Australian Airports - DIBP Industrial Action
Mar 20th 2016, 12:50 am
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Whilst some companies, those that can't currently get staff easily, tend towards temporary surface stuff, wages have not kept up with GDP growth. Australia has tended to be better off for staff, with the mining boom, but as we know that's at an end.
The problem, as I've pointed out twice now, is the future. As actions like this by far right wing governments shows, the aim is to reduce protections and reduce terms and conditions whilst not allowing the middle and working classes to share in the money the 1% are progressively taking a larger and larger slice of.
As we move towards automation and large scale unemployment we need a new paradigm, not the bolstering of Thatcherite thinking and "take it or s*d off" lowest common denominator punishment of the poor.
Eventually, hopefully, this old fashioned american politics and idea of how things should be will die. It's inherently destructive and unsustainable in the long term.
Mar 20th 2016, 1:19 am
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Re: Australian Airports - DIBP Industrial Action
And I think you are naive and circa 1980s thinking.
Whilst some companies, those that can't currently get staff easily, tend towards temporary surface stuff, wages have not kept up with GDP growth. Australia has tended to be better off for staff, with the mining boom, but as we know that's at an end.
The problem, as I've pointed out twice now, is the future. As actions like this by far right wing governments shows, the aim is to reduce protections and reduce terms and conditions whilst not allowing the middle and working classes to share in the money the 1% are progressively taking a larger and larger slice of.
As we move towards automation and large scale unemployment we need a new paradigm, not the bolstering of Thatcherite thinking and "take it or s*d off" lowest common denominator punishment of the poor.
Eventually, hopefully, this old fashioned american politics and idea of how things should be will die. It's inherently destructive and unsustainable in the long term.
Whilst some companies, those that can't currently get staff easily, tend towards temporary surface stuff, wages have not kept up with GDP growth. Australia has tended to be better off for staff, with the mining boom, but as we know that's at an end.
The problem, as I've pointed out twice now, is the future. As actions like this by far right wing governments shows, the aim is to reduce protections and reduce terms and conditions whilst not allowing the middle and working classes to share in the money the 1% are progressively taking a larger and larger slice of.
As we move towards automation and large scale unemployment we need a new paradigm, not the bolstering of Thatcherite thinking and "take it or s*d off" lowest common denominator punishment of the poor.
Eventually, hopefully, this old fashioned american politics and idea of how things should be will die. It's inherently destructive and unsustainable in the long term.
Australian incomes and disposable incomes are high by international standards - among the highest of normal countries (excluding places like Qatar, Monaco etc)
Most economic metrics again have Australia in the very highest bracket
By international standards the Australian people have it very good
Australian workers are pampered in relation to other western countries. Laws and conditions are in their favour at the expense of employers
So:
F**k 'em
Times are tight
Wages in the private sector are falling - classic supply/demand scenario
We ain't exactly short of public servants - classic supply/demand scenario
They can have a pay rise when the deficit is gone
(I would have used the W word to describe them but apparently not allowed with public servants)
Mar 20th 2016, 1:33 am
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The private sector that pays the wages of these muppets
Mar 20th 2016, 2:29 am
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Re: Australian Airports - DIBP Industrial Action
And I think you are naive and circa 1980s thinking.
Whilst some companies, those that can't currently get staff easily, tend towards temporary surface stuff, wages have not kept up with GDP growth. Australia has tended to be better off for staff, with the mining boom, but as we know that's at an end.
The problem, as I've pointed out twice now, is the future. As actions like this by far right wing governments shows, the aim is to reduce protections and reduce terms and conditions whilst not allowing the middle and working classes to share in the money the 1% are progressively taking a larger and larger slice of.
As we move towards automation and large scale unemployment we need a new paradigm, not the bolstering of Thatcherite thinking and "take it or s*d off" lowest common denominator punishment of the poor.
Eventually, hopefully, this old fashioned american politics and idea of how things should be will die. It's inherently destructive and unsustainable in the long term.
Whilst some companies, those that can't currently get staff easily, tend towards temporary surface stuff, wages have not kept up with GDP growth. Australia has tended to be better off for staff, with the mining boom, but as we know that's at an end.
The problem, as I've pointed out twice now, is the future. As actions like this by far right wing governments shows, the aim is to reduce protections and reduce terms and conditions whilst not allowing the middle and working classes to share in the money the 1% are progressively taking a larger and larger slice of.
As we move towards automation and large scale unemployment we need a new paradigm, not the bolstering of Thatcherite thinking and "take it or s*d off" lowest common denominator punishment of the poor.
Eventually, hopefully, this old fashioned american politics and idea of how things should be will die. It's inherently destructive and unsustainable in the long term.
Automation shifts the workforce. We've been through this. There is no evidence to prove automation kills overall employment. Remember automation has been happening for centuries. Its not a new thing.
Eg. IT - helps Automation. Were there any IT workers as you know them today in the 1950's? Negative Ghostrider.
Your theory is shallow and flawed.
Mar 20th 2016, 2:50 am
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He he ho ho.
Automation shifts the workforce. We've been through this. There is no evidence to prove automation kills overall employment. Remember automation has been happening for centuries. Its not a new thing.
Eg. IT - helps Automation. Were there any IT workers as you know them today in the 1950's? Negative Ghostrider.
Your theory is shallow and flawed.
Automation shifts the workforce. We've been through this. There is no evidence to prove automation kills overall employment. Remember automation has been happening for centuries. Its not a new thing.
Eg. IT - helps Automation. Were there any IT workers as you know them today in the 1950's? Negative Ghostrider.
Your theory is shallow and flawed.
Automation drives productivity and economic activity, changes the focus of the workforce and opens up new avenues of business, innovation and commerce
Nothing new here and any opinion to the contrary is just that - opinion. Economics shows us otherwise
Mar 20th 2016, 3:13 am
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... and widely accepted by people actually studying the area and thinking about it. But don't let reality dissuade you from claiming black is white, up is down, and 2+2=37.
The robots are stealing our jobs: could a basic income system save us?
"Unless the political establishments and the political centre address insecurities, we're in for a very nasty decade."
Mar 20th 2016, 5:56 am
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The word was removed as a complaint was received about your usage in general. Forum readers do not wish to read a stream of bad language.
Mar 20th 2016, 6:19 am
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... and widely accepted by people actually studying the area and thinking about it. But don't let reality dissuade you from claiming black is white, up is down, and 2+2=37.
The robots are stealing our jobs: could a basic income system save us?
What a load of academic left wing rubbish.
There is no mention of what automation and technology has done for employment over time. Its blatantly ignored to suit the dispicable left wing agenda.
Mar 20th 2016, 6:51 am
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https://hbr.org/2015/06/beyond-automation
It's a very 'climate denier' perspective on real threats.
Mar 20th 2016, 7:56 am
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So, the Harvard Business Review, how's that for 'a load of academic left wing rubbish'?
https://hbr.org/2015/06/beyond-automation
It's a very 'climate denier' perspective on real threats.
https://hbr.org/2015/06/beyond-automation
It's a very 'climate denier' perspective on real threats.
Mar 20th 2016, 10:42 am
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Mar 20th 2016, 2:19 pm
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Mar 23rd 2016, 10:28 am
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