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Old Aug 24th 2009 | 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
I think this is the main point of a lot of what is posted on BE. So many people unhappy/pissed off with life/conditions in Australia yet still continuing to live here.

It's a bizarre situation. I could never live in a place where I was unhappy.
Some people don't have the option to just move out of Australia, it isn't that simple.

I certainly don't. The only reason I moved to Perth was for my wife, so she could be closer to her family. I am however trying to make the best of it. That doesn't mean I'm not allowed to voice things that I don't like about being here.

What I find bizarre is people who imply that they are totally happy with living somewhere, and can find absolutely no fault at all. I just find that slightly unrealistic.
 
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I can relate to a lot of the sentiments in the article and a lot of the comments. I've been back in Australia for 18 months after about 10 years overseas and I'm finding it fairly boring. Travel/culture is my main issue - it is really expensive to travel within Australia and time consuming travelling overseas.

I have some English friends here and they are all shocked at me saying that I may return to the UK but I remind them that they have only been here 5 minutes whilst I have done over 20 years here and ofcourse everything is great (beach & weather) for awhile........
 
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Originally Posted by sr71
So why not move there, why waste all the time and money involved in coming to Australia when you have a passport that automatically gives you the right to live in any of these fantastic European countries? What's the point in living in Australia if you are bitter or don't like it. I certainly couldn't do that.
Who's bitter?
 
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Originally Posted by The_Wookie
Some people don't have the option to just move out of Australia, it isn't that simple.

I certainly don't. The only reason I moved to Perth was for my wife, so she could be closer to her family. I am however trying to make the best of it. That doesn't mean I'm not allowed to voice things that I don't like about being here.

What I find bizarre is people who imply that they are totally happy with living somewhere, and can find absolutely no fault at all. I just find that slightly unrealistic.
I agree, if people are so happy surely they wouldn't care if someone thought it was boring.
 
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Who's bitter?
It comes across sometimes in various posts.
 
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Originally Posted by sr71
It comes across sometimes in various posts.
From whom?
 
Old Aug 24th 2009 | 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by MonandMike
I can relate to a lot of the sentiments in the article and a lot of the comments. I've been back in Australia for 18 months after about 10 years overseas and I'm finding it fairly boring. Travel/culture is my main issue - it is really expensive to travel within Australia and time consuming travelling overseas.

I have some English friends here and they are all shocked at me saying that I may return to the UK but I remind them that they have only been here 5 minutes whilst I have done over 20 years here and ofcourse everything is great (beach & weather) for awhile........
thanks for your views as a local
I did not mean this thread to be a slanging match on is it or isnt it boring but was just trying to show what many locals feel, i think many replying to this thread did not read the link, it was posted on an aussie site with comments by australians, and i was just trying to show that many locals especialy younger ones dont think that Australia is some kind of utopia on earth unlike many new migrants or people wanting to migrate.
 
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Originally Posted by Burbage
The natural landscape of Australia is far from boring, but once you've seen one Australian city you've seen them all, once you've seen one Australian country town you've seen them all, once you've seen one Australian sea side resort you've seen them all.

The problem, if there is one, is that Australia doesn't have very many people, and they all pretty much the same. There's no variation in culture. There's more cultural change between Sunderland and Newcastle 30 miles up the road than there is between Perth and Brisbane.

Unless you count the aboriginal Australians, whom most Australians seem to ignore.

It's not their fault, of course, the country (politically speaking) is only 200 years old.
Not engaging your main point but not sure I agree with your example. Perth and Brisbane have totally different geography, weather, government, location, history etc so while they are still homogeneous, it makes for more cultural difference than Newcastle v Sunderland 30 miles up the road (though I'm sure they would beg to differ). Of course it all depends how you wish to define cultural difference.

I think the range of people and places in oz is still great despite the similarities in the city people due to developing during the era of modern communications - many people don't see the differences though as they limit themselves to the same type of places because they want to be comfortable, familiar, don't have the time, money or even know about the other places that exist.

Country victoria is very different from country qld vs country wa vs north qld vs northern territory vs tasmania vs torres strait vs northern wa - and the people are too.

There is so much of the sameness that sometimes people forget that difference exists as well - it is just further away which is the problem.

Cooktown is different to Noosa is different to St Kilda and Darwin and monkey mia vs western tassie vs norfolk island vs fraser etc

The people in the UK have had a long history of difference which has been often removed by living in a modern era so physically close to each other - in Australia we have had a short history of sameness in the cities but will foster difference in the people and places far longer than the UK into the future because of the totally different natural environments, the differing personalities needed to live in them and the huge distances involved.

So both have something to offer in my book.
 
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Default Re: Is Australia to boring?

Originally Posted by papilon
thanks for your views as a local
I did not mean this thread to be a slanging match on is it or isnt it boring but was just trying to show what many locals feel, i think many replying to this thread did not read the link, it was posted on an aussie site with comments by australians, and i was just trying to show that many locals especialy younger ones dont think that Australia is some kind of utopia on earth unlike many new migrants or people wanting to migrate.
Fair point....though as an aside I think you would find a thread like that even in utopia itself....we are all born to whinge, especially it seems young males sitting in front of their computer
 
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
I agree, if people are so happy surely they wouldn't care if someone thought it was boring.
Thats the bottom line!!
 
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Originally Posted by MonandMike
I can relate to a lot of the sentiments in the article and a lot of the comments. I've been back in Australia for 18 months after about 10 years overseas and I'm finding it fairly boring. Travel/culture is my main issue - it is really expensive to travel within Australia and time consuming travelling overseas.

I have some English friends here and they are all shocked at me saying that I may return to the UK but I remind them that they have only been here 5 minutes whilst I have done over 20 years here and ofcourse everything is great (beach & weather) for awhile........
How true.I feel that Australia has overshot the point where it is a country where value for much of what one pays for can be had.
Do feel this an important point for as boring as it is for a lot of people,at least in not to distant times past where a sense of fairness with regards to prices seemed to prevail.
Now it is just another over regulated,fairly ordinary country,still attempting to discover it's true position within Asia, far away from the old world which cares little about it apart from thinking it a little quaint.
 
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Originally Posted by The_Wookie
Some people don't have the option to just move out of Australia, it isn't that simple.

I certainly don't. The only reason I moved to Perth was for my wife, so she could be closer to her family. I am however trying to make the best of it. That doesn't mean I'm not allowed to voice things that I don't like about being here.

What I find bizarre is people who imply that they are totally happy with living somewhere, and can find absolutely no fault at all. I just find that slightly unrealistic.
We are going to have to agree to disagree on this as I am not going to debate it with you, but, for me, it is that simple. If you are not happy (which can mean many different things to different people) with where you live, then what's the point?

I agree with your second point. Nowhere is perfect and anyone who says it is, is talking out of their arse.
 
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
We are going to have to agree to disagree on this as I am not going to debate it with you, but, for me, it is that simple. If you are not happy (which can mean many different things to different people) with where you live, then what's the point?

I agree with your second point. Nowhere is perfect and anyone who says it is, is talking out of their arse.
You have to compromise though, especially in relationships. My wife was desperate to return to Perth, I didn't particularly want to. In the end however, I compromised as my relationship deserved it.

So you have a situation where a couple are in a strong relationship, one is very happy where they are, the other not so. I can't just say 'right I'm off back to the UK, like it or lump it'.

Some people simply don't have a choice of where they live, and have to make do. Be it people in situations like me, or people who cannot move for financial reasons. I'm sure there's a fair few other scenarios too.
 
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
Now it is just another over regulated,fairly ordinary country,still attempting to discover it's true position within Asia, far away from the old world which cares little about it apart from thinking it a little quaint.
How about a rewording of that for the UK.

Now it is just another over regulated,fairly ordinary country,still attempting to discover it's true position within Europe, far away from the new world which cares little about it apart from thinking it a little quaint.

I'm also seriously writing a best-selling book for potential migrants to Australia. It will cover the basics such as highlighting the distances faced, the population levels, costs of living, flight times to other countries and the associated fares. You know, the basic facts that so many people who emigrate seem so incapable of assessing, yet whinge about once they are actually here.

There is so much truth in the statement that only boring people get bored.
 


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