the 3 of us;
- and of course Joe's birth certificate which states we are his mum and da .

I just made some copies of f.e. 1989, 1993, 1996, etc. etc.

No questions were asked, and our application is lodged with DIMIA.

So, if you have been living together for years and have a 7 year old son this shouldn't be too difficult.

By the way, I didn't provide any statutory declarations and wasn't asked to do so.

Hope this helps,

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Originally Posted by tum
I've just put our application through to our agent. We are a family of 3, son is 4 years old and have been living in a de-facto relationship for 17 years.

I've included copies of:
- joint bank accounts;
- letters sent to us in both our names;
- bills in both our names;
- proof of our residential address + date of moving in (in Holland you can get this at your local council;
- photo's of the 3 of us;
- and of course Joe's birth certificate which states we are his mum and da .

I just made some copies of f.e. 1989, 1993, 1996, etc. etc.

No questions were asked, and our application is lodged with DIMIA.

So, if you have been living together for years and have a 7 year old son this shouldn't be too difficult.

By the way, I didn't provide any statutory declarations and wasn't asked to do so.

Hope this helps,

Miranda
Thanks soooo much all of you, this info is really really helpful
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Hi

We are going de-facto. As already quoted all you need to be able to prove is 12 months of living together and doing things jointly, ie, mortgage, bills, bank accounts, weddings, funerals, christening, etc. We have been together 3 yrs and lived together just shy of 2 yrs and we have had no probs so far. Our application is in and it hasnt been binned so far.

I know they have had some bad feedback on expats but we used Ian Harrop and have been very satisfied so far so it may be worth a call for some re-assurance. (www.ianharrop.co.uk).

Sounds like you wont have a problem but its good to do your homework and you'll feel better.

Good luck and dont give up

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Hi Lisa
All the advice on this thread is really good. Matt came over here on a de-facto spouse visa. We were so worried because we were doing the application on our own that we supplied absolutely everything to them - our application was about 2 inches thick! But his application was accepted within 3 days.
 
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You could always do what we did and get married to make less paperwork!!!I know its not very romantic but there is so much paperwork to sort out we thought if we got married it would be less to sort out. So booked up at registry office and was married a month later. Hey presto only marriage certificate to send instead of another 50 signed photocopies
 
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Hello!!

We are a de-facto family!!! I just hate that word! We have 2 kids 6 &3 and have been together 13 years and have no plans to get married. We have been here in Oz for 4 months now... all the advice above is correct...we had to right a letter stating when and where we met...when we first started living together..etc. There wasn't any problem at all and we don't have any conditions...like we have to get married within 12 mths of being here! On our visa application it was...Richard and 3 dependants!
So don't worry there will be no problem.
 
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Originally Posted by richard-elly
Hello!!

We are a de-facto family!!! I just hate that word! We have 2 kids 6 &3 and have been together 13 years and have no plans to get married. We have been here in Oz for 4 months now... all the advice above is correct...we had to right a letter stating when and where we met...when we first started living together..etc. There wasn't any problem at all and we don't have any conditions...like we have to get married within 12 mths of being here! On our visa application it was...Richard and 3 dependants!
So don't worry there will be no problem.
Thanks all of you, that's really helpful and quite reassuring

Lisa x
 

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