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shade8 Aug 30th 2007 11:03 am

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 
W e ahve many Scottish friends and I think it must be in your blood for drinking.
Is the grass greener it is a better way of life and like in the UK where you are out FRi-Sunday getting smashed as not much else to do here is much better unless like a lot of people want to live exactly the same life as back home.Live near a pub they want all the same shops n food no point moving really.Go to the Pub In Clarkson in Perth makes you laugh all the guys in thier soccer shirts holding up the bar bet they did the same back home from leaving school.

You can only try when you come over but expect to be homesick for at least 2 years. Good luck.:thumbsup:

debbie222 Aug 30th 2007 11:35 am

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by GILDOC (Post 5253638)
As above really, very early stages of thinking of emigrating. We have a good life here in scotland, family all around us, hubby works full time, i work part time, we have a 2 year old daughter and trying for another baby, and live in a small community where we know everyone. However, there are no opportunities for our children where we are, we dont want them growing up in the ned culture here, we hate the uk attitide to alcohol, its a part of life here and think the attitide. We like the thought of bringing our children up with an active lifestyle being involved in sports, being in the outdoors (ie its doesnt pee down of rain for 360 days of the year) and being amongst friendly people. Would like to live in a smallish community near to beach. So is it worth emigrating or shoudl we stay put and be content?

Hi there

As already mentioned, do a list of pros and cons...also, ask yourself what do you want to gain from your move?? Also, research, research and more research!!!

I am at the very beginning of our application, but this is after a year of thinking about should we go / stay - we decided to take the plunge! However, my view on it all is that you only get one life...sometimes you have to take a chance!

Good luck, in the end you will make the right decission for you and your family. :)

ellie10990 Aug 30th 2007 12:04 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by GILDOC (Post 5253638)
As above really, very early stages of thinking of emigrating. We have a good life here in scotland, family all around us, hubby works full time, i work part time, we have a 2 year old daughter and trying for another baby, and live in a small community where we know everyone. However, there are no opportunities for our children where we are, we dont want them growing up in the ned culture here, we hate the uk attitide to alcohol, its a part of life here and think the attitide. We like the thought of bringing our children up with an active lifestyle being involved in sports, being in the outdoors (ie its doesnt pee down of rain for 360 days of the year) and being amongst friendly people. Would like to live in a smallish community near to beach. So is it worth emigrating or shoudl we stay put and be content?

hi
I t has to be your decision,I think you will find that the drinking problems are the same here too.
on the plus side yes the weather is much better and the beaches are lovely,plenty of sports to do

however I miss the fact that our kids played out with their friends after school/weekends in the uk which doesnt happen here
My husband works long hours and hardly sees the kids for less than he earned in the uk so there are downsides too
good luck with your decision

Vim Fuego Aug 30th 2007 12:05 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 5255130)
I picked up the alcohol thing too.

Yesterday I went to the doctors and while she was filling in my medical history she asked how much I drank every day. When I said I had perhaps 3 or 4 bottles of beer a week she said I'll put 2 per day to make you sound normal :blink::ohmy::D

The Docs normally double the estimate ...

As usual, it depends on how big the bottle is ... I like a 750ml Chimay or Three Monts ... I think that is what the F1-11s use in their Dump And Burn ;)

Which reminds me, should get a practice fly-over this lunchtime in preparation for tomorrow's festivities ... mmmmmmarvellous.

Bushpig Aug 30th 2007 12:07 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 
I think you only live once, don't go through life regretting things you haven't done, my mum and dad were going to move to oz but bottled it last minute, loads of older people say "if I was 10ect years younger I'd do it". i'm lovin it here, i've only been here nearly 4 months but we've got 2 pups, bought a house with a pool and spend every day after school playing with the kids init. The kids are happier, for the first time in years I had a sunny hot birthday, yesterday. ref the "grass greener?" I wish, no matter how much I water it, it still looks burnt.

soapy© Aug 30th 2007 12:07 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by Vim Fuego (Post 5255122)

In short - If you're miserable in the UK then you will be miserable anywhere.

Also, if you have a happy comfortable life where you are and the only reason for up-sticksing is to escape some factor that is more to do with human nature than location then you should think twice.

some real stuff in that;)


we left glasgow thinking if it works it works. i think you really have to be a bit lucky for it to work or just be strong enough to ignore the heart strings of home being tugged.

we have made a far better life for us out here, but its more down to hard work from us.

as for running away from all the shit you listed? well its not in your face as much here, but its here!

noone on the forum can really answer your questions, because none of us get the same thing from moving. it will be up to you in the end.

the only question we asked ourselves was..........what have we got to loose?
and that answer was money!

good luck

soapy:)

soapy© Aug 30th 2007 12:09 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 5255130)
I picked up the alcohol thing too.

Yesterday I went to the doctors and while she was filling in my medical history she asked how much I drank every day. When I said I had perhaps 3 or 4 bottles of beer a week she said I'll put 2 per day to make you sound normal :blink::ohmy::D

so it wasnt your local doctor? they know you could never be normal:p:lol:

ellie10990 Aug 30th 2007 12:10 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by TELLYADDICT (Post 5253914)
Hi

I agree with traceyandchris.

We live in Scotland also, no kids. We made a list in March. In summary, we want a good social life that doesn't revolve around just getting drunk in the local pub, we want to eat out well without having to take out a second mortgage, we want to live in a more chilled out community, kids in Oz appear to be a wee bit more innocent & active & less threatening (in our opinion) and finally, I don't like what the future holds for nursing here and would prefer to work in Oz.

This list has been invaluable and we refer to it any time one of us has a bit of a wobbly ... "are we doing the right thing?". I may even laminate it!!

Personally, I would prefer to try, fail & return rather than 'bottle it' & regret it when I'm older.

Make sure you research well & the very best of luck, whatever your decision.

Slainte
TA :)

yes there are plenty of places to eat out here.I cant say that Ive noticed that they are particularly cheaper than uk
be aware that nursing pay is a lot less than the uk and you get less holidays.Most places will start you on a 3 month contract too
Also if you want less than 4 days you will most likely end up as a casual which means that there will be no sick pay/holiday pay
For me the lovely scenery and weather make up for this

Wendy Aug 30th 2007 12:11 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by soapy (Post 5255243)
so it wasnt your local doctor? they know you could never be normal:p:lol:

It was actually :p But she was German, probably explains it :D

soapy© Aug 30th 2007 12:16 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by ellie10990 (Post 5255245)
be aware that nursing pay is a lot less than the uk and you get less holidays.Most places will start you on a 3 month contract too
Also if you want less than 4 days you will most likely end up as a casual which means that there will be no sick pay/holiday pay
For me the lovely scenery and weather make up for this

i have to agree, most nurses out here moan just as much as they did in the uk, and for the same reasons too;)

birdynumnum Aug 30th 2007 12:34 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by Vim Fuego (Post 5255122)
Aye, you've got to have realistic expections. I reckon if you emigrate expecting to escape something (either within yourself or external) then you are setting yourself up for failure.

In short - If you're miserable in the UK then you will be miserable anywhere.

Also, if you have a happy comfortable life where you are and the only reason for up-sticksing is to escape some factor that is more to do with human nature than location then you should think twice.

I agree with Mr.V
I'd also advise a peruse of the mbtuk forum, gives another side of peoples experiences and views of both here and UK having had a stint away.
I wouldnt say the grass is greener here, just different.
Also, look long n hard and what you do have where you are which sounds alot against what you hope to gain by moving here.

Streaks Aug 30th 2007 12:58 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 
I think we've all been where you are, if it's something you keep thinking about then there's your answer, otherwise it'll always be a what if? it's whether you've got the bottle to go with it (and you do need a lot of it!). Good luck what ever you decide (and yes we made the move 5 months ago, my husband feels really settled, kids are getting there and I think I'm ok just didn't think the reality of actually leaving people I loved would hit me as hard as it has) maybe come over for a holiday and get the 'feel' for it.
S xx

Amazulu Aug 30th 2007 1:01 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 
Yes.

walla Aug 30th 2007 1:09 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by GILDOC (Post 5253638)
As above really, very early stages of thinking of emigrating. We have a good life here in scotland, family all around us, hubby works full time, i work part time, we have a 2 year old daughter and trying for another baby, and live in a small community where we know everyone. However, there are no opportunities for our children where we are, we dont want them growing up in the ned culture here, we hate the uk attitide to alcohol, its a part of life here and think the attitide. We like the thought of bringing our children up with an active lifestyle being involved in sports, being in the outdoors (ie its doesnt pee down of rain for 360 days of the year) and being amongst friendly people. Would like to live in a smallish community near to beach. So is it worth emigrating or shoudl we stay put and be content?

It all depends on what fertiliser one uses and a lot depends on the rain.

TELLYADDICT1 Aug 30th 2007 1:15 pm

Re: The big question - is the grass greener?
 

Originally Posted by soapy (Post 5255252)
i have to agree, most nurses out here moan just as much as they did in the uk, and for the same reasons too;)

........ but I prefer to do my moaning in the sunshine, yeah!!! .:thumbup:

and ellie,
thanks for your post, please be reassured that I've factored in drop in salary. S'ok.
TA :)


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