EvannTel

But which Chateau Neuf de Pape? As you says its a region, so saying you like is saying I like champagne. There is chateau neuf and there is chateau neuf and some, as you say, are $$$$$$$

paddyo

I'll check the label, but I have never yet had a bad bottle of the stuff and it doesn't get a good reputation for nothing.

vauxhallmonterey

Selvapiana Chianti Rufine, saw a 1992 I think - apparently about 12 pounds a bottle in the UK.

jorgon

Don't forget to try the cleanskins.
The dearer the better.
It's pot luck, but you can end up drinking a wine you couldn't otherwise afford.

deb68

Just necking a delightful box of Coolabah 'Dolce Rosso' probably this years vintage, but hey i am no wine nut

Perthbum

South African Shiraz is my favorite, I like most Aussie wines. think French wines are crap and very overrated by wine snobs.

jorgon

Which ones have you tried?

Alfresco

Nederburg Baronne is my fave S.A. red. Try it if you can find it here.

$6 in S.A. - $18.50 in Oz.

http://www.africashop.com.au/shop/in...productId=1248

paddyo

Well if thats not a defensive statement I don't know what is. What is a wine snob exactly and why do you think that ALL French wines are crap?? Irrespective of your taste in wines and favoritism for particular region or country their is no denying that some French wines are superb, but, like ALL countries some are not up to the mark.

MiekeNL

rofl: what a strange statement to make

Perthbum

Loads, never had a decent red yet compared to South African and Aussie reds, it is a myth that France does good reds, give me a Rioja from Spain a Shiraz from S.Africa any day.
That's not to say that some French white wines aren't good, because there are some, but for the most part, they need some work.

Perthbum

Will try and get a bottle, been on the wine route Stellenbosch paarl etc, is that area the most stunning are in the world

paddyo

Not sure how you make that statement, I have drunk good reds from almost every good wine producing country, have toured France, South Africa and Aussie vineyards and there is no way I would come up with such an uneducated statement like you did! Thats uneducated as in wine tasting rather then general education by the way!! But..........

Perthbum

Haaa, that's the wine snob in you coming out, if you read many wine experts views on French red's you will find that most agree that are very overrated and expensive except for the real expensive stuff (and even those sometimes), they are usually thin, and lacking in body.
I just find them vastly overrated.

MiekeNL

I think most wine growers will have some exceptionally good wine. Whether it agrees with your palate or not is another thing, but seriously writing it off shows ignorance imo