Cost of living in Oz
#16
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Re: Cost of living in Oz
Exchange rates mean nothing when comparing. Totally pointless. Personal purchasing power (% of salary something costs in both countries) is the best measure but of course the BE estimate kicks in because some people don't have a job yet in Australia so just want a general country wide estimate of PPP as a whole.
It goes without saying, exchange rates are still highly valuable for people who derive any sort of income from the UK, or bring over capital.
#17
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Yes, my comment about exchange rates being totally useless is re comparing costs/salaries. Naturally converting assets or pensions paid in another country are affected by the rate of exchange.
#18
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Re: Cost of living in Oz
Bear in mind that Australia is a high wage economy for average people.
Minimum wage here for adult is au $15.96 per hour. Don't actually know of anyone earning that little.
UK minimum for adult wage uk pound 6.19 @ 1.5 = au $9.20 Don't know if that is common or not.
Centrelink is also very generous so if you have kids a low Aussie wage is not much of an obstacle to a decent life.
We have pretty average incomes and don't even get centrelink so you would have to be going some not to survive in this nanny state.
Minimum wage here for adult is au $15.96 per hour. Don't actually know of anyone earning that little.
UK minimum for adult wage uk pound 6.19 @ 1.5 = au $9.20 Don't know if that is common or not.
Centrelink is also very generous so if you have kids a low Aussie wage is not much of an obstacle to a decent life.
We have pretty average incomes and don't even get centrelink so you would have to be going some not to survive in this nanny state.
Last edited by neil248; Mar 15th 2013 at 11:31 am.
#19
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Just couldn't sit back and idly let someone contemplate coming here thinking its the land that glitters gold. My electricity bill for last year was nearly 3000 dollars. My Uk electric never came close to that and my house was always warm. Ive never lived in such a cold house here that is way too hot in summer and unless I use copious amounts of electricity to heat/cool the house its almost unbearable.
Then there is the ever present cry on here of 'go to Oz for a better family life' what a croc, you can have a great life with your kids in the UK if you make time for them, moving here doesn't suddenly make you a better parent.
Then there is the ever present cry on here of 'go to Oz for a better family life' what a croc, you can have a great life with your kids in the UK if you make time for them, moving here doesn't suddenly make you a better parent.
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Re: Cost of living in Oz
Just couldn't sit back and idly let someone contemplate coming here thinking its the land that glitters gold. My electricity bill for last year was nearly 3000 dollars. My Uk electric never came close to that and my house was always warm. Ive never lived in such a cold house here that is way too hot in summer and unless I use copious amounts of electricity to heat/cool the house its almost unbearable.
Then there is the ever present cry on here of 'go to Oz for a better family life' what a croc, you can have a great life with your kids in the UK if you make time for them, moving here doesn't suddenly make you a better parent.
Then there is the ever present cry on here of 'go to Oz for a better family life' what a croc, you can have a great life with your kids in the UK if you make time for them, moving here doesn't suddenly make you a better parent.
As for moving here, it's up to the individuals, some people enjoy the lifestyle but noone can be held responsible when it doesn't work out and they're not equipped for it.
#21
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Oh you know, things like turning lights on, cooking, heating, cooling,tv, computers etc. if electric goes up anymore it will be time to get out the candles! Ive already smashed my head into a door frame because I was trying to keep the lights switched off, nearly broke my toe walking into the bed posts, its like I've been electrically taxed back into the tone age!
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Re: Cost of living in Oz
Oh you know, things like turning lights on, cooking, heating, cooling,tv, computers etc. if electric goes up anymore it will be time to get out the candles! Ive already smashed my head into a door frame because I was trying to keep the lights switched off, nearly broke my toe walking into the bed posts, its like I've been electrically taxed back into the tone age!
#23
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Re: Cost of living in Oz
$118 per fortnight electricity.
Don't know if Arkon has been back to the UK lately but was certainly more downbeat when we went compared to sunny QLD
Don't know if Arkon has been back to the UK lately but was certainly more downbeat when we went compared to sunny QLD
Last edited by neil248; Mar 15th 2013 at 11:38 pm.
#24
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Plenty of walks in beautiful green countryside too. If I could I would return in an instant and never look back.
#25
Re: Cost of living in Oz
Just couldn't sit back and idly let someone contemplate coming here thinking its the land that glitters gold. My electricity bill for last year was nearly 3000 dollars. My Uk electric never came close to that and my house was always warm. Ive never lived in such a cold house here that is way too hot in summer and unless I use copious amounts of electricity to heat/cool the house its almost unbearable.
Then there is the ever present cry on here of 'go to Oz for a better family life' what a croc, you can have a great life with your kids in the UK if you make time for them, moving here doesn't suddenly make you a better parent.
Then there is the ever present cry on here of 'go to Oz for a better family life' what a croc, you can have a great life with your kids in the UK if you make time for them, moving here doesn't suddenly make you a better parent.
Chill dude
#26
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Re: Cost of living in Oz
Grass is always greener, so they say....
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Re: Cost of living in Oz
Its all very subjective, the weather for instance is 'better' for everyone in Australia. Im not that bothered by the cold but sweat like a pig in the heat but having said the only place I would live in Australia is Brisbane with its high humidity. The cost of living in Australia rose dramatically in the last 8 to 10 years, there is no escaping that fact. We are finding things generally cheaper here, most food much cheaper with far more range but that is just a bonus.
Another poster mentioned the minimum wage, when you use a sensible exchange rate there is little difference and many people survive on it in both countries, it should arguably be higher but thats the way it is. Some people earn more in Australia, others earn more in the UK and the remainder earn about the same. Comparisons are really hard to make. Australia wont magically give anyone a better life, its not a better place to bring up kids and there are most of the same problems the rest of the world has. Australia can be a great place to live for many but not for others. Nowhere is one size fits all.
Each country has huge advantages over the other so in the end it just comes down to whichever suits you more.
Another poster mentioned the minimum wage, when you use a sensible exchange rate there is little difference and many people survive on it in both countries, it should arguably be higher but thats the way it is. Some people earn more in Australia, others earn more in the UK and the remainder earn about the same. Comparisons are really hard to make. Australia wont magically give anyone a better life, its not a better place to bring up kids and there are most of the same problems the rest of the world has. Australia can be a great place to live for many but not for others. Nowhere is one size fits all.
Each country has huge advantages over the other so in the end it just comes down to whichever suits you more.
#29
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The electricity co. pays us since we went solar.
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Re: Cost of living in Oz
Oh you know, things like turning lights on, cooking, heating, cooling,tv, computers etc. if electric goes up anymore it will be time to get out the candles! Ive already smashed my head into a door frame because I was trying to keep the lights switched off, nearly broke my toe walking into the bed posts, its like I've been electrically taxed back into the tone age!
Our bill was always 400 a quarter - maybe 600, once 700 in winter and we don't have gas. It's now about 350 a year with solar.