can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Dec 10th 2006, 5:19 pm
#46
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by Margaret3
If i had lots of family around and lots of close friends , no way on this earth would i move 
I can't understand that one either
We've had two kids here and brought them up alone and i mean entirely alone, I know its gonna be tough emigrating with them, but its been tough here living with them :scared: (only joking). What i mean is its been tough doing it alone i.e bringing them up, juggling work when thier sick, etc, the worst part is when they come home with school forms , stating alternative next of kin for emergencies, and i have to write 'none', phone me at work in big capital letters. , OH and i haven't been out together for around 15 years, and i know some people will never believe that, but once you've paid for child care during the day, there's not many pennies left to pay for it at night
I would say this is one of the reasons we're in the 'Billy no mates club', coz people got fed-up asking us to their home or out and we had to refuse coz not baby sitter or no money
I can't understand that one either We've had two kids here and brought them up alone and i mean entirely alone, I know its gonna be tough emigrating with them, but its been tough here living with them :scared: (only joking). What i mean is its been tough doing it alone i.e bringing them up, juggling work when thier sick, etc, the worst part is when they come home with school forms , stating alternative next of kin for emergencies, and i have to write 'none', phone me at work in big capital letters. , OH and i haven't been out together for around 15 years, and i know some people will never believe that, but once you've paid for child care during the day, there's not many pennies left to pay for it at night
I would say this is one of the reasons we're in the 'Billy no mates club', coz people got fed-up asking us to their home or out and we had to refuse coz not baby sitter or no money 
We did and do still have a large social network in UK but the mix is different with friends all the time annoucing they were off for a 3 or 5 year stint in America (south and north) or 10 years in Asia etc. The group see this as a way of modern life ie uprooting from one country and moving to another - we are also more inclined to go and visit each other and put more effort in to the relationships.
Dec 10th 2006, 6:01 pm
#47
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Trust me I am really really close to my dad, I adore him hubbies always said the only competition he has is my dad, cause if dad needs me i'm there (it's rare but occasionally has happend, when mum left and when he had a serious accident) and vice versa dad is always there when i need him.
However staying here doesn't pay the bills, the kids are doing ok at school but they aren't happy they have friends but friends with parents who always have excuses as to why our children can't play together.
Hubby is close to his parents but not as close as he used to be for very long winded reasons.
There's really not much to do where we live and the kids growing up round us we have watched go from nice young kids to teenagers who have nothing to do, there's no clubs and they tend to smoke do drugs and drink ALOT, I know this cause every couple of months the little sods are invited over the road from me cause the parent sthere buy them all the drinks etc and then you get roudy kids who soooo cant control themselves shouting swearing and throwing up at around 2 - 3am.
It's got worse over the last few years since our first was born, i'm not saying every part of Australia is going to be saintville but it's made hubby determined to try and give our kids the best possible chance. The friends we have in Melbourne have 3 kids who are into after school clubs soccor training at weekends, have a go - which i understand is a cricket course they can do.
Their about half hour from the beach and about half hour from the hills and the kids enjoy a very outdoorsy life and have plenty to do.
Yes there are probly good areas around here but the chances of hubby getting another well paid job in an area thats got lots for the kids to do is slim i'd say. Hubby dislikes the way this country is headed, things seem to be gettign more and more expensive and ridicuoous, he hates how anyone and everyone seems to be allowed to enter this country, he hates how because of some ppl's very bad decisions we've been made a target for terrorism, the housing market is just bloody ridiculous and I agree with him.
If everyone hates it we will come home, but we'll have had the experience and given the chance of a better life all we've got.
As one out of about 3 of my good friends are in Australia I don't think we're doing too bad, and like i've said hubby has family and I have family out there.
Now all we need is my dad and we'll be sorted.
I can't believe i'm defending it, but the stress we've been under from my husbands redundancy was horrendous, it was a company that had been around longer than I have originally family owned, it got sold off to a bunch of idiots who wouldn't know their arse from their elbow and ran it into the ground, hubby had been promoted only months beforehand and because of the type of work he does most places we had been looking at were Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds etc, and no offence to anyone who lives around there but I have friends in all three places and hubby dislikes them and I wasn't overly keen.
Admittedly I didn't really want to traypse across the other side of the world but I like to think the one other most important person to me (my dad) really has no one to stay here for so I am keeping my fingers crossed he will follow us out there.
My close friends will all visit an can afford to do it more than once.
For years at a time i've had no friends or none I would consider as worth calling friends ( you know the sort call when they want something but never return your calls and leave it all up to you)
My best friend has said it'll be what you make it and that will depend on how you deal with things as they come up and if you expect problems providing you have a plan on how to deal with them or manage then your more likely to succeed
Jen
However staying here doesn't pay the bills, the kids are doing ok at school but they aren't happy they have friends but friends with parents who always have excuses as to why our children can't play together.
Hubby is close to his parents but not as close as he used to be for very long winded reasons.
There's really not much to do where we live and the kids growing up round us we have watched go from nice young kids to teenagers who have nothing to do, there's no clubs and they tend to smoke do drugs and drink ALOT, I know this cause every couple of months the little sods are invited over the road from me cause the parent sthere buy them all the drinks etc and then you get roudy kids who soooo cant control themselves shouting swearing and throwing up at around 2 - 3am.
It's got worse over the last few years since our first was born, i'm not saying every part of Australia is going to be saintville but it's made hubby determined to try and give our kids the best possible chance. The friends we have in Melbourne have 3 kids who are into after school clubs soccor training at weekends, have a go - which i understand is a cricket course they can do.
Their about half hour from the beach and about half hour from the hills and the kids enjoy a very outdoorsy life and have plenty to do.
Yes there are probly good areas around here but the chances of hubby getting another well paid job in an area thats got lots for the kids to do is slim i'd say. Hubby dislikes the way this country is headed, things seem to be gettign more and more expensive and ridicuoous, he hates how anyone and everyone seems to be allowed to enter this country, he hates how because of some ppl's very bad decisions we've been made a target for terrorism, the housing market is just bloody ridiculous and I agree with him.
If everyone hates it we will come home, but we'll have had the experience and given the chance of a better life all we've got.
As one out of about 3 of my good friends are in Australia I don't think we're doing too bad, and like i've said hubby has family and I have family out there.
Now all we need is my dad and we'll be sorted.
I can't believe i'm defending it, but the stress we've been under from my husbands redundancy was horrendous, it was a company that had been around longer than I have originally family owned, it got sold off to a bunch of idiots who wouldn't know their arse from their elbow and ran it into the ground, hubby had been promoted only months beforehand and because of the type of work he does most places we had been looking at were Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds etc, and no offence to anyone who lives around there but I have friends in all three places and hubby dislikes them and I wasn't overly keen.
Admittedly I didn't really want to traypse across the other side of the world but I like to think the one other most important person to me (my dad) really has no one to stay here for so I am keeping my fingers crossed he will follow us out there.
My close friends will all visit an can afford to do it more than once.
For years at a time i've had no friends or none I would consider as worth calling friends ( you know the sort call when they want something but never return your calls and leave it all up to you)
My best friend has said it'll be what you make it and that will depend on how you deal with things as they come up and if you expect problems providing you have a plan on how to deal with them or manage then your more likely to succeed
Jen
Dec 10th 2006, 6:09 pm
#48
Melbourne Australia
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by JenJen
My best friend has said it'll be what you make it and that will depend on how you deal with things as they come up and if you expect problems providing you have a plan on how to deal with them or manage then your more likely to succeed
Jen
Jen
Look forward to you coming to Melbourne
Dec 10th 2006, 8:00 pm
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by thebears
Good luck to you girl
Look forward to you coming to Melbourne
Look forward to you coming to Melbourne
Aww thanks thebears - I think
What area of Melbourne are you in ???
Jen
Dec 10th 2006, 8:12 pm
#50
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by JenJen
Aww thanks thebears - I think
What area of Melbourne are you in ???
Jen
What area of Melbourne are you in ???
Jen
Dec 10th 2006, 9:11 pm
#51
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by thebears
Malvern
We'll prob be on the baron side loll
Jen
Dec 10th 2006, 9:15 pm
#52
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by JenJen
Trust me I am really really close to my dad, I adore him hubbies always said the only competition he has is my dad, cause if dad needs me i'm there (it's rare but occasionally has happend, when mum left and when he had a serious accident) and vice versa dad is always there when i need him.
However staying here doesn't pay the bills, the kids are doing ok at school but they aren't happy they have friends but friends with parents who always have excuses as to why our children can't play together.
Hubby is close to his parents but not as close as he used to be for very long winded reasons.
There's really not much to do where we live and the kids growing up round us we have watched go from nice young kids to teenagers who have nothing to do, there's no clubs and they tend to smoke do drugs and drink ALOT, I know this cause every couple of months the little sods are invited over the road from me cause the parent sthere buy them all the drinks etc and then you get roudy kids who soooo cant control themselves shouting swearing and throwing up at around 2 - 3am.
It's got worse over the last few years since our first was born, i'm not saying every part of Australia is going to be saintville but it's made hubby determined to try and give our kids the best possible chance. The friends we have in Melbourne have 3 kids who are into after school clubs soccor training at weekends, have a go - which i understand is a cricket course they can do.
Their about half hour from the beach and about half hour from the hills and the kids enjoy a very outdoorsy life and have plenty to do.
Yes there are probly good areas around here but the chances of hubby getting another well paid job in an area thats got lots for the kids to do is slim i'd say. Hubby dislikes the way this country is headed, things seem to be gettign more and more expensive and ridicuoous, he hates how anyone and everyone seems to be allowed to enter this country, he hates how because of some ppl's very bad decisions we've been made a target for terrorism, the housing market is just bloody ridiculous and I agree with him.
If everyone hates it we will come home, but we'll have had the experience and given the chance of a better life all we've got.
As one out of about 3 of my good friends are in Australia I don't think we're doing too bad, and like i've said hubby has family and I have family out there.
Now all we need is my dad and we'll be sorted.
I can't believe i'm defending it, but the stress we've been under from my husbands redundancy was horrendous, it was a company that had been around longer than I have originally family owned, it got sold off to a bunch of idiots who wouldn't know their arse from their elbow and ran it into the ground, hubby had been promoted only months beforehand and because of the type of work he does most places we had been looking at were Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds etc, and no offence to anyone who lives around there but I have friends in all three places and hubby dislikes them and I wasn't overly keen.
Admittedly I didn't really want to traypse across the other side of the world but I like to think the one other most important person to me (my dad) really has no one to stay here for so I am keeping my fingers crossed he will follow us out there.
My close friends will all visit an can afford to do it more than once.
For years at a time i've had no friends or none I would consider as worth calling friends ( you know the sort call when they want something but never return your calls and leave it all up to you)
My best friend has said it'll be what you make it and that will depend on how you deal with things as they come up and if you expect problems providing you have a plan on how to deal with them or manage then your more likely to succeed
Jen
However staying here doesn't pay the bills, the kids are doing ok at school but they aren't happy they have friends but friends with parents who always have excuses as to why our children can't play together.
Hubby is close to his parents but not as close as he used to be for very long winded reasons.
There's really not much to do where we live and the kids growing up round us we have watched go from nice young kids to teenagers who have nothing to do, there's no clubs and they tend to smoke do drugs and drink ALOT, I know this cause every couple of months the little sods are invited over the road from me cause the parent sthere buy them all the drinks etc and then you get roudy kids who soooo cant control themselves shouting swearing and throwing up at around 2 - 3am.
It's got worse over the last few years since our first was born, i'm not saying every part of Australia is going to be saintville but it's made hubby determined to try and give our kids the best possible chance. The friends we have in Melbourne have 3 kids who are into after school clubs soccor training at weekends, have a go - which i understand is a cricket course they can do.
Their about half hour from the beach and about half hour from the hills and the kids enjoy a very outdoorsy life and have plenty to do.
Yes there are probly good areas around here but the chances of hubby getting another well paid job in an area thats got lots for the kids to do is slim i'd say. Hubby dislikes the way this country is headed, things seem to be gettign more and more expensive and ridicuoous, he hates how anyone and everyone seems to be allowed to enter this country, he hates how because of some ppl's very bad decisions we've been made a target for terrorism, the housing market is just bloody ridiculous and I agree with him.
If everyone hates it we will come home, but we'll have had the experience and given the chance of a better life all we've got.
As one out of about 3 of my good friends are in Australia I don't think we're doing too bad, and like i've said hubby has family and I have family out there.
Now all we need is my dad and we'll be sorted.
I can't believe i'm defending it, but the stress we've been under from my husbands redundancy was horrendous, it was a company that had been around longer than I have originally family owned, it got sold off to a bunch of idiots who wouldn't know their arse from their elbow and ran it into the ground, hubby had been promoted only months beforehand and because of the type of work he does most places we had been looking at were Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds etc, and no offence to anyone who lives around there but I have friends in all three places and hubby dislikes them and I wasn't overly keen.
Admittedly I didn't really want to traypse across the other side of the world but I like to think the one other most important person to me (my dad) really has no one to stay here for so I am keeping my fingers crossed he will follow us out there.
My close friends will all visit an can afford to do it more than once.
For years at a time i've had no friends or none I would consider as worth calling friends ( you know the sort call when they want something but never return your calls and leave it all up to you)
My best friend has said it'll be what you make it and that will depend on how you deal with things as they come up and if you expect problems providing you have a plan on how to deal with them or manage then your more likely to succeed
Jen
At the end of the first year, evaluate, then make a firm commitment the either stay or go home.
Beware of taxes here. Check out the ATO (Australia Tax Office Website). Get a good accountant. And this advice is very seriously given. We had a shockingly bad one, and of course we trusted them to handle our affairs. But now are being rescued by an extremely good one, who is unravelling the total and utter, hugely expensive mess left behind.
Also, are the company in Melbourne paying for your relocation expenses?
If not get hubby to ask them for flights, removal and rent for 6 months. They will possibly do this in an exchange of a promise from you husband to stay and work for them for one/two years, and if he leaves prior to then, you will have to return all of the money to them.
It sounds to me that your hubby's work is quite specialised, so he has a winning hand there, and should ask for these things to be included in his contract.
Dec 10th 2006, 9:54 pm
#53
Melbourne Australia
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by JenJen
Ahh ok, our friends live a little further out at Rowville
We'll prob be on the baron side loll
Jen
We'll prob be on the baron side loll
Jen
Dec 11th 2006, 2:13 am
#54
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
I've met quite a few ex-pats in Australia now, and not many have been born and bred Londoners like myself. I think if I had come from another part of the UK (one which I wasn't happy to live in) and was a Billy no Mates it would have made a significant difference. For me, Sydney isn't London-by-sea (that would be Brighton ) but it has its own attractions.
) but it has its own attractions.
Dec 11th 2006, 3:44 am
#55
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by aston man
i have often thought where you come from in england,can it make a difference how easy it is to fit in ,in oz.
for instance i live in brum and to be honest(sorry brummies),its not the best place in the u.k to live,so i would see that this can only make things easier for me..i would of thought
,,,now if i lived in the country side or by the sea.why would yopu go to oz?
being called a pom would be water off a ducks back for me.us brummies are used to people having a go..not many tv presenters from brum are there??
i wonder why...?
i once met a scouser and have spoken to others since and asked them what he told me,its flippin madness,,
he told me he did not consider himself english,more of a scouser..jeezus ,now i would say he would struggle...
cockneys,how would you go with out all those shops and entertainment..
thats why all the foreign football players like playing in the capitol..
geordies,how would you cope without newcastle united..
how many people would emigrate from Torquay..(flippin hell thats a hard word)?
well i think i am on to a winner being from brumm,..
any thoughts...???
for instance i live in brum and to be honest(sorry brummies),its not the best place in the u.k to live,so i would see that this can only make things easier for me..i would of thought
,,,now if i lived in the country side or by the sea.why would yopu go to oz?
being called a pom would be water off a ducks back for me.us brummies are used to people having a go..not many tv presenters from brum are there??
i wonder why...?
i once met a scouser and have spoken to others since and asked them what he told me,its flippin madness,,
he told me he did not consider himself english,more of a scouser..jeezus ,now i would say he would struggle...
cockneys,how would you go with out all those shops and entertainment..
thats why all the foreign football players like playing in the capitol..
geordies,how would you cope without newcastle united..
how many people would emigrate from Torquay..(flippin hell thats a hard word)?
well i think i am on to a winner being from brumm,..
any thoughts...???
No one really gives a toss what accent you have here in NZ/Australia. Thank God.
The moment you set foot in OZ, the playing field is levelled once again in that respect!
Good luck
Dec 11th 2006, 6:40 am
#56
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by thebears
Baron side? Could not find that on the Melways but do know Rowville - its not that far from us. Just past Mount Waverley and Glen Waverley towards FTG.
Jen
Dec 11th 2006, 6:44 am
#57
Melbourne Australia
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by JenJen
well it will prob be POint Cook
Jen
Jen
But Melbourne is a small place plenty of time to select other areas when you arrive
Dec 11th 2006, 7:47 am
#58
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by JenJen
well it will prob be POint Cook
Jen
Jen
Hope it works out for you.
Dec 11th 2006, 12:02 pm
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by moneypen20
Hope you don't mind me saying but from your posts on this thread, don't jump into a long rental when you arrive. One thing that seems to make people really homesick is finding themselves in a nice enough house but in an area they just don't like. Although it will cost more, do short term rentals and really do your suburb homework once here - the internet is great but does not give a true impression. We had planned on one suburb - it sounded ideal for us, when we got here we went there and all said over our dead bodies. We were very lucky and found the right place for us almost immediately but had we rented long term in that suburb we would have been miserable.
Hope it works out for you.
Hope it works out for you.
We had a really good look round in March and it seemed a really nice area, won't know for sure til we live there, the schools seemed really nice and we were very impressed when we looked round. It'll be 15 minutes away from where hubby will be working which will be nice.
I'll keep an open mind, hubby's said if i'm miserable there after a year we can look into renting near our friends who live at Rowville, their absolute stars bless them but why they want us living on their laps I don't know but I do know they would look after us. Hubby of course doesn't want us relying too much on them at least not to begin with to see if we can manage to cope without them propping us up.
Thanks for your concern though.
The bears do you know why Fraser is moving? did he not like living in Point Cook ? You know so many people have mentioned Fraser to me and I've never seen this guy on here lolll
Jen
Dec 11th 2006, 12:57 pm
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Re: can where you come from in the uk make a difference
Originally Posted by Budowsky
Yeah, it can. It's nice when someone actually tells you they like your Northern accent.
No one really gives a toss what accent you have here in NZ/Australia. Thank God.
The moment you set foot in OZ, the playing field is levelled once again in that respect!
Good luck
No one really gives a toss what accent you have here in NZ/Australia. Thank God.
The moment you set foot in OZ, the playing field is levelled once again in that respect!
Good luck
I'm sure the popularity/unpopularity of certain regional accents in the UK is well documented and known. eg Scots, Geordie regularly near the top; Midlands (partic Brummie), Scouse and Cockney less popular. Disagree if you like, don't kill the messenger, I'm just re-iterating what the studies have shown (and I'm not talking a Daily Express or Daily Mail poll but academic surveys).
So, yes, just from an accent point of view where you come from will have an influence plus the other points made eg by Badge.
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