Death of Medicare ?
Apr 29th 2003, 3:29 am
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Death of Medicare ?
Well who needs a public health service anyway we are all far too rich to expect the state to look after us .
Bugger it we end up paying some of the cost on top of taxes and levys so why not go the whole way , so any chance of a tax rebate little Johnny?
Yet to understand what the goverment do with the big bite out of our wage packet , poor defence forces , limited health care and education that is so good most find extra cash to go private?
''Abandonment of our universal health-care system could be John Howard's greatest coup yet, writes Angela Shanahan.''
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...381898318.html
Bugger it we end up paying some of the cost on top of taxes and levys so why not go the whole way , so any chance of a tax rebate little Johnny?
Yet to understand what the goverment do with the big bite out of our wage packet , poor defence forces , limited health care and education that is so good most find extra cash to go private?
''Abandonment of our universal health-care system could be John Howard's greatest coup yet, writes Angela Shanahan.''
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...381898318.html
Apr 29th 2003, 10:29 am
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yes luckily enough trust me tony wouldn't do something like that
would he??
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richard
would he??
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Apr 29th 2003, 11:40 am
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The idiot Blair is capable of anything. !!
Apr 29th 2003, 12:12 pm
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Beats me why its called a national health service in any case - its actually a national sickness service. Until politicians realise prevention is vastly better than cure, they'll continue to pour pounds (or dollars) down the drain.
Tax rebates for not using the service would be far more effective. Or how about rewarding healthy lifestyles? OOps, I forgot, its far more lucrative to tax bad habits!!
Tax rebates for not using the service would be far more effective. Or how about rewarding healthy lifestyles? OOps, I forgot, its far more lucrative to tax bad habits!!
Apr 30th 2003, 12:05 am
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Originally posted by kevmitch
Beats me why its called a national health service in any case - its actually a national sickness service. Until politicians realise prevention is vastly better than cure, they'll continue to pour pounds (or dollars) down the drain.
Tax rebates for not using the service would be far more effective. Or how about rewarding healthy lifestyles? OOps, I forgot, its far more lucrative to tax bad habits!!
Beats me why its called a national health service in any case - its actually a national sickness service. Until politicians realise prevention is vastly better than cure, they'll continue to pour pounds (or dollars) down the drain.
Tax rebates for not using the service would be far more effective. Or how about rewarding healthy lifestyles? OOps, I forgot, its far more lucrative to tax bad habits!!
The NHS has drawbacks but the main difference between that and Australias dogs dinner of a health care system is that Australias is more American its health by wealth .
If you are healthy and fit great you can work and amass capital which then can ensure health care in times of need bugger your luck if not .
We find it hard going here that nearly all jobs only allow 2 weeks sick pay a year not nearly enough , plus everytime you use any health care its pay , pay and pay again .
Apr 30th 2003, 12:36 am
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When looking at the NHS from afar it seems like a distant dream. I advise all to get their ailments and teeth fixed before coming to Australia (as I did) where it is free (or cheap for dentistry).
The system here is Byzantine and expensive. $40 to visit the doctor then the joy of a one hour queue in your lunch hour to get a partial rebate in a Medicare shop.
My children were offered some immunisations at $75 which I thought cheap now that I am getting used to having to pay for healthcare
The system here is Byzantine and expensive. $40 to visit the doctor then the joy of a one hour queue in your lunch hour to get a partial rebate in a Medicare shop.
My children were offered some immunisations at $75 which I thought cheap now that I am getting used to having to pay for healthcare
Apr 30th 2003, 3:42 am
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My GP who is also a friend, believes that apart from the medical liability insurance crisis, the plain fact that so many Australians are partly or wholly subsidided by Welfare is the main problem.
Says he believes less than 30% of his patients actually pay out of their own pocket. Rest are receiving enough welfare (justly or not) to enable the rest of us to pay pay and pay again for their health care as well as our own. His opinion is also that most of them are fully capable of supporting themselves but just dont want to.
Untill this country kicks the welfare system up the ass, and says hello, we just cant afford to support so many bludgers, the health care system will keep going down like a sinking ship.
People who work here feel like idiots, because those on welfare are so often much better off.
Says he believes less than 30% of his patients actually pay out of their own pocket. Rest are receiving enough welfare (justly or not) to enable the rest of us to pay pay and pay again for their health care as well as our own. His opinion is also that most of them are fully capable of supporting themselves but just dont want to.
Untill this country kicks the welfare system up the ass, and says hello, we just cant afford to support so many bludgers, the health care system will keep going down like a sinking ship.
People who work here feel like idiots, because those on welfare are so often much better off.
Apr 30th 2003, 4:46 am
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Originally posted by dotty
My GP who is also a friend, believes that apart from the medical liability insurance crisis, the plain fact that so many Australians are partly or wholly subsidided by Welfare is the main problem.
Says he believes less than 30% of his patients actually pay out of their own pocket. Rest are receiving enough welfare (justly or not) to enable the rest of us to pay pay and pay again for their health care as well as our own. His opinion is also that most of them are fully capable of supporting themselves but just dont want to.
Untill this country kicks the welfare system up the ass, and says hello, we just cant afford to support so many bludgers, the health care system will keep going down like a sinking ship.
People who work here feel like idiots, because those on welfare are so often much better off.
My GP who is also a friend, believes that apart from the medical liability insurance crisis, the plain fact that so many Australians are partly or wholly subsidided by Welfare is the main problem.
Says he believes less than 30% of his patients actually pay out of their own pocket. Rest are receiving enough welfare (justly or not) to enable the rest of us to pay pay and pay again for their health care as well as our own. His opinion is also that most of them are fully capable of supporting themselves but just dont want to.
Untill this country kicks the welfare system up the ass, and says hello, we just cant afford to support so many bludgers, the health care system will keep going down like a sinking ship.
People who work here feel like idiots, because those on welfare are so often much better off.
But given my Wifes health problems and my soft socialist views I think health care should be free to all as should education.
If half my tax was put into Welfare I would have no problems with that at all ,yes kick the work shy out but protect the weak also.
I have found Doctors here the same as America they want rich rewards for little effort , few care about people but love money.
The South West of WA is full of hobby farms and winerys owned by Doctors who only spend a weekend there and use them as a tax break are they not robbing the system?
