Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
Jun 26th 2014, 9:13 am
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
Sorry to hear about your plans being mucked up.
Can I just check I am reading this right? It says changes as of 24 June in the title, but the changes aren't really until 26 October are they? Mate is flying into Sydney on 15 October, back to BKK on 21 October, so he won't be affected will he?
Can I just check I am reading this right? It says changes as of 24 June in the title, but the changes aren't really until 26 October are they? Mate is flying into Sydney on 15 October, back to BKK on 21 October, so he won't be affected will he?
I actually had a call with a hilarious guy from TG about this...he is trying to get me the last seat on the morning flight which would connect to my LHR flight...he thinks it will be difficult to convince head office but somehow I think it's going to happen.
Jun 26th 2014, 11:49 pm
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
Jul 3rd 2014, 2:18 pm
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
I would love some help and/or suggestions with an itinerary please folks. I knew what I was doing with Star Alliance but just spent a couple of hours failing with the BA & Qantas searches & wondering where I am going wrong or if availability just isn't there.
I am looking for a seat for one adult leaving from Sydney (but will fly to another Oz city if it helps) going to London (prefer LHR but LGW will do). Want to leave around 16th Oct (can be flexible by 4 days either way) and spend about 3 weeks, so come back around 8 Nov (again, flexible). I have a big stash of US Miles & can go Business or First. Getting there on 16th Oct doesn't seem to be a problem but getting back does - only downgrades on offer. Suggestions for alternative routes gratefully received :-)
I am looking for a seat for one adult leaving from Sydney (but will fly to another Oz city if it helps) going to London (prefer LHR but LGW will do). Want to leave around 16th Oct (can be flexible by 4 days either way) and spend about 3 weeks, so come back around 8 Nov (again, flexible). I have a big stash of US Miles & can go Business or First. Getting there on 16th Oct doesn't seem to be a problem but getting back does - only downgrades on offer. Suggestions for alternative routes gratefully received :-)
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Jul 3rd 2014, 10:48 pm
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
I would love some help and/or suggestions with an itinerary please folks. I knew what I was doing with Star Alliance but just spent a couple of hours failing with the BA & Qantas searches & wondering where I am going wrong or if availability just isn't there.
I am looking for a seat for one adult leaving from Sydney (but will fly to another Oz city if it helps) going to London (prefer LHR but LGW will do). Want to leave around 16th Oct (can be flexible by 4 days either way) and spend about 3 weeks, so come back around 8 Nov (again, flexible). I have a big stash of US Miles & can go Business or First. Getting there on 16th Oct doesn't seem to be a problem but getting back does - only downgrades on offer. Suggestions for alternative routes gratefully received :-)
I am looking for a seat for one adult leaving from Sydney (but will fly to another Oz city if it helps) going to London (prefer LHR but LGW will do). Want to leave around 16th Oct (can be flexible by 4 days either way) and spend about 3 weeks, so come back around 8 Nov (again, flexible). I have a big stash of US Miles & can go Business or First. Getting there on 16th Oct doesn't seem to be a problem but getting back does - only downgrades on offer. Suggestions for alternative routes gratefully received :-)
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LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] DXB Dubai Metro / Dubai Intl AE = DXB DWC [OMDB] SUN 09 Nov 2014 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------ QF 10 LHR 12:35 DXB 23:30 FS0 CS1 WS2 YS9 BA 107 LHR 12:45 DXB 23:35 FS1 CS0 WS0 YS9
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DXB Dubai Metro / Dubai Intl AE = DXB DWC [OMDB] SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] MON 10 Nov 2014 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------ QF 2 DXB 09:55 SYD 06:50 +1 FS1 CS0 WS0 YS9
Jul 4th 2014, 12:06 am
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
2 for 1 on LifeMiles transfers til July 17. (USD15 per 1000)
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/tra/pr...f.aspx?D=DOF81
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/tra/pr...f.aspx?D=DOF81
Jul 4th 2014, 9:30 am
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
Thanks so much BC, have now downloaded KVSTool again - seems that's the only way to go for a definitive answer....I'm trying to book those seats but the call centres are backed up due to weather conditions in the US, having no luck getting through. As for fuel surcharges, I'll just have to drink my weight in champagne to compensate for them.
I notice your screen shot gives the number of seats available, mine just gives a plus or minus next to the class type - what do I have to do to see the numbers?
I notice your screen shot gives the number of seats available, mine just gives a plus or minus next to the class type - what do I have to do to see the numbers?
Jul 4th 2014, 9:35 am
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
It depends which method you use. If you use Awards/OneWorld you only get + or -. If you use the BA or JL OneWorld methods it shows you how many seats are available. You'll need a BA or JL account to use either.
Jul 4th 2014, 12:52 pm
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
Thanks, I've got BA so I'll try that. You're a gem :-)
Jul 5th 2014, 1:54 am
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
Spent 4 hours trying to get through yesterday but no luck (bad weather in US, phone systems jammed). That seat on the QF2 now gone :-( Trying alternative routings but not coming up with anything...further inspiration gratefully received.
Jul 5th 2014, 3:16 am
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Or if you want an F sector on the MH A380 and are happy to spend some hours in KL.
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
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LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] KUL Kuala Lumpur Metro / Intl MY = KUL SZB [WMKK] SAT 08 Nov 2014 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------ BA 428 LHR 06:55 AMS 09:15 FS/ CS9 WS/ YS9 -> MH 17 AMS 12:00 KUL 07:00 +1 FS/ CS+ WS/ YS+
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KUL Kuala Lumpur Metro / Intl MY = KUL SZB [WMKK] SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] SUN 09 Nov 2014 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------ MH 141 KUL 09:00 SYD 20:15 FS/ CS1 WS/ YS2
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
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LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] KUL Kuala Lumpur Metro / Intl MY = KUL SZB [WMKK] SUN 09 Nov 2014 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------ BA 304 LHR 07:20 CDG 09:40 CS9 WS/ YS9 -> MH 21 CDG 12:00 KUL 07:00 +1 FS+ CS- WS/ YS+
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KUL Kuala Lumpur Metro / Intl MY = KUL SZB [WMKK] SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] MON 10 Nov 2014 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------ MH 123 KUL 23:30 SYD 10:45 +1 FS/ CS1 WS/ YS2
Jul 5th 2014, 1:47 pm
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
I grovel at your feet BC, you are my hero. I am learning a bit more each time, I'd tried that routing but didn't know to switch the 'Method' setting from Awards / Oneworld to Awards / BA - so these flights weren't showing. All booked now, couldn't have done it without you :-) Thankyou so much.
Jul 7th 2014, 3:20 pm
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
2 for 1 on LifeMiles transfers til July 17. (USD15 per 1000)
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/tra/pr...f.aspx?D=DOF81
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/tra/pr...f.aspx?D=DOF81
Jul 8th 2014, 3:04 am
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
Bcworld, can I have tonight's lottery numbers, next year's grand national winner and your view on the likelihood of a 100% bonus on buying lifemiles within the next couple of months? I have no lifemiles although I know I could buy then transfer back and forth, and need 166k, that's with the max money possible. Not sure whether to jump on this or not (and cope with the inevitable meltdown from my bank over repeated transactions). Looking at a multicity for April 2015.
I'd be a little cautious about the 166k as well. You may be limited to 150k per calendar year including bonus miles. 2 accounts might be safer buying but trickier booking of course.
Jul 8th 2014, 4:29 am
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
Hi, I've been lurking on this thread since December 2013, as I was intending to make a big trip when I finished my degree in May this year. I therefore took advantage of various US Air Dividend Miles promos and now have 200,250 miles. My itinerary is London, North Carolina, Buenos Aires , Perth (Australia).
At the time I was intending to make a Star Miles round-the-world booking for 200,000 miles in business (or buy more miles and go First for 300,000). However illness delayed my degree and prevented my booking until now. I tried to keep up with the change-over to OneWorld...the awards looked reasonable, e.g. UK to US for 100,000 miles. But I just went online and I need 220,000 miles for UK-US return *alone*! In other words more miles than it was going to cost to go round the world.
This seems to mean I have wasted several thousand dollars on buying these miles.
Have they really more than doubled how many miles you need? Or have I missed something along the way with all these changes?
At the time I was intending to make a Star Miles round-the-world booking for 200,000 miles in business (or buy more miles and go First for 300,000). However illness delayed my degree and prevented my booking until now. I tried to keep up with the change-over to OneWorld...the awards looked reasonable, e.g. UK to US for 100,000 miles. But I just went online and I need 220,000 miles for UK-US return *alone*! In other words more miles than it was going to cost to go round the world.
This seems to mean I have wasted several thousand dollars on buying these miles.
Have they really more than doubled how many miles you need? Or have I missed something along the way with all these changes?
Jul 8th 2014, 4:40 am
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Re: Business Class Airfares to UK / Europe - approx $2700 - $2800 rtn!
Hi, I've been lurking on this thread since December 2013, as I was intending to make a big trip when I finished my degree in May this year. I therefore took advantage of various US Air Dividend Miles promos and now have 200,250 miles. My itinerary is London, North Carolina, Buenos Aires , Perth (Australia).
At the time I was intending to make a Star Miles round-the-world booking for 200,000 miles in business (or buy more miles and go First for 300,000). However illness delayed my degree and prevented my booking until now. I tried to keep up with the change-over to OneWorld...the awards looked reasonable, e.g. UK to US for 100,000 miles. But I just went online and I need 220,000 miles for UK-US return *alone*! In other words more miles than it was going to cost to go round the world.
This seems to mean I have wasted several thousand dollars on buying these miles.
Have they really more than doubled how many miles you need? Or have I missed something along the way with all these changes?
At the time I was intending to make a Star Miles round-the-world booking for 200,000 miles in business (or buy more miles and go First for 300,000). However illness delayed my degree and prevented my booking until now. I tried to keep up with the change-over to OneWorld...the awards looked reasonable, e.g. UK to US for 100,000 miles. But I just went online and I need 220,000 miles for UK-US return *alone*! In other words more miles than it was going to cost to go round the world.
This seems to mean I have wasted several thousand dollars on buying these miles.
Have they really more than doubled how many miles you need? Or have I missed something along the way with all these changes?
First up, *A RTW in business was always 300k and first 400k. I don't see it on the award chart anymore so perhaps it's no longer available?
As for looking online, you should ignore any numbers you see there. You are seeing various levels of US/AA awards that are confusing you. Stick to the numbers displayed on the award chart:
http://www.usairways.com/en-US/Resou...wardtravel.pdf
None of the numbers relevant to most of us have changed since this thread started...it's long overdue actually and will happen one day...for all those sitting on stashes of miles (like me).
You might need to compromise on your itinerary and book some side trips separately if you wish to visit all the places you mention. Some rules to bear in mind, none of which are new:
- Your itinerary can have ONE stopover in addition to the destination
- You can't travel from Europe to Australia via North America
Last edited by bcworld; Jul 8th 2014 at 4:42 am.