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Old Jan 31st 2008 | 8:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Pomster
Think they have no time for people who do not 'go with the flow'.
....OK there's not supposed to be any debating here....BUT.....they probably have no time for people who go against the grain of the outcome of the clear majority of scientific evidence....instead basing their opinions on a media induced hype based on a single study which has since been completely discredited. As health professionals it must be very difficult for them to deal with unneccesary outbreaks of these illnesses.

The vaccine has been used in some countries for more than 25 YEARS now.
 
Old Jan 31st 2008 | 8:54 pm
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My kids have had all jabs they are 'supposed to' - personal choice. My nephew went through the single vacine route and between jabs caught mumps - god he was sooo ill. There is no right or wrong view but these diseases are pretty awful.
 
Old Jan 31st 2008 | 9:09 pm
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.....But with MMR there is still the concern re possible links with autism.

My daughter is almost 1 and due MMR. Apparently they do not authorise single vaccinations here- so I was told. All or nothing! However a friend in the next borough was given the address of a doc who does offer single vaccines. She is going to pass the info to me.

When I told the nurses of my reluctance to take triple jab, they were really rather unhelpful & dismissive and turned their backs to me. Think they have no time for people who do not 'go with the flow'.
I would like my daughter to have rubella as that affects pregnant women and can have the most devastating effect....the others were not given pre 1988, so can't see the pressing need.
Originally Posted by thebaggos
My kids have had all jabs they are 'supposed to' - personal choice. My nephew went through the single vacine route and between jabs caught mumps - god he was sooo ill. There is no right or wrong view but these diseases are pretty awful.
My daughter has mumps at the minute. Luckily she has had her MMR vaccinations so it's not a bad case of them. I obviously have been looking into the symptoms and feel that because she has had the jabs she is somewhat protected from the worst of it. I would feel so guilty if she had a severe case and I had not had her vaccinated - I did consider not giving her them, but my other two had them before all the autism link debate and they are both fine.

It is a very personal choice and I appreciate anyone's view on their kids health as being the right choice for them at the time. But these diseases carry real risks too, something that is often forgotten in the day of not many cases of the illnesses, which is linked to the vaccinations being given.
 
Old Jan 31st 2008 | 9:10 pm
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We do vaccinate our kids, but I believe they can still start school if they sign a conscienscous objector form. I'm not certain because I haven't really looked into. But it may be an option, although I'm not sure if that's all schools or states, etc.

As far as the single shot goes.... my daughter had to have the HepB as single shots because that's all she was missing. They do them later in Canada so to be up to date here that's all she needed. They do have to special order them every time just for her. I presume that they might be able to do that for the others as well.

I'm definitely not getting into a debate here as it was requested. Although I will point out that there is a debate going on in another thread, I believe it's called "to immunize or not". It didn't start out as a debate it just involved into one
 
Old Jan 31st 2008 | 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Pomster
.....But with MMR there is still the concern re possible links with autism.
No, there really isn't. There have been many studies since the one that suggested a link between the MMR and autism. It has been shown repeatedly that the original research (Wakefield studies) was poorly done and flawed. Further research has not found any links between the MMR and autism.

I understand that people may still be concern, but for the most part it's really unjustified based on the scientific evidence.

http://betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2...m?OpenDocument

That's just one of many articles discussing the MMR and autism debate.
 
Old Feb 1st 2008 | 4:31 am
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Originally Posted by renth
Have caused it.

Nice one parent's who don't immunize, it's not about your little darlings it's about the health of the community. :curse:
Uumm.... having single vaccines is still immunising!
 
Old Feb 1st 2008 | 4:41 am
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Thanks for all the replies, i can't believe how many of you wanted to reply.

I'm not sure how many of you actually read the original post as it seems that people have much to say about people that do and don't immunise......I DO IMMUNISE!......
It's just my personal choice to have single vaccines if possible.

I mean, how many of you people breast fed your children, my kids are never ill, i BF untill they were both 10months - the best prevention a baby can get.
 
Old Feb 1st 2008 | 4:47 am
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Originally Posted by betsyboob
Thanks for all the replies, i can't believe how many of you wanted to reply.

I'm not sure how many of you actually read the original post as it seems that people have much to say about people that do and don't immunise......I DO IMMUNISE!......
It's just my personal choice to have single vaccines if possible.

I mean, how many of you people breast fed your children, my kids are never ill, i BF untill they were both 10months - the best prevention a baby can get.
well the fact that you breastfed is good- but it isn't giving them immunity now... the immunity in breastmilk is transient, it goes about 2 weeks after breastfeeding starts, unlike immunisation which lasts much longer.

yes it is your own choice if you want to use single vaccines, and expose you children to three times the risk of infection. What people are saying is that the tripple vaccine really is safe. There is absolutley no proven link to autism, or indeed any indication of a link, so perhaps you might want to have a rethink. It is your choice at the end of the day.
 
Old Feb 1st 2008 | 4:53 am
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well the fact that you breastfed is good- but it isn't giving them immunity now... the immunity in breastmilk is transient, it goes about 2 weeks after breastfeeding starts, unlike immunisation which lasts much longer.

yes it is your own choice if you want to use single vaccines, and expose you children to three times the risk of infection. What people are saying is that the tripple vaccine really is safe. There is absolutley no proven link to autism, or indeed any indication of a link, so perhaps you might want to have a rethink. It is your choice at the end of the day.


I expect you bottle fed then...your choice.
 
Old Feb 1st 2008 | 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by betsyboob
I expect you bottle fed then...your choice.
me? got no kids... I'm just giving the Biological facts cos that's what I do (Biology teacher)

I don't understand the agression, I said breasfeeding was good!
 
Old Feb 1st 2008 | 5:13 am
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Im sorry it just seems that i am being attacked for not immunising, but i do immunise just a different way. My children are not exposed to three times the risk, they have the same amount of vax just in three seperate shots.

I have read many studies that prove that the immune system developement is significantly improved by the introduction of some components of breast milk.

Anyway, lets not have a debate
 
Old Feb 1st 2008 | 5:19 am
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Originally Posted by betsyboob
Im sorry it just seems that i am being attacked for not immunising, but i do immunise just a different way. My children are not exposed to three times the risk, they have the same amount of vax just in three seperate shots.

I have read many studies that prove that the immune system developement is significantly improved by the introduction of some components of breast milk.

Anyway, lets not have a debate
Apology accepted, these kind of threads alwasy seem to make emotions run high.

I was refering to the risk of infection- slight but always there when an injection is used. three jabs means three piercings of the skin so three times that risk.

breastfeeding does help the immune system, but only while it's ongoing unfortunately. Still when I do have kids I'll do it, I'll also give them the MMR
 
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I mean, how many of you people breast fed your children, my kids are never ill, i BF untill they were both 10months - the best prevention a baby can get.[/QUOTE]


..please don't start on this one - some of us aren't able to breast feed no matter how hard we try - that's not always personal choice.
 
Old Feb 1st 2008 | 8:00 pm
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Originally Posted by lucy.summers
I mean, how many of you people breast fed your children, my kids are never ill, i BF untill they were both 10months - the best prevention a baby can get.

..please don't start on this one - some of us aren't able to breast feed no matter how hard we try - that's not always personal choice.[/QUOTE]
Going back to the original ques - my daughter started school on the Gold Coast - vaccinations not an issue at all (though she is vaccinated to english standards for 7 year olds). No requests for her health records and we are not yet registered with a doctor.

My younger daughter enrolled for kindy on Friday - had to fill in a form saying about immunisations - told the woman that i only had her health record - fine no problem for them.
 
Old Feb 1st 2008 | 8:22 pm
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I think it really depends on the school.

My daughter was doing kindy 1 day a week and they asked to see a copy of her immunization record.

She's now in pre-prep two days a week and the school asked for a copy as well. So I think it really depends on the school.
 


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