Simone

No (22) (started working parttime/hols at 15)

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What rubbish Mike!

A) My philosopical point was just that. WHY is it plain rubbish? Many people from all parts of the world act philosophically.
B) What was that last quote suppose to mean? Sounded like something you would write in a Australian script or something you tried to say to your Aussie mates but then got laughed out of court. In fact, it sounds like something you made up to try and rubbish a theory - very poor, very poor indeed.

Actually, I think you'd like me to revert to type so that you can ridicule me but when I get serious, in fact when ever anyone gets serious you resort to weak insults, or even silence eg The Crone.

I notice you do not constructively criticise what I actually wrote which was based on someone elses view. I think that as we are all different, we are all entitled to lax lyrical about identities, as you do with the English identity, People wax lyrical about their Scottish and Welsh identiity. Strangely enough, there is not much of a corresponding English one - I could recall my tutor from University but I've said it before and I won't repeat myself.

Remember: I have lived in parts of Australia that many have never seen or immersed themselves in - I am entitled to have an opinion on things which I have experienced.

I get annoyed with you because you criticised what you had no direct experience of, and could only draw on your narrow life as a professional, which is (apparently) your biggest single weakness. By being (apparently) obsessed by being a middle class professional you do not then enjoy, or learn anything else that life has to offer, like I do, and therefore you ostracise yourself from ....just about anyone..

I gave you credit for some of the theories, but these could also be wishful thinking on your part.

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hardly. He is just taking the piss out of you, on the very terms that you espouse. Come on, be constructive. The end result is that we are all different. Oz Tennis will continue to be popular and well liked, and happy in both the UK and Scotland, and you will still be bitter and, I suspect,a lonely, misunderstood man.

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wombat42

Thanks for the support Badge.

Quinkana

Limp on your own crutch?

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Of course, That was anti-Mike, not Anti-Wombat. (I'm not sure if you're mad with me or mad with the post).

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Toukon

You shouldn't generalize Brits as a whole. The thing is, due to a number of reasons (ie, government benefits, populations), middle class life in England is not as easy as middle class life in Australia, which makes it harder to be as positive - its not like it is in the genes... after all, most Australians have British ancestry. Since the majority of people are middle class, this influences mentality of many. But I'm sure there are "well off" Brits who are more optimistic about life than "middle class" Australians. I mean, people say money can't buy happiness, but it can buy safer surroundings, more pleasant communities, and can pay the bills without worry.

wombat42

Alright Limpdick.

anya4oz

I think the problem in the UK is largely to do with a general lack of pride, that seems to apply to everything, but especially the work ethic.

For example, in the UK, waiting at table is considered a poorly paid job for students & those who are desperate and can't get any other work. Whereas in Italy, being a waiter is considered as prestigious as being a Doctor: I can remember when I lived in Milan, my Mom's friend being thrilled that her beautiful, talented daughter was going to marry a waiter.

Only this morning, in my local supermarket here in Oz, I was chatting to the 'Saturday lad' at the checkout. As he packed my shopping he told me that, although he is to go to Uni to study physics, when the supermarket offered him the opportunity to do a 'Leadership' training course, he jumped at the chance, as it would help him do a better job now, and be good preparation for later life. The kid was just as proud of his job serving at the till, as of his future career as a scientist.

It's *that* attitude that the Uk needs to get back - and fast.

Anya.

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Mike

I, for one, am extremely offended by your using the word 'GAY' as a term of abuse in this way. Please do the decent thing and apologise before you cause further offence.

Anya.

anya4oz

Merlot,

I wouldn't invite futher comment from the homophobic Mr Stanton if I were you. I'm waiting for him to pick on the Jews next - then, I can promise, he really *will* be in trouble.

Trust Mike to barge in on a sensible discussion with his own brand of hatred and sh*t stirring. I (along with many others, no doubt) was enjoying this thread, until his highly offensive post appeared.

It is people like that, I am sure, who add to your feeling that you want to leave the UK.

Good luck!
Anya.

anya4oz

Well said OT. You'll see that Stanton also retains the homophobia that most sensible adults in the UK (and, in fact, the civilised world) grew out of years ago and that is considered unacceptable in intelligent circles these days (the very circles that Stanton *claims* to move in - bet he's popular, then! ).

The Wolfenden report must have just passed him by..... ah well, it was published as far back as 1957...

Anya.

wombat42

l want a formal apology now Stanton.

Bordy

Theres more chance of him taking Aus citizenship.

ABCDiamond

He already did take Australian Citizenship