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ndaltonb Sep 18th 2002 6:57 am

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
Hi Don,

Sorry, don't understand (probably not hip enough :) )? What is 'third level' swearing?

Nigel


Originally posted by pleasancefamily:

What I personally object to is spurious 'third level' swearing but that seems to be moderated already.

Cheers - Don


ndaltonb Sep 18th 2002 7:07 am

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
This seems a sensible suggestion,

Would it be useful to have to pick a subject when starting a thread. It could be split as follows
- Visa -how to, timings, whoppee I've got it, etc
- Getting there everything you need to know about getting to Aus/NZ, packers, pets, flights, car imports etc
- Aus/NZ life once you have got there, what's it really like
- Other absolutely anything else

Then we could have at the front of every post
- Visa
- Going
- Aus/NZ Life
- Other

I'll ask Paul (admin) if this is feasible.

Nigel db


Originally posted by nixstuff:
Either the forum should be carefully (NOT heavily) moderated OR SPLIT. There should be two main sections - NEWS AND INFORMATION, and YOUR OPINIONS, with perhaps a clear statement to accompany the OPINION section like 'The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent..' etc etc.


ptlabs Sep 18th 2002 7:21 am

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
I personally do not think the Forum should be split. If a person wants to post rubbish in a split forum, he/she can simply cross-post the crap to all other forums.

Nigel's suggestion seems logical, although it's more to do with self-categorization rather than moderation.

Perhaps the categories for tagging a thread can be multiply selected instead, as sometimes a thread can encompass more than one category.

Just my $0.02

Peter


Originally posted by ndaltonb:
This seems a sensible suggestion,

Would it be useful to have to pick a subject when starting a thread. It could be split as follows
- Visa -how to, timings, whoppee I've got it, etc
- Getting there everything you need to know about getting to Aus/NZ, packers, pets, flights, car imports etc
- Aus/NZ life once you have got there, what's it really like
- Other absolutely anything else

Then we could have at the front of every post
- Visa
- Going
- Aus/NZ Life
- Other

I'll ask Paul (admin) if this is feasible.

Nigel db


Only changed my quote. Promise. Nigel db

I believe you, and I believe you forgot to insert the "/" between Aus and NZ

Don Sep 18th 2002 7:35 am

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 

Originally posted by ndaltonb:
Hi Don,
Sorry, don't understand (probably not hip enough :) )? What is 'third level' swearing?
Nigel

Probably betraying my age, but (so as not to offend anyone I hope)

OK: bl***y, sh*t

Not OK: bas****, c***, wa**** etc

mxqth Sep 18th 2002 8:15 am

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
new rules...ok, not too tight though

Grub Sep 18th 2002 10:37 am

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
It's really buggin me- what was Mr Flibble out of now? I seem to remember it being out of something v. v. funny?

lizzie Sep 18th 2002 12:57 pm

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
As someone who is headed for NZ (visa in the post!), the immigration process was a relatively simple one. I have, however, found this forum extremely useful as regards "off topic" info, i.e. house prices, nice areas, good schools, flight info, etc. and the humour which often accompanies these posts lightens the days whilst we sit and wait. I certainly don't want to see any of that removed.

I'm not sure that the problem is such a big one. Having said that, the majority of info on here is for those headed for Oz which, for obvious reasons, I don't often read. I have though reported one or two posts for moderation myself in the past which contained racist or unnecessary abuse. All I would say, if you are going to start categorising posts, don't forget us headed to NZ!

Lizzie:)

ndaltonb Sep 18th 2002 5:12 pm

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
My fault Lizzie. Get a bit tunnel vision sometimes

If/When we go down category route, I'll make sure it also refers to NZ

Nigel db



Originally posted by lizzie:
All I would say, if you are going to start categorising posts, don't forget us headed to NZ!

Lizzie:)


ndaltonb Sep 18th 2002 5:19 pm

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
Don,

Forgive me but serious question. If there is a posting with the word "bastard", etc. Should
- the whole post be removed?
- just the bit (paragraph or sentence, it all depends) with the word in it
- just replace "bastard" with "bas****"

I sort of feel "bas****" just as bad as "bastard" as we all know what is actually meant.

Really looking for help here people.

Nigel db



Originally posted by pleasancefamily:
Probably betraying my age, but (so as not to offend anyone I hope)

OK: bl***y, sh*t

Not OK: bas****, c***, wa**** etc


Don Sep 18th 2002 5:39 pm

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 

Originally posted by ndaltonb:
Don,

Forgive me but serious question. If there is a posting with the word "bastard", etc. Should
- the whole post be removed?
- just the bit (paragraph or sentence, it all depends) with the word in it
- just replace "bastard" with "bas****"

I sort of feel "bas****" just as bad as "bastard" as we all know what is actually meant.

Really looking for help here people.

Nigel db



I don't know the answer. But for me, the clue would be in my original post: is the swearing 'spurious' . If the swearword in question is of some relevance, it would be OK by me. Eg the handle 'Pommie Bastard' would be fine as it refers to a well known Aussie phrase and is not (I think) calculated to offend. Another eg, where the sweary bit is clearly amusing, it would be OK.

But just swearing badly because a poster got angry or frustrated would be off limits.

But I don't know the answer, just speaking for myself and I'm not particularly un-sweary at times.

Sandra Sep 18th 2002 5:59 pm

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 

Originally posted by pleasancefamily:


I don't know the answer. But for me, the clue would be in my original post: is the swearing 'spurious' . If the swearword in question is of some relevance, it would be OK by me. Eg the handle 'Pommie Bastard' would be fine as it refers to a well known Aussie phrase and is not (I think) calculated to offend. Another eg, where the sweary bit is clearly amusing, it would be OK.

But just swearing badly because a poster got angry or frustrated would be off limits.

But I don't know the answer, just speaking for myself and I'm not particularly un-sweary at times.

I am with this post - don't know the answer - but as a thought, if the swearword is directed towards another poster or her/his opinion it is usually unnessary even if it is star*****'ed. But even this level gets rather difficult, so I have voted for unmoderated (beyond what we have currently - the opportunity to ask for an individual post to be removed because of a crass or offensive post) because it is a case for individual opinion and we can choose to read/not read.

MrFlibbleUK Sep 18th 2002 6:23 pm

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
Nicky...MrFlibble was from an episode of Red Dwarf....Quarantine I think...it was when Rimmer went doolally and had a penguin hand puppet that had hex ray vision (it was either that or me called King Potato).

For everyone else who hasnt seen Red Dwarf....then apologies for it making no sense whatsoever!

pommie bastard Sep 19th 2002 5:10 am

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 

Originally posted by ndaltonb:
Don,

Forgive me but serious question. If there is a posting with the word "bastard", etc. Should
- the whole post be removed?
- just the bit (paragraph or sentence, it all depends) with the word in it
- just replace "bastard" with "bas****"

I sort of feel "bas****" just as bad as "bastard" as we all know what is actually meant.

Really looking for help here people.

Nigel db



Now come on theres nothing wrong with my name , it took me time to get used to it , but quite like it now all the Aussies use it when talking to Poms its a a nick name .
Most abuse in the English langauge only has 4 letters in each word , so bastard is okay.
Stop being so boring most Brits can take a bit of banter , if not they should stay at home .

:D

ndaltonb Sep 19th 2002 11:25 am

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
No worries PB, wouldn't dream of changing the PB brand :)

Just trying to get feedback on other use of swearing. By the way, thanks to PB, Sandra and Don for your feedback.

Nigel

Originally posted by pommie bastard:
Now come on theres nothing wrong with my name , ...... all the Aussies use it when talking to Poms its a a nick name .
....... most Brits can take a bit of banter , if not they should stay at home .
:D


Cantila Sep 19th 2002 4:14 pm

Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: Proposed NEW Britishexpat Forum Rules. Open until end Sept
 
A. Agreed

B. "this includes posts related to humour, sport, house prices, quality of life, etc." - no - these things are relative to the commity and lifestyle

C. No

D. "any thread that is started by a post which is simply, in the opinion of the moderator, meant to convince people to go elsewhere, or stay at home" AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! There is no benefit to having someone continously post who simply whats to irritate people.

E. AGREED

F. AGREED

G. AGREED

H. AGREED


Thanks Nigel


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