contemplating Australia
Jul 12th 2005, 3:54 pm
#196
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by Soi Oz
NEWSFLASH... Australia is where Australians live. Most Australians like to know what's going on in AUSTRALIA. The way you guys are carrying on you'd think that there's no world news on TV, and remember that you're talking about free to air TV, not 24 hour news channels. If you're missing news about the UK then I can understand that, but why would you expect Aussie news channels to devote much time to UK news? (major events excepted - and they ARE covered - the London bombing ad naseum, Iraq nightly, etc etc).
How about some perspective, how much news about home do you think an Aussie living in the UK gets? SFA! While I was living in London I could have been excused for thinking that Australia had fallen off the map. I now live in Bangkok, so the only news I get is the BBC and CNN on cable TV. Both call themselves 'world' news but they are heavily flavoured toward their country of origin - which is what I'd expect. I hear this same criticism coming from expats in all parts of the world - try living in the US and watching FTA TV... Wait until the Olympics comes around again.... I guarantee that there will be endless complaints on here that there's no coverage of anything unless Aussie is competing. Well hello, the country would riot if the networks did anything else... (and yes, I was in the UK during an Olympics and no, there was bugger all coverage of anything without England in it - again, as I'd expect)
How about some perspective, how much news about home do you think an Aussie living in the UK gets? SFA! While I was living in London I could have been excused for thinking that Australia had fallen off the map. I now live in Bangkok, so the only news I get is the BBC and CNN on cable TV. Both call themselves 'world' news but they are heavily flavoured toward their country of origin - which is what I'd expect. I hear this same criticism coming from expats in all parts of the world - try living in the US and watching FTA TV... Wait until the Olympics comes around again.... I guarantee that there will be endless complaints on here that there's no coverage of anything unless Aussie is competing. Well hello, the country would riot if the networks did anything else... (and yes, I was in the UK during an Olympics and no, there was bugger all coverage of anything without England in it - again, as I'd expect)
Jul 12th 2005, 4:29 pm
#197
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by Soi Oz
The way you guys are carrying on you'd think that there's no world news on TV
. One example of many. Personally it dosn't bother me but theres no point trying to defend Australian news coverage and TV. Its shite. End of! Its not a comparison thing either its just shite.
Jul 12th 2005, 4:35 pm
#198
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by fnord
I personally don't think Akron has that opinion because he's not Aussie. I'm a Kiwi who has spent 12 years in London and I think NZ TV is crap. I have sampled OZ TV and is seems to me to be just a few steps up from NZ TV: still rubbish compared to UK TV. My colleague in London, Aussie born and bred, also agrees about OZ TV. On the whole, it's of a poorer standard. You'll just have to accept our opinion as being the correct opinion 
. But hey, it's what you'd expect given the size, wealth, talent pool and history of each country's media. And, as I mentioned before, bad TV is something I'm looking forward to. Sorry Soi, but Oz can't be great at everything... at least, not yet 
.
. But hey, it's what you'd expect given the size, wealth, talent pool and history of each country's media. And, as I mentioned before, bad TV is something I'm looking forward to. Sorry Soi, but Oz can't be great at everything... at least, not yet .Right, back to TV. There is some absolute crap on Oz TV I admit. There is also a lot of advertising but remember, Australia is a big country. Because of that, it has a lot of FTA TV cannels in comparison with the UK which has a lot less due to its denser population and smaller size. Perth (which is the only Aussie city that I've lived in) has three commercial TV channels (7,9 & 10), Two national channels (ABC and SBS) and one public channel (31). The quality that is there gets spread pretty thin, as do the advertising dollars I suspect - hence the constant interruptions to what decent programming there is.
Anyway, there's plenty of options to watching TV all night.
Jul 12th 2005, 4:40 pm
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by kendodd
Understand, but I wasn't asking for UK news....I mentioned WORLD news....
Jul 12th 2005, 4:48 pm
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by HUP
After being here a coupla years I guess the Palastinean crisis ended 2 years ago and everyones happy in Israel. You'd sort of get that picture from the news coverage . One example of many. Personally it dosn't bother me but theres no point trying to defend Australian news coverage and TV. Its shite. End of! Its not a comparison thing either its just shite.
. One example of many. Personally it dosn't bother me but theres no point trying to defend Australian news coverage and TV. Its shite. End of! Its not a comparison thing either its just shite. I disagree with you on Palestine, it gets more than enough coverage - How many times can you report the same story? (and that's what the Palestine conflict has been - the same story repeated over and over. It will remain so until the Israelis, their US backers and the Palestinians are serious about resolving it)
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Jul 12th 2005, 5:27 pm
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by Soi Oz
Sure, but what world news do you think is missing? Given FTA news bulletins are only 1/2 an hour (including sport and weather) then I don't see where there's much room for anything but the main world events - and these DO get reported.
But I still can't explain why, after watching Sky news, that somehow it seems that they have put it across better. Even the Aussie skynews is better than the news on abc, they just seem to cover events better and in a more even way. Sorry if I think that!!
Jul 12th 2005, 6:23 pm
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by kendodd
OK, I stand corrected.
But I still can't explain why, after watching Sky news, that somehow it seems that they have put it across better. Even the Aussie skynews is better than the news on abc, they just seem to cover events better and in a more even way. Sorry if I think that!!
But I still can't explain why, after watching Sky news, that somehow it seems that they have put it across better. Even the Aussie skynews is better than the news on abc, they just seem to cover events better and in a more even way. Sorry if I think that!!
Jul 12th 2005, 6:53 pm
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by arkon
If I was to be synical I'd say the only reason the london bombings were covered was because there were some australian casualties. The news here is very much 'me myself and I'
Jul 12th 2005, 7:09 pm
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Re: contemplating Australia
Latest ABC news: http://www.abc.net.au/news/
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Latest Headlines
Bomb hits Sunni mosque in Iraq 16:00 AEST
Patel extradition delay 'not unreasonable' 16:00 AEST
Study focuses on mental health needs 16:00 AEST
World
Aust sends troops back to Afghanistan
Three-way train crash kills scores in Pakistan
Shuttle launch 'a go' after falling tile repaired
Australia
Aust sends troops back to Afghanistan
London bomb victims remembered in Canberra service
Patel extradition delay 'not unreasonable'
Business
Personal borrowing falls 3pc
Professor challenges IR productivity claims
Survey fails to dent PM's Telstra determination
Latest BBC News from http://news.bbc.co.uk/
Bomb hunt focuses on masterminds
Over 100 killed in Pakistan crash
Shuttle launch still on schedule
OTHER TOP STORIES
US hails energy offer to N Korea
Australia troops for Afghanistan
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US opposes UN reform plan
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Jul 12th 2005, 7:32 pm
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by kendodd
OK, I stand corrected.
But I still can't explain why, after watching Sky news, that somehow it seems that they have put it across better. Even the Aussie skynews is better than the news on abc, they just seem to cover events better and in a more even way. Sorry if I think that!!
But I still can't explain why, after watching Sky news, that somehow it seems that they have put it across better. Even the Aussie skynews is better than the news on abc, they just seem to cover events better and in a more even way. Sorry if I think that!!
Jul 12th 2005, 9:30 pm
#206
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Re: contemplating Australia
The world agrees, Oz TV is rubbish :
http://fishbowl.pastiche.org/2005/02...tv_still_sucks
http://stupidaussies.curvedspaces.com/tv.htm
http://www.celebchaos.com/oztvdiscussion.htm
http://www.brainbox.com.au/members/b...E?opendocument
Random quotes from these websites obviously written by level-headed, right-thinkers (particularly "Fatpie" who also has a lot to say about the Aussie accent, Aussie music and how "Australia was built on a deserted island in 1984":
"Neighbours - This has been running every day for 92 years and every episode was written by Rolf Harris"
"we just fill our mandatory local content quotas with endless soaps, painfully bad sitcoms and recycled American reality-TV concepts. Badly recycled."
"City slickers forget that country viewers are even worse off and shows are at different episodes in different cities even so it's all over the place to start with."
"Aussie commercial TV stations are like American ones without the imagination or the budget. A two hour movie quickly turns into a four hour marathon once you add in the commercials."
:http://fishbowl.pastiche.org/2005/02...tv_still_sucks
http://stupidaussies.curvedspaces.com/tv.htm
http://www.celebchaos.com/oztvdiscussion.htm
http://www.brainbox.com.au/members/b...E?opendocument
Random quotes from these websites obviously written by level-headed, right-thinkers (particularly "Fatpie" who also has a lot to say about the Aussie accent, Aussie music and how "Australia was built on a deserted island in 1984":
"Neighbours - This has been running every day for 92 years and every episode was written by Rolf Harris"
"we just fill our mandatory local content quotas with endless soaps, painfully bad sitcoms and recycled American reality-TV concepts. Badly recycled."
"City slickers forget that country viewers are even worse off and shows are at different episodes in different cities even so it's all over the place to start with."
"Aussie commercial TV stations are like American ones without the imagination or the budget. A two hour movie quickly turns into a four hour marathon once you add in the commercials."
Jul 13th 2005, 1:27 am
#207
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Re: contemplating Australia
Has anyone else noticed that there is no advert break between the programmes?
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Jul 13th 2005, 1:56 am
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by kirsty&al
Has anyone else noticed that there is no advert break between the programmes?
A.
A.
Did anyone see the *news* tonight where they did a real piece of investigative journalism to find out if the complaint that the adverts were louder than the programs was true and therefore illegal? They concluded that it was caused by ‘compression’ and although scientifically proven by an expert that the adverts were 3db higher it was not actually louder!!! LOL ROFL LOL LOL You’ve got to hand it to them out here they can *prove* black is white!
Jul 13th 2005, 11:11 am
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Re: contemplating Australia
That program on the adverts was interesting, in that it showed there is a legal maximum noise factor, and the adverts do not exceed it, so they stay within the law.
The law actually states that the adverts cannot go higher than the maximum allowed noise factor for any standard TV program.
However, the normal TV programs rarely reach that maximum, other than Load Screams, Airplane engine noise, etc etc, whereas "some" of the Advert producers happily admitted that they try to get the maximum allowed volume throughout as much of the advert as they can, called compression.
Personally I don't worry about it, as I have a mute button on my remote control
The law actually states that the adverts cannot go higher than the maximum allowed noise factor for any standard TV program.
However, the normal TV programs rarely reach that maximum, other than Load Screams, Airplane engine noise, etc etc, whereas "some" of the Advert producers happily admitted that they try to get the maximum allowed volume throughout as much of the advert as they can, called compression.
Personally I don't worry about it, as I have a mute button on my remote control
Jul 13th 2005, 11:43 am
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Re: contemplating Australia
Originally Posted by arkon
What and spoil the adverts! Did anyone see the *news* tonight where they did a real piece of investigative journalism to find out if the complaint that the adverts were louder than the programs was true and therefore illegal? They concluded that it was caused by ‘compression’ and although scientifically proven by an expert that the adverts were 3db higher it was not actually louder!!! LOL ROFL LOL LOL You’ve got to hand it to them out here they can *prove* black is white!
Did anyone see the *news* tonight where they did a real piece of investigative journalism to find out if the complaint that the adverts were louder than the programs was true and therefore illegal? They concluded that it was caused by ‘compression’ and although scientifically proven by an expert that the adverts were 3db higher it was not actually louder!!! LOL ROFL LOL LOL You’ve got to hand it to them out here they can *prove* black is white!
