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Always remember G , "your worst day fishing, is always better , than your best day working "............. :D ......... :beer: mm

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But seriously-some observations-

While I am not saying that Aussies can't lie or don't love money(they sure do)
The mentality is a tad different.
Most Aussies don't really understand the "Jack the lad" types who get off a plane somewhere and re-invent themselves.
They dont understand the totally mercenary way in which SOME brits(and other migrants) will pursue self-interest in new country.
That is becuase they never felt the need to leave theirs(not because they are better)
The government might understand(and be forced to pay) and therefore make it all watertight-perhaps too watertight.
Australia is a too easy place for someone to pop in claiming to be something somewhere else.

Secondly the english bag Aussie workplace culture and it never occurs to them that some might not like their anal ,pedantic, mean, micro-managing office habits and prefer a looser more relaxed style-it isnt necessarily a bad thing

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The Empire will never be over! Never!!

(Don't we still own India and van Diemen's Land? :confused: )

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I follow that to the letter now mm :D

............now I've retired :beer:

G

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Australians lecturing on racism? That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Of course Aussies aren't racist, as long as you're white...

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Today on talkback radio. (6PR Perth). A chap rang in saying that his daughter was refused entry to Burswood Hotel casino because she didn't have the correct ID which proved her age.

She did have ID - she had a photographic ID issued by the Federal Govt and recognised by the State govt. It was pretty good ID also - ID which allowed her to work with children. The ID recognised her age, that she'd never had any criminal convictions and that she was fit to work with children.

But it wasn't the correct ID for Burswood. They have a list of acceptable ID and her ID wasn't on the list. So they turned her away.

Then a lady called in with a similar experience. But her relation had photo ID which exactly matched the recognised ID on the Burswood list. But they refused to let her in. Why? Because it wasn't WA ID, it was from Sydney. Same ID - just issued in Sydney.

Wasn't on the list . She wasn't getting in.

Pedantic, anal, micro-managed? Yep - that's Australia!

Is it just me or does anybody else see similarities between the above and the regulations surrounding skills recognition?

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Don't confuse staying at work with working. BTW, small island we may be, but with a hell of a lot more influence than your remote plot.

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just sent your details to ASIO mike you self appointed racist hero. your type bring your whole country down here.

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I know what you mean, UK firms should just push the Aussie line - say how mediocre they are.
I'd love to say that I've rejected Aussie tenders worth tens of pounds, but if you can't get it out of the ground or off something with legs it doesn't really make it very far now, does it?

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She sold me the envelope, She saw me put 5 sheets of A4 paper in them and put the address on the front. I don't expect them to be rocket scientists but 20mm must be about 100-200 sheets!

As for rules being rules, I agree, but here the rules are sloppily enforced and the people enforcing them show little common sense. They leave themselves so little latitude because there are so many anal rules that when you try to do something a little out of the box they are totally stumped.

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UK Tenders

well the Malaysian government had a formal policy for many years to put all UK tenders last because of years of paternalistic behaviour - sort of like Mike Stanton writ large. Whilst the Australian government has no such formal policy it is an issue that the UK High Comm is well aware of (they have told me) and make great pains to dispell this negative image. Unfortuantely years of hard work can be spoiled by the mike stantons of the world almost overnight. I can assure you it drives them wild with despair (source personal discussions with UK trade commisioner 2001). All UK industry reps and senior govt officials ask for is a level playing field (discussions - lunch with UK defence attace 1998) but until australian is treated as a sovereign nation by the UK then GB firms will always be at a disadvantage.

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No need to be rude.
If you have a book of stamps you should be able to use them, and as they only sell them in at the 50 cent level what do they expect. Not everyone has the time to queue up and buy stamps every time they want to post something. Actually I was handing mine in at work to just go in the post sack. They don't sell stamps, you have to provide your own, and the guy quite seriously told me uit was illegal to overstamp a letter.
I have also been told it in a post office, when I tried to leave a card there to post. As long as it has sufficient postage whats the problem? My loss if I choose to spend more than needed.

Mind you I have a hate of Aus Post anyway, owing to the stupid woman that used to refuse my UK passport saying it wasn't valid ID for parcel posting. She was the same one who needed a "large parcel" customs declaration to post a card that had a badge on the front!!!! :scared: :confused:

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I just hope the people can see your post for what it really is:- a personal attack on somone because they dare to try and point the faults as they see them in Australia. By your definition a person is racist for finding fault in a country and it's ways. An excellent Australian way of putting your head in the sand and pretending problems don't exist so that noone has to get off their ass to fix them. The level of debate when people like you are in it is lower than a primary school debating class.

I don't like what your saying so you must be racist or sexist. Then followed by "I'm telling on you".

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You're having a laugh.

So basically a multi-million dollar deal will be ruined by Mike Stanton or someone like him? This says more about the intellgience of Australian businessmen than anything else. "I'm taking my ball home"

You're a phoney.

Under Mahathir, the Malaysian government had an antagonistic approach to many Western governments incluing Australia:

"Former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad has poured scorn on Australia's hopes of joining a new grouping of Asian nations, saying "they are Europeans, they cannot be Asians"." Dec 2004

You sound like a real dinky-di-double-chip - one on each shoulder - Aussie to me.

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Thats a false argument-Australia is an ex-British colony peopled largely by the British-therefore a)how could Australia outshine the UK b)the 50% to 60% of Australians entirely of British isles origins can take as much pride in British acheivements as you can.

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Some Brits, once they hit Aussie shores - will become just as slack arsed as some of the Aussies already there.

(Just listen to the accents of some of the union reps.)

And of course many Brits won't - and they will often be the ones complaining about not being able to get anything done in a realistic time frame.

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:eek:

Look what happens when you go off to do a bit of work :confused:

people start getting banned.

G

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And threads get closed.
Too much personal abuse and name calling, in amongst what could have been a reasonable discussion.