Do Aussie Kids Get Life Too Easy
#16
I can only speak for Perth here, but I find that due to the amount of wealth around this State, kids get things too easy and are generally spoiled. I have seen kids being bought expensive cars once they pass their tests, iphones seem to be common amongst young kids and teenagers, and kids generally have all the latest expensive toys.
I find it hard to set some values for my kids and learn them the value of money, when all around them, their mates seem to get bought very expensive toys. I also find a lot of parents, due either to working away, or as a result of a divorce situation, overspoil their kids due to guilt.
Where is the incentive for kids to do well at school when they know they can leave school and get $120k for driving a truck in the mines, or be a tradie and earn more than those in professional roles. It is no wonder that this state comes up short in the standard of education.
I know the rest of the world are not living like this and can’t help thinking we are living in one big bubble here.
I find it hard to set some values for my kids and learn them the value of money, when all around them, their mates seem to get bought very expensive toys. I also find a lot of parents, due either to working away, or as a result of a divorce situation, overspoil their kids due to guilt.
Where is the incentive for kids to do well at school when they know they can leave school and get $120k for driving a truck in the mines, or be a tradie and earn more than those in professional roles. It is no wonder that this state comes up short in the standard of education.
I know the rest of the world are not living like this and can’t help thinking we are living in one big bubble here.
The rest of the world does live like this, you just choose not to see it.
#17
Don't know if it's still the same in the UK but I do remember tradies being like gold dust because apprenticeships were few and far between and schools were encouraging more and more kids to go to Uni to become a pen pusher of some description. The availability of apprenticeships/traineeships and support thereof here is superb in my opinion.
#20
this is not unique to Australia.
I would assume that its in all developed countries and its a generation thing.
I would assume that its in all developed countries and its a generation thing.
#21
Another oddity is the 'ticket' industry whereby the Aussie nanny state has regulated common sense in order to cash in and create jobs.
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People seem to forget the science, med, maths and engineers university pumps out and instead lump us all together with so called Micky mouse courses (don't particularly agree with that sentiment either).
Engine mechanic (trade based training jobby) or mechanical engineers with years of training is surely a far better comparison?
#24
Not sure I was clear enough in my post, I don think (happy to stand corrected) that any job as a result of a media degree has professional status (there is a strict criteria to be considered a professional). The word professional is both misused and overused in my opinion.
People seem to forget the science, med, maths and engineers university pumps out and instead lump us all together with so called Micky mouse courses (don't particularly agree with that sentiment either).
Engine mechanic (trade based training jobby) or mechanical engineers with years of training is surely a far better comparison?
People seem to forget the science, med, maths and engineers university pumps out and instead lump us all together with so called Micky mouse courses (don't particularly agree with that sentiment either).
Engine mechanic (trade based training jobby) or mechanical engineers with years of training is surely a far better comparison?
Or is it that you think they're both comparable in terms of training/skill levels?
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Education provides you with skills the work place can't and vice versa.
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Not sure I was clear enough in my post, I don think (happy to stand corrected) that any job as a result of a media degree has professional status (there is a strict criteria to be considered a professional). The word professional is both misused and overused in my opinion.People seem to forget the science, med, maths and engineers university pumps out and instead lump us all together with so called Micky mouse courses (don't particularly agree with that sentiment either).
Engine mechanic (trade based training jobby) or mechanical engineers with years of training is surely a far better comparison?
Engine mechanic (trade based training jobby) or mechanical engineers with years of training is surely a far better comparison?
adjective
â–¸relating to work that needs special skills and qualifications
â–¸showing a high level of skill or training
â–¸behaving in an appropriate way at work and doing your job well
â–¸relating to a profession and its rules, standards, and arrangements
â–¸working in a profession
â–¸relating to your work or career
â–¸playing a sport or doing an activity as a job rather than for enjoyment
â–¸played or done as a job rather than for enjoyment
noun
â–¸someone who has special skills and qualifications
â–¸someone who plays a sport or does an activity as a job rather than for enjoyment
â–¸someone whose job is to teach people to play a sport at a club
â–¸someone who has a lot of skill or training
I really can't see anything in there which differentiates the media studies graduate from a qualified plumber, can you?
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The word professional has actually been part of much academic debate and is far more complex than a 'dictionary' definition which isn't the best approach to an argument.
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To answer my own question, yes there has, blimey!!
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Ah, youth. I remember it...very vaguely 
There's a very thin line between confidence and arrogance, isn't there?
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There's a very thin line between confidence and arrogance, isn't there?
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