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The_Wookie Aug 18th 2009 4:07 pm

Differences between London and Perth...
 
...I've noticed in the 18 months I've been living in Perth:
  • Much cleaner
  • Roads are far better
  • Less 'doom and gloom' attitude
  • Lack of over-development on coastal areas
  • Heavenly lack of serious traffic jams
  • More smokers
  • More casual drinking
  • Less responsibility when it comes to drink-driving (so many people do it)
  • Atrocious standard of driving
  • Quality of housing poor (for the most part)
  • Seems archaic in some senses (no late night shopping etc)
  • A definite underlying hint of racism
  • Clothing sizes are very confusing!
  • Books are incredibly expensive
  • Petrol is cheap!
  • Eating out is comparitively cheap
  • A lot more people seem to be overweight
  • Standard of TV/Radio is generally very poor
  • Always haggle a price!
  • Politicians seem quite unprofessional
  • Little or no e-commerce
  • Perth is very isolated
  • Flights out of Australia are pricier than into Australia
  • Rain = idiots spinning up their wheels on their Holden/Ford to look clever and invariably losing control....

Just a few things that immediately sprang to mind, that may help people on their way out. Anyone got any others?

jimbo_d Aug 18th 2009 4:15 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 
London metro population about 14m, Perth metro about 1.5m?


Smoking though, don't agree there, I notice in Oz as a whole far fewer people smoke, statistically somthing like 35% adults in UK smoke compared to 25% here

The_Wookie Aug 18th 2009 4:16 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 
Not sure what you're getting at with the population references?

I think it depends on where in the UK you come from. I'm talking about London, where I certainly saw less people smoking than I do in Perth.

Lord_Farquar Aug 18th 2009 4:25 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by jimbo_d (Post 7855752)
London metro population about 14m, Perth metro about 1.5m?


Haha I thought that as well.

It's like comparing Tokyo with the Greater Bristol area.

jimbo_d Aug 18th 2009 4:25 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by The_Wookie (Post 7855757)
Not sure what you're getting at with the population references?

I think it depends on where in the UK you come from. I'm talking about London, where I certainly saw less people smoking than I do in Perth.

Just saying they're basically chalk and cheese, totally different places. And I lived in London for 7 years too, until it was banned couldn't see in a pub for all the smoke, and you hardly see any teenagers/20 somethings smoking in Perth/Oz, only older people.

Mind you I much prefer the life in Perth to London any day

asprilla Aug 18th 2009 4:28 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by The_Wookie (Post 7855734)
...I've noticed in the 18 months I've been living in Perth:
  • Much cleaner
  • Roads are far better
  • Less 'doom and gloom' attitude
  • Lack of over-development on coastal areas I guess in comparison to London, I would agree... but South east queensland is pretty heavily developed already along most of the coast, particularly the gold coast.
  • Heavenly lack of serious traffic jams
  • More smokers
  • More casual drinking
  • Less responsibility when it comes to drink-driving (so many people do it)
  • Atrocious standard of driving Some drivers are awful, but most are ok... not sure if it is really that different from UK.
  • Quality of housing poor (for the most part) hmm, I think I disagree with this one.. but for certain, some houses are very bad quality.
  • Seems archaic in some senses (no late night shopping etc) Brisbane is a little less behind the times, I reckon... but I can still see where you are coming from.
  • A definite underlying hint of racism
  • Clothing sizes are very confusing!
  • Books are incredibly expensive
  • Petrol is cheap!
  • Eating out is comparitively cheap
  • A lot more people seem to be overweight
  • Standard of TV/Radio is generally very poor
  • Always haggle a price!
  • Politicians seem quite unprofessional
  • Little or no e-commerce There seems to be a fair bit about, but it doesn't seem to offer much in the way of savings.
  • Perth is very isolated Brisbane is slightly less so, as it is closer to other Aus major cities. But it is further isolated from the rest of the world.
  • Flights out of Australia are pricier than into Australia
  • Rain = idiots spinning up their wheels on their Holden/Ford to look clever and invariably losing control....

Just a few things that immediately sprang to mind, that may help people on their way out. Anyone got any others?


Never been to Perth, but lived in Brisbane for 5yrs. The items in Blue, completely agree..... ones in grey, disagree. ones in black, 6 of one half a dozen of the other....

asprilla Aug 18th 2009 4:31 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by jimbo_d (Post 7855785)
Just saying they're basically chalk and cheese, totally different places.


They are both cities, so of course they can be compared.

If the wookie was comparing Perth to e.g. a motorcycle engine, or a tree, then perhaps the old "chalk and cheese" cliche might be valid.

asprilla Aug 18th 2009 4:34 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 7855784)
Haha I thought that as well.

It's like comparing Tokyo with the Greater Bristol area.

Guess what - it's your lucky day today... you are going to learn something.

Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to compare cities that have different populations.

The_Wookie Aug 18th 2009 4:38 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by jimbo_d (Post 7855785)
Just saying they're basically chalk and cheese, totally different places. And I lived in London for 7 years too, until it was banned couldn't see in a pub for all the smoke, and you hardly see any teenagers/20 somethings smoking in Perth/Oz, only older people.

Mind you I much prefer the life in Perth to London any day

Nonsense. Of course I can compare the two. I just have.

They're both major cities, I've lived in both. Not every city has the same population, but does that mean that you cannot make comparisons? What an absurd thing to say.

You may as well write off half the posts on these forums where people compare living in Oz to the UK.

jimbo_d Aug 18th 2009 4:41 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by The_Wookie (Post 7855817)
You may as well write off half the posts on these forums where people compare living in Oz to the UK.

With this website that would be one of the most precious bits of advice to a potential emigre to Oz, especially when researching Perth, the amount of slagging it gets from people who have never lived there

Of course you can compare Perth to London if you want, I too have lived in both, just saying they're so different it's quite hard really to make a comparison. Melbourne to London is much easier as they have a lot more in common

Lord_Farquar Aug 18th 2009 4:43 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by asprilla (Post 7855810)
Guess what - it's your lucky day today... you are going to learn something.

Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to compare cities that have different populations.

It would be more relevant to compare Perth with a city of similar size though.

But thanks for the sarcastic post.

Amazulu Aug 18th 2009 4:47 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 
My contribution:
Pub drinking is cheaper in London than it is in Perth - a lot cheaper.

Lord_Farquar Aug 18th 2009 4:49 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 
Differences I have noticed between Mexico City and Midsomer Norton

1. The traffic isn't as heavy
2. Less people speak Spanish
3. There are no thatched cottages in Mexico City

Grayling Aug 18th 2009 4:49 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 7855841)
My contribution:
Pub drinking is cheaper in London than it is in Perth - a lot cheaper.

...and the beers a lot better.

The_Wookie Aug 18th 2009 4:50 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 
This wasn't meant to be a 'slagging off' anything post. It was meant to be what it says in the title...

Differences that I've noticed between London and Perth since moving here.

I'm guessing a lot of people on here moving to Perth could be from London, so thought that something like this may be of use. It certainly wasn't an attempt to slag off Perth.

Why would I compare London to Melbourne? I've never lived in Melbourne.

Lord_Farquar Aug 18th 2009 4:51 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7855848)
...and the beers a lot better.

What, you don't like Swan lager?

Grayling Aug 18th 2009 4:53 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 
When I lived in Beckenham and Dulwich I did not think they were particularly dirty.....not much 'doom and gloom' either:confused:

asprilla Aug 18th 2009 4:53 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 7855834)

But thanks for the sarcastic post.

I wouldn't normally have bothered, but I've read a fair few of your other posts over the past week or so.

Grayling Aug 18th 2009 4:54 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 7855852)
What, you don't like Swan lager?

I would rather drink kangaroo piss than that type of shite.

Lord_Farquar Aug 18th 2009 4:57 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by asprilla (Post 7855862)
I wouldn't normally have bothered, but I've read a fair few of your other posts over the past week or so.

Are you my stalker? Or is it because I was rude about Brisbane?

The_Wookie Aug 18th 2009 4:59 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 
Why on earth did I even bother doing this....

:confused:

Lord_Farquar Aug 18th 2009 4:59 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by The_Wookie (Post 7855876)
Why on earth did I even bother doing this....

:confused:

Because you were bored?

The_Wookie Aug 18th 2009 5:05 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 
Hmmm - you're a bit of a troll idiot aren't you?

No, like I said - it may be a bit of a heads-up to people heading out to Perth from the UK/London.

I certainly wasn't aware of a lot of what I've found out since living here when still in London.

Shit, why am I even bothering to reply to a muppet like you.

Lord_Farquar Aug 18th 2009 5:06 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by The_Wookie (Post 7855896)
Hmmm - you're a bit of a troll idiot aren't you?

No, like I said - it may be a bit of a heads-up to people heading out to Perth from the UK/London.

I certainly wasn't aware of a lot of what I've found out since living here when still in London.

Shit, why am I even bothering to reply to a muppet like you.


Wow that's not very nice is it. I was only having a bit of fun.

Amazulu Aug 18th 2009 5:27 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7855848)
...and the beers a lot better.

Depends on what kind of beer you like. I think British 'real' ale is rank and tastes like dishwater. I prefer Belgian style beers or lagers, pilseners and guinness. IMO the Belgians, Germans and Czechs do much better beer than the Poms. There are some great Aussie beers - Redback being my favourite.

Amazulu Aug 18th 2009 5:28 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by The_Wookie (Post 7855876)
Why on earth did I even bother doing this....

:confused:

Your post was fine - don't sweat it.

Lord_Farquar Aug 18th 2009 5:35 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 7855949)
Depends on what kind of beer you like. I think British 'real' ale is rank and tastes like dishwater. I prefer Belgian style beers or lagers, pilseners and guinness. IMO the Belgians, Germans and Czechs do much better beer than the Poms. There are some great Aussie beers - Redback being my favourite.

Don't agree that 'real' ale is rank or tastes like dishwater.
From what you have said it sounds like you just prefer lager than ale/ beer. I do agree with Belgian beer, it is easily the best in the world.

In my opinion there are much better beers than Redback which is just an imitation of a Hoegarden style white beer. Current Aussie favourites are Murray's Sassy Blonde and Grand Cru.

the troubadour Aug 18th 2009 5:37 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by jimbo_d (Post 7855752)
London metro population about 14m, Perth metro about 1.5m?


Smoking though, don't agree there, I notice in Oz as a whole far fewer people smoke, statistically somthing like 35% adults in UK smoke compared to 25% here

Would have thought the same with regards to smoking.Little tolerence here for it at all....Expect UK will make up ground with the smoking ban in pubs now in place. Possibly won't be a lot of drinkers left soon either, what with the rate of pub closures over there,which to a large part is to do with smoking bans.

Amazulu Aug 18th 2009 5:39 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 7855959)
Don't agree that 'real' ale is rank or tastes like dishwater.
From what you have said it sounds like you just prefer lager than ale/ beer. I do agree with Belgian beer, it is easily the best in the world.

In my opinion there are much better beers than Redback which is just an imitation of a Hoegarden style white beer. Current Aussie favourites are Murray's Sassy Blonde and Grand Cru.

Real ale is rank in my opinion.

Different strokes for different folks Champ.

Lord_Farquar Aug 18th 2009 5:44 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 7855966)
Real ale is rank in my opinion.

Different strokes for different folks Champ.

Fair enough, I love real ale. I tend to avoid anything that is mass manufactured. Prefer the boutique stuff.

I would reccomend Snowy Mountains Crackenback Pale Ale. If you can get it in Perth that is.

Amazulu Aug 18th 2009 5:47 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 7855977)
Fair enough, I love real ale. I tend to avoid anything that is mass manufactured. Prefer the boutique stuff.

I would reccomend Snowy Mountains Crackenback Pale Ale. If you can get it in Perth that is.

I'll give it a go. Dan Murphy seem to stock most beers.

ABCDiamond Aug 18th 2009 6:10 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 7855834)
It would be more relevant to compare Perth with a city of similar size though.

Wouldn't that be irrelevant though, as the OP is comparing the two places that they have lived in. :D

lol Aug 18th 2009 6:50 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 
Perth has been ranked the 5th best city to live in the world....

FORGET Dullsville, Perth is one of the world's top five places to live, according to a British survey ranking the liveability of 140 major cities.

Australian cities occupy five of the top 20 places in the Economist Intelligence Unit's 2009 Liveability survey, with Melbourne ranked third in the world, behind Vancouver in Canada and the Austrian city of Vienna.

The survey assessed 140 cities based on stability, health care, education, infrastructure and culture and environment, giving each one a rating out of 100.

Perth was equal fifth with Calgary in Canada, with Sydney sharing ninth place with Zurich in Switzerland, Adelaide in 11th place and Brisbane 16th on the list.

As well as Vancouver and Calgary, Canadian cities also featured strongly in the top 20, with Toronto (4th) and Montreal (17th).

The New Zealand cities of Auckland and Wellington finished 12th and 23rd respectively.

US centres were well down the list. Pittsburgh ranked highest, in 29th place.

The highest-ranked Asian city was Osaka in Japan (13th). The next highest was Hong Kong (equal 39th with Madrid, Spain) followed by Singapore (54th) and Seoul, South Korea (58th).

The worst city to live on earth is Harare, the strife-torn capital of Zimbabwe.

"The performance of Asian cities reflects the diverse levels of development throughout the region,'' EIU spokesman Jon Copestake said.

"Australian cities represent many of the best aspects of liveability, while instability in countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh means that cities in South Asia fare much worse.''

The Economist Intelligence Unit is a branch of The Economist Group, which publishes The Economist, a weekly news magazine, in London.

Dorothy Aug 18th 2009 7:25 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by lol (Post 7856115)
Perth has been ranked the 5th best city to live in the world....

FORGET Dullsville, Perth is one of the world's top five places to live, according to a British survey ranking the liveability of 140 major cities.

Australian cities occupy five of the top 20 places in the Economist Intelligence Unit's 2009 Liveability survey, with Melbourne ranked third in the world, behind Vancouver in Canada and the Austrian city of Vienna.

The survey assessed 140 cities based on stability, health care, education, infrastructure and culture and environment, giving each one a rating out of 100.

Perth was equal fifth with Calgary in Canada, with Sydney sharing ninth place with Zurich in Switzerland, Adelaide in 11th place and Brisbane 16th on the list.

As well as Vancouver and Calgary, Canadian cities also featured strongly in the top 20, with Toronto (4th) and Montreal (17th).

The New Zealand cities of Auckland and Wellington finished 12th and 23rd respectively.

US centres were well down the list. Pittsburgh ranked highest, in 29th place.

The highest-ranked Asian city was Osaka in Japan (13th). The next highest was Hong Kong (equal 39th with Madrid, Spain) followed by Singapore (54th) and Seoul, South Korea (58th).

The worst city to live on earth is Harare, the strife-torn capital of Zimbabwe.

"The performance of Asian cities reflects the diverse levels of development throughout the region,'' EIU spokesman Jon Copestake said.

"Australian cities represent many of the best aspects of liveability, while instability in countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh means that cities in South Asia fare much worse.''

The Economist Intelligence Unit is a branch of The Economist Group, which publishes The Economist, a weekly news magazine, in London.

Link, please

Dorothy Aug 18th 2009 7:25 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by The_Wookie (Post 7855896)
Hmmm - you're a bit of a troll idiot aren't you?

No, like I said - it may be a bit of a heads-up to people heading out to Perth from the UK/London.

I certainly wasn't aware of a lot of what I've found out since living here when still in London.

Shit, why am I even bothering to reply to a muppet like you.

Enough of the insults. We're all grown ups here, so start acting like it.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Aug 18th 2009 7:45 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by The_Wookie (Post 7855876)
Why on earth did I even bother doing this....

:confused:

I learnt long ago to never, ever, start a thread that compares the UK with Oz in anyway shape or form unless you are up for verbal punch up.... I used to start them all the time. :)

iamthecreaturefromuranus Aug 18th 2009 7:52 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7856043)
Wouldn't that be irrelevant though, as the OP is comparing the two places that they have lived in. :D

Comparing Blackpool to Shellharbour

1) Both are near the sea
2) Blackpool has loads more twinkly lights at certain times of year
3) Shellharbour has dolphins... in the sea, not a tank.
3) One of them has more pavement pizza's on weekend mornings.
4) The beer is better in Blackpool
5) Blackpool has much bigger pylons.

Other than that they are almost indistinguishable. ;)

Grayling Aug 18th 2009 8:04 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 7856232)
3) Shellharbour has dolphins... in the sea, not a tank.

Blackpool also has plenty of wild dolphins in the sea...not in a tank

http://www.seawatchfoundation.org.uk...tput_region=11

G

iamthecreaturefromuranus Aug 18th 2009 8:12 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7856253)
Blackpool also has plenty of wild dolphins in the sea...not in a tank

http://www.seawatchfoundation.org.uk...tput_region=11

G

I'm stunned !!

Never saw any from the bar though.. which I have managed from here. :)

http://www.oceanbeachhotel.com.au/

The_Wookie Aug 18th 2009 8:17 pm

Re: Differences between London and Perth...
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 7856181)
Enough of the insults. We're all grown ups here, so start acting like it.

Maybe you should start looking at troll-like sarcastic comments started in a thread that was intended to help future expats? That's what this place is for after all, isn't it?

It's clear to anyone that the guy is on a wind-up, and was adding nothing to this thread apart from sarcasm, thus he is a troll in my opinion and a moderator should 'have a word'. If that kind of behaviour is allowed on this forum people will give up creating posts.

My initial comments re: Perth and London were not knocking one or the other, they were merely things I've noticed. Yet still there are muppets who try to insinuate that it is a slagging off Perth thread, and that I can't compare London to Perth.

I've certainly learnt my lesson and will most definitely not be starting anymore threads as there's a few on here who go out of their way to try and make people look like fools, in some inane attempt to try and look clever.


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