Australia's terror alert level raised to high
Sep 16th 2014, 4:53 am
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Re: Australia's terror alert level raised to high
By contrast, your comments just come across as a sweeping contempt for Australia and Australians and mostly have little to do with the subject under discussion. By the way, there a loads of 'people of colour' who are Australians - in fact, they are the first Australians
We have business dealings in the G20 firing line, and further business dealings 2 mins walk from where a Mosque is being built,much to the total horror of locals. So we are noticing plenty of reaction from the people we deal with daily. Hence my comments.
Sep 16th 2014, 5:30 am
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Re: Australia's terror alert level raised to high
That's an interesting point, commonwealth, and one that I mainly agree with. The rider is that unfortunately sometimes we do have to be cautious (which is level of fear I guess), such as when specific advice is given to avoid travelling to certain countries, or to stay away from large gatherings or places frequented by Westerners in particular countries.
The upsetting of such processes is the goal of terrorists and a definite win for those on that side.
Meanwhile fear is a handy tool for the government to rally the population around.
Sep 16th 2014, 5:34 am
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Re: Australia's terror alert level raised to high
The issue being of course not to allow the authorities to under mine our individual freedoms in the name of combating terrorism.
The upsetting of such processes is the goal of terrorists and a definite win for those on that side.
Meanwhile fear is a handy tool for the government to rally the population around.
The upsetting of such processes is the goal of terrorists and a definite win for those on that side.
Meanwhile fear is a handy tool for the government to rally the population around.
Sep 16th 2014, 5:36 am
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The fear is/has being created. Australia's stance on the matter overseas will indeed make the nation and likely nationals abroad more likely targets.
Sep 16th 2014, 5:45 am
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I have absolutely zero fear of terrorism here in the UK and had the same level of fear when in Australia, the risk of being affected by terrorism is pretty much equal in either place.
Sep 16th 2014, 5:47 am
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I think the current loss of innocent lives, in particularly Muslim by the ISIS, is already enough to support action. Genocide is not good, it has happened in Germany, Vietnam, Iraq and others, at all times the world has stepped in to stop it. Why change now?
The fact is that ISIS is primarily made up of ex Iraq forces and has a very professional pedigree, those idiots on TV with the UK accents carrying out beheadings are just show ponies trying to destabilise the country they came from. I can guarentee one punch from a SAS would have them cowering in a corner crying their eyes out like a baby and claiming they were brainwashed.
As for the OP, I fully agree, its nothing unusual for a lot of UK expats. But I think G20 will be a nightmare. Not sure I agree with taking kids out of school for the whole week though just because you can't be arsed to find a different route, thats just lazy.
The fact is that ISIS is primarily made up of ex Iraq forces and has a very professional pedigree, those idiots on TV with the UK accents carrying out beheadings are just show ponies trying to destabilise the country they came from. I can guarentee one punch from a SAS would have them cowering in a corner crying their eyes out like a baby and claiming they were brainwashed.
As for the OP, I fully agree, its nothing unusual for a lot of UK expats. But I think G20 will be a nightmare. Not sure I agree with taking kids out of school for the whole week though just because you can't be arsed to find a different route, thats just lazy.
Normally there are economic or geo political reasons for intervention. No unlikely to beat ISIS on the battle field as with all such conflicts the winning comes from winning the hearts and minds.
What is more likely is an on going struggle lasting generations with a heavy cost in finance and threats to global nationals and cities.
Sep 16th 2014, 5:49 am
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Allows the government though to focus on international issues and create fear rather than failed local politics.
Sep 16th 2014, 5:58 am
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We're prepared anyway. Local 'art' festival on our beach this week. This is one of the exhibits....
Sep 16th 2014, 5:59 am
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I wasn't saying that we shouldn't respond to this. I was making the point that killing might be an appropriate response but wishing for killing is, surely not desired.
Sep 16th 2014, 6:03 am
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Absolutely. It's not even about responding. It's about helping those who are left, under threat from the evil.
Sep 16th 2014, 6:05 am
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Right but you responded to my response to Amazulu who claimed to wish for killing. Maybe he was kidding but I honestly don't know.
Sep 16th 2014, 6:08 am
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Well obviously the solution comes from within. Strengthen the forces of opposition with equipment and training. But today's friends due to having a common enemy and be tomorrows enemy.