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wargod Aug 22nd 2005 7:25 pm

Changing our mind.....
 
Morning/afternoon* all,

Well we had friends down on the weekend, they are the ones who put this idea in our minds in the first place, right down to suggesting that Brisbane is the place to settle.

Anyway they now have decided that Melbourne is the place to be. At the time we (the wife and i) said nah - we are still set on Brissy (i even have a website Brisbane or bust!!) however, i spent a few minutes yesterday (during work time of course) checking out Melbourne and basically it dont look too bad.

So the real reason for this post is can anyone suggest any decent areas to have a look at, need schools and beaches etc, etc

Cheers all


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bridiej Aug 22nd 2005 7:26 pm

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LOL - sounds just like us a few months ago! We were all set on going to Adelaide until we were able to go 136, then I kept thinking "I like the idea of WA" until I finally started researching and was totally sold!

Are you able to visit both before you get settled?

wargod Aug 22nd 2005 7:28 pm

Re: Changing our mind.....
 

Originally Posted by bridiej
LOL - sounds just like us a few months ago! We were all set on going to Adelaide until we were able to go 136, then I kept thinking "I like the idea of WA" until I finally started researching and was totally sold!

Are you able to visit both before you get settled?

It's a pain in the arse !!

Ask me a question about Brisbane and i can answer it immeadiately or at least have an answer in a few minutes, gotta start all over again now !

Still it's better than working :D:D:D

Stitch Aug 22nd 2005 11:33 pm

Re: Changing our mind.....
 

Originally Posted by wargod
Morning/afternoon* all,

Well we had friends down on the weekend, they are the ones who put this idea in our minds in the first place, right down to suggesting that Brisbane is the place to settle.

Anyway they now have decided that Melbourne is the place to be. At the time we (the wife and i) said nah - we are still set on Brissy (i even have a website Brisbane or bust!!) however, i spent a few minutes yesterday (during work time of course) checking out Melbourne and basically it dont look too bad.

So the real reason for this post is can anyone suggest any decent areas to have a look at, need schools and beaches etc, etc

Cheers all


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We were similar. Originally it was Adelaide for us. Got our Visas and had to validate. Had friends in Sydney and then decided to check out Brisbane. Fell in love with the place that we never ended up visiting Adelaide. So Brisbane for us. Hope you find some info. Sorry couldn't help with Melbourne.

Cheers

Ginny

herbaliser Aug 23rd 2005 12:45 am

Re: Changing our mind.....
 
[QUOTE=wargod]Morning/afternoon* all,

Well we had friends down on the weekend, they are the ones who put this idea in our minds in the first place, right down to suggesting that Brisbane is the place to settle.

Anyway they now have decided that Melbourne is the place to be. At the time we (the wife and i) said nah - we are still set on Brissy (i even have a website Brisbane or bust!!) however, i spent a few minutes yesterday (during work time of course) checking out Melbourne and basically it dont look too bad.

So the real reason for this post is can anyone suggest any decent areas to have a look at, need schools and beaches etc, etc




I just came across this site and saw this thread i even signed up just to tell you, mate dont go to Brisbane in a word it's crap.

I have friends up there one owns a bar couple work in IT the only reason there there is they landed good jobs, but they all want to transfer to other cities in Oz as soon as poss. I live two hours south of Brisbane, Ive been up there a few times to see friends and to be honest its just boring.

Melbourne has so much more going for it, culture, things to do all round great city, your kids will thank you for the change of mind, though weather wise you can get four seasons in one day.i dont like cities but if there was one i had to live in it would be Melbourne. hour away get on the great oceon road you have Torquay and further down bells beach great for a surf though the water is cold.
I personaly live in Byron Bay on the east coast and i love it, great vibe, lovely beaches, sunny days and good surf but downside gets busy for a little coastal town.
anyway thats my two cents good luck with it all...

Rooksie Aug 23rd 2005 1:25 am

Re: Changing our mind.....
 

Originally Posted by wargod
It's a pain in the arse !!

Ask me a question about Brisbane and i can answer it immeadiately or at least have an answer in a few minutes, gotta start all over again now !

Still it's better than working :D:D:D

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!! this is just tooooooo much!!!!

we thought we were going to adelaide on 137 now we can go 136 and dont know where the hell to go!?!?!?! hubbie likes to idea of both brisbane AND perth!!!!!!

what has put you off brisbane????? :confused: :confused:

wargod Aug 23rd 2005 3:01 am

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Originally Posted by Rooksie
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!! this is just tooooooo much!!!!

we thought we were going to adelaide on 137 now we can go 136 and dont know where the hell to go!?!?!?! hubbie likes to idea of both brisbane AND perth!!!!!!

what has put you off brisbane????? :confused: :confused:

It's not so much that we have changed our minds more over that we have had another suggestion whispered in our ear and like a buzzing little mosquito we now 'have' to consider it!!

I have been looking on the various real estate websites to see if there is a marked difference with house prices to be honest it seems that Brisbane area (Inc Gold Coast and Sinshine Coast) seem to be cheaper - although not knowing the areas i could be comparing apples with grapefruit, plus i like the idea of having lots of sunshine although the draw back with that is a chuffing hot summer (sits back and waits for the whinging pom comments....)

We also considered Perth but both agreed it was too far away from anything - nice city as it is though.

Rooksie Aug 23rd 2005 3:19 am

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Originally Posted by wargod
It's not so much that we have changed our minds more over that we have had another suggestion whispered in our ear and like a buzzing little mosquito we now 'have' to consider it!!

I have been looking on the various real estate websites to see if there is a marked difference with house prices to be honest it seems that Brisbane area (Inc Gold Coast and Sinshine Coast) seem to be cheaper - although not knowing the areas i could be comparing apples with grapefruit, plus i like the idea of having lots of sunshine although the draw back with that is a chuffing hot summer (sits back and waits for the whinging pom comments....)

We also considered Perth but both agreed it was too far away from anything - nice city as it is though.

i have been thinking long and hard this afternoon (whilst avoiding the hoovering) and it occurred to me that we (either before we had the children or now we have them) have lived in Minehead Somerset and now Torquay Devon which are both holiday resorts so quite why we are shying away from the Gold Coast is beyond me!!!!! also, if i could stand the heat, i think i would opt for cairns but i think the heat might be a killer up there :eek: i like the idea of Perth because housing is cheaper but like you say, could be comparing an apple to a grapefruit for all we know!?!?! there are also heaps more jobs for my husband in Brisbane so i think we have to concentrate on that area really. i remember having a conversation with a forum member who said there wasn't much call for outdoor pools in Melbourne and that put me off slightly :eek:

anyway Ive said enough to get myself shot down in flames already!!!! over to you!! :D

bridiej Aug 23rd 2005 3:19 am

Re: Changing our mind.....
 

Originally Posted by wargod
It's not so much that we have changed our minds more over that we have had another suggestion whispered in our ear and like a buzzing little mosquito we now 'have' to consider it!!

That's kind of how we felt when we realised we had the option to go where we wanted. Although we were keen on Adelaide and would have been more than happy to go there, suddenly there were all these options.

We decided against QLD mainly due to the humidity, BUT we will definitely be visiting other places once we're sorted as you never know....

bridiej Aug 23rd 2005 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by Rooksie
have lived in Minehead Somerset


How long ago did you live in Minehead?

I used to go to boarding school not far from Minehead, at St Audries! :)

Rooksie Aug 23rd 2005 3:24 am

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Originally Posted by bridiej
How long ago did you live in Minehead?

I used to go to boarding school not far from Minehead, at St Audries! :)


they marry people there now and it costs a chuffin fortune!!!!!

we were about 18/19 at the time mate. so it was a few years ago :o :o Jed used to live in minehead and went to minehead school in alcombe - i met him when i was on holiday with my parents when i was 14 :o :o .

bridiej Aug 23rd 2005 3:28 am

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Originally Posted by Rooksie
they marry people there now and it costs a chuffin fortune!!!!!

I know, we went to St Audries caravan park for a week last September (used to go there when I was a kid) and had a look round the grounds of the old school..... happy memories :)

Rooksie Aug 23rd 2005 3:29 am

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Originally Posted by bridiej
I know, we went to St Audries caravan park for a week last September (used to go there when I was a kid) and had a look round the grounds of the old school..... happy memories :)


i went to a Convent in Kidderminster and they have sold off half the land and built bloody houses on it!!!! what a pi*ser!!!

bridiej Aug 23rd 2005 3:38 am

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Originally Posted by Rooksie
i went to a Convent in Kidderminster and they have sold off half the land and built bloody houses on it!!!! what a pi*ser!!!


Ah, you're an ex-Convent girl, that explains EVERYTHING!! :p

Hutch Aug 23rd 2005 3:46 am

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Originally Posted by Rooksie
i went to a Convent in Kidderminster and they have sold off half the land and built bloody houses on it!!!! what a pi*ser!!!

That's the Catholics for you. They knocked down my school (which had existed in one form or another for about a 1000 bloody years) and merged it with the girls Catholic school, because it was sat on prime development land. Nowt to show for my secondary school education but a shit-load of identical and nasty Wimpy homes.

P.S. Sorry for hijacking your thread ...... given the choice, and having visited both, I'd go for Melbourne - but it's such a personal thing and you really ought to give each a good reccy before deciding :D

cybie Aug 23rd 2005 3:51 am

Re: Changing our mind.....
 
We are also stuck on this. Was originally going to be Adelaide but now we have a skilled independent visa and it throws up the "where do we go now" question. Will be validating visa in March so are going to have a look at Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane and hopefully will be able to make mind up then. Have ruled out Melbourne as we thought it would be too cold and wet. Could very well be wrong as have never been there but dont want to get even more confused and look there as well.

Rooksie Aug 23rd 2005 4:06 am

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Originally Posted by Hutch
That's the Catholics for you. They knocked down my school (which had existed in one form or another for about a 1000 bloody years) and merged it with the girls Catholic school, because it was sat on prime development land. Nowt to show for my secondary school education but a shit-load of identical and nasty Wimpy homes.

P.S. Sorry for hijacking your thread ...... given the choice, and having visited both, I'd go for Melbourne - but it's such a personal thing and you really ought to give each a good reccy before deciding :D


Beazer Homes for me!!! bit like legoland :(

bridiej Aug 23rd 2005 4:30 am

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Originally Posted by Rooksie
Beazer Homes for me!!! bit like legoland :(


You sure that wasnt BeaVer!! ;)

lynnlovessun Aug 23rd 2005 5:22 am

Re: Changing our mind.....
 

Originally Posted by wargod
Morning/afternoon* all,

Well we had friends down on the weekend, they are the ones who put this idea in our minds in the first place, right down to suggesting that Brisbane is the place to settle.

Anyway they now have decided that Melbourne is the place to be. At the time we (the wife and i) said nah - we are still set on Brissy (i even have a website Brisbane or bust!!) however, i spent a few minutes yesterday (during work time of course) checking out Melbourne and basically it dont look too bad.

So the real reason for this post is can anyone suggest any decent areas to have a look at, need schools and beaches etc, etc

Cheers all


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Sounds to me like you are copying your friends - don't take this as an insult cause its not - but can you not make up your own minds which state to live in? To me the only way to do that is visit both Melbourne and Brisbane (either on a reccie or choose one then check out the other once you have arrived permanently) - surely you wouldn't change your mind on the basis of a few 'over-simplified' comments on differences between Australian states and cities?????! Sure Brisbane is hot/humid, Melbourne generally cooler year round but to me its a lot more complicated than that! Theres jobs to consider, outdoors lifestyle, house prices - there is no right or wrong answer you either love them or hate them but I don't think our opinions count for much - you should check both cities out yourself. Trust your own instincts and don't panic in moving where your friends are going.

Lynn :)

bridiej Aug 23rd 2005 5:29 am

Re: Changing our mind.....
 

Originally Posted by lynnlovessun
Sounds to me like you are copying your friends - don't take this as an insult cause its not - but can you not make up your own minds which state to live in? To me the only way to do that is visit both Melbourne and Brisbane (either on a reccie or choose one then check out the other once you have arrived permanently) - surely you wouldn't change your mind on the basis of a few 'over-simplified' comments on differences between Australian states and cities?????! Sure Brisbane is hot/humid, Melbourne generally cooler year round but to me its a lot more complicated than that! Theres jobs to consider, outdoors lifestyle, house prices - there is no right or wrong answer you either love them or hate them but I don't think our opinions count for much - you should check both cities out yourself. Trust your own instincts and don't panic in moving where your friends are going.

Lynn :)


Wise words :)

lynnlovessun Aug 23rd 2005 5:32 am

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Originally Posted by bridiej
Wise words :)

Thanks - wasn't sure if I would offend! But though i'd be honest in my opinion (and it is only MY opinion)

Lynn x :)

aussie73 Aug 23rd 2005 10:47 am

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The only way you should decide which place to live in is to actually visit the places youselves. You can't tell just from internet research and just because some people say a place is crap or fantastic does'nt mean you will find itr that way also.

wargod Aug 23rd 2005 7:46 pm

Re: Changing our mind.....
 

Originally Posted by lynnlovessun
Sounds to me like you are copying your friends - don't take this as an insult cause its not - but can you not make up your own minds which state to live in? To me the only way to do that is visit both Melbourne and Brisbane (either on a reccie or choose one then check out the other once you have arrived permanently) - surely you wouldn't change your mind on the basis of a few 'over-simplified' comments on differences between Australian states and cities?????! Sure Brisbane is hot/humid, Melbourne generally cooler year round but to me its a lot more complicated than that! Theres jobs to consider, outdoors lifestyle, house prices - there is no right or wrong answer you either love them or hate them but I don't think our opinions count for much - you should check both cities out yourself. Trust your own instincts and don't panic in moving where your friends are going.

Lynn :)

No offence taken - i would rather candid and honest opinions.

Being honest i think we will end up in Brisbane but we will always have this nagging doubt if we dont go and at least have a look at Melbourne.

One of the reasons we 'chose' brissy is for the outdoors lifestyle (i want a pool!!) Melbourne as has been mentioned above has a more temperate climate which to be honest doesnt real appeal.

I like the idea of knowing pretty much what the weather will be like, the ability to plan ahead etc.

We intend to do a validation trip as soon as we have the grant, but again being honest realistically what will you see, you'll do the tourist bits (in both cities) look round a few houses (in both cities) go for meals etc, etc, visiting on holiday wont get you to scratch the surface. I think we'll just end up going to Sydney for a week ot two, then fly up to Brisbane for another couple of weeks and actually scope out areas to live.


Thanks for your thoughts though !

playbunny75 Aug 23rd 2005 7:59 pm

Re: Changing our mind.....
 
We were orginally were planning on going to Brisbane but then we had trouble getting our visa's the only chance for us to get to Oz was via State nomination (Victoria) we have been in Melbourne for nearly a year and its a great place to live has everything you could want.We have too small children and we are spolit for choice of places to go at weekend.We are off to Gold coast Saturday for a week and are really looking foward to it but for us I think Melbourne was the better option.The weather is a big factor because I acutally like the fact that we get four seasons but if you like the heat all year round maybe Melbourne is not for you.

We could not afford to do a reccy trip so we chose the suburb we have settled in pretty much by the information I found on various website and we couldn't have picked a nicer area.We are five minutes from the beach,train station, great schools and about 50 mintues from the city.

Hope this helps

wargod Aug 23rd 2005 10:49 pm

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Originally Posted by playbunny75
We were orginally were planning on going to Brisbane but then we had trouble getting our visa's the only chance for us to get to Oz was via State nomination (Victoria) we have been in Melbourne for nearly a year and its a great place to live has everything you could want.We have too small children and we are spolit for choice of places to go at weekend.We are off to Gold coast Saturday for a week and are really looking foward to it but for us I think Melbourne was the better option.The weather is a big factor because I acutally like the fact that we get four seasons but if you like the heat all year round maybe Melbourne is not for you.

We could not afford to do a reccy trip so we chose the suburb we have settled in pretty much by the information I found on various website and we couldn't have picked a nicer area.We are five minutes from the beach,train station, great schools and about 50 mintues from the city.

Hope this helps

Can i ask what suburb you're in - honest i'm not stalking you :D, just nosey for suburbs where people like!!

TraceyW Aug 23rd 2005 11:14 pm

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Originally Posted by bridiej
How long ago did you live in Minehead?

I used to go to boarding school not far from Minehead, at St Audries! :)


Hey...I used to work at the Butlins campsite in Minehead!! What a laugh!! :D

We used to go into town to Mr B's and The Ship (?) pub.

Ahhhhh...good times were had that summer !! ;) :D :beer:

DevMountain Aug 23rd 2005 11:16 pm

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I like living in Melbourne.

It has some damn fine Irish Pubs :beer:

Rooksie Aug 23rd 2005 11:16 pm

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Originally Posted by TraceyW
Hey...I used to work at the Butlins campsite in Minehead!! What a laugh!! :D

We used to go into town to Mr B's and The Ship (?) pub.

Ahhhhh...good times were had that summer !! ;)


get out of town!!!

Mr B's - crikey - thats going back a while!!!! its had at least 10 different names since then!!

my hubbie used to work in one of the arcades - in the tower ballroom i think but cant remember exactly - but im going back some 20+ years now!!! :o :o :o

hevs Aug 24th 2005 1:09 am

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Originally Posted by wargod
One of the reasons we 'chose' brissy is for the outdoors lifestyle (i want a pool!!) Melbourne as has been mentioned above has a more temperate climate which to be honest doesnt real appeal.
!

I live in Melbourne and have a pool, as do hundreds of other people. We use ours Between November and April and its warm enough (it does have solar heating for 3 of those months)

I get a little concerned though when people talk about the outdoor lifestyle, meaning heat?? If this is the case its not for me as i loathe putting factor 30 on all over just to go outside for 3 months let alone 6.

I have lived in WA and know now from experience that i prefer 3 cooler, wetter months where you put a fleece and maybe a scarf on as opposed to 3 scorching months where you fry if you want to go outside between 10am and 3pm. (I know Brisbane is different due to humidity therefore greeness etc) but i like seasons and a wet and a dry just don't rock my boat:))

Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide:)

wargod Aug 24th 2005 1:22 am

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Originally Posted by hevs
I live in Melbourne and have a pool, as do hundreds of other people. We use ours Between November and April and its warm enough (it does have solar heating for 3 of those months)

I get a little concerned though when people talk about the outdoor lifestyle, meaning heat?? If this is the case its not for me as i loathe putting factor 30 on all over just to go outside for 3 months let alone 6.

I have lived in WA and know now from experience that i prefer 3 cooler, wetter months where you put a fleece and maybe a scarf on as opposed to 3 scorching months where you fry if you want to go outside between 10am and 3pm. (I know Brisbane is different due to humidity therefore greeness etc) but i like seasons and a wet and a dry just don't rock my boat:))

Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide:)

Cheers for that - any chance you could gimme a clue on an half decent suburb or two - say anything upto an hour away from the CBD?

hevs Aug 24th 2005 1:28 am

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Originally Posted by wargod
Cheers for that - any chance you could gimme a clue on an half decent suburb or two - say anything upto an hour away from the CBD?

I'll PM you. Don't want to fill the area up with poms do we:D

wargod Aug 24th 2005 7:35 am

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Originally Posted by hevs
I'll PM you. Don't want to fill the area up with poms do we:D

True !!

playbunny75 Aug 24th 2005 9:55 am

Re: Changing our mind.....
 

Originally Posted by wargod
Can i ask what suburb you're in - honest i'm not stalking you :D, just nosey for suburbs where people like!!

We are Bayside I notice that you are from Bristol we are from Keynsham not sure if know it a few miles from Bristol!

MrsDagboy Aug 24th 2005 10:09 am

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Originally Posted by hevs
I live in Melbourne and have a pool, as do hundreds of other people. We use ours Between November and April and its warm enough (it does have solar heating for 3 of those months)

LOL ours is solar heated & we're already using it & its still August :D .

Wargod, I agree with aussie73, come & look for yourself, both places have a very different feel. Personally I coudnt live in Melb, I dont like it, but plenty of people do :) .

wargod Aug 24th 2005 7:15 pm

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Originally Posted by playbunny75
We are Bayside I notice that you are from Bristol we are from Keynsham not sure if know it a few miles from Bristol!


Almost neighbours - although i live just outside Brissol - in Thornbury. (dead posh us!!)

The Crow Aug 24th 2005 8:04 pm

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Originally Posted by wargod
Almost neighbours - although i live just outside Brissol - in Thornbury. (dead posh us!!)

Hi - we're from Hanham.. We started off thinking about Brisbane (though without much research). However, once we passed the TRA we researched more thoroughly and decided on Melbourne. Thought likes Hevs about the climate + the fact of nearby skiing (of some sort). Also plenty of printing companies for husband's work (hopefully). Continued searching and found more and more we liked about the city. Obviously we won't know for sure until we live there :)

CasG Aug 24th 2005 8:50 pm

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Originally Posted by hevs
I'll PM you. Don't want to fill the area up with poms do we:D


Don't suggest Willy - enough Poms here as it is :D

Bizarre Aug 24th 2005 9:05 pm

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Originally Posted by MrsDagboy
LOL ours is solar heated & we're already using it & its still August :D .

Exactly wheen in it at I was thinking. Ours is solar heated all year round and I have been in it every month that has an "R" in it and 4 that havent :D I had a dip after work this afternoon.
This is the best time of year in Brisbane IMHO.

hevs Aug 25th 2005 7:04 pm

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Originally Posted by MrsDagboy
LOL ours is solar heated & we're already using it & its still August :D .
.

Believe me if i'd let them my kids would have been in today! But i'm mean and won't let them in 19 or below ;)

However i was only replying to Wargod who said he didn't want to live in Mellie bacause he wanted a pool, i was letting him know that there are many of us who have this option:) and we live in Mellie......

Badge Aug 25th 2005 10:41 pm

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Our pool, in Melly, is not heated, and we used it between December and March. I don't think it was ready prior to that.

It is normally about 20c. I don't swim in it less than that.

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