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#31
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I Carol.
Please do not take this as a dig - I never get involved in that.
But, I do think you need to do a LOT more research.
I will only speak for Northern WA, as I have spent a lot of time there.
First, the heat. This is a heat very different to what you think. Just like a cold climate can feel much warmer or much colder than the thermostat reads, hot can do the same. In the north of WA, it is common for it to be well over 40c, and real extremes are not unusual. But, it can, due to the dry winds, feel much hotter. Then, summer comes! The humidity builds and the cyclones come in and batter the area.
Then there is housing and work. The towns there are remote and small and a LONG way from anywhere - fancy a wander round a city? well, that will be hundred of $$$ on a plane. Most of the work in the larger areas such as Port Hedland is mining related. However, mining in Oz is suffering a major decline with thousands of redundancies. The towns like Hedland are suffering as a result. The property up there is VERY expensive, though it has fallen a massive amount in recent months and there was a case in the paper of a house that was bought only a year or so ago for $1.3 million. Now selling for $300k. However, even with the slump, all that gets you is a shack made of asbestos.
Because of the slump, work is getting harder and harder to find - some towns have seen half their population made redundant.
The big cities such as Perth are now also feeling it, as well as the state government who are having to look at big cuts - the state gets a lot of its income from royalties from iron ore mining. It based its budget on a iron price of about $140 a tonne. The actual price though is now nearly $50. So, a huge hole they are trying to fill by cuts and more redundancies
I really would do a lot more research before you spend lots of time thinking about a move.
Please do not take this as a dig - I never get involved in that.
But, I do think you need to do a LOT more research.
I will only speak for Northern WA, as I have spent a lot of time there.
First, the heat. This is a heat very different to what you think. Just like a cold climate can feel much warmer or much colder than the thermostat reads, hot can do the same. In the north of WA, it is common for it to be well over 40c, and real extremes are not unusual. But, it can, due to the dry winds, feel much hotter. Then, summer comes! The humidity builds and the cyclones come in and batter the area.
Then there is housing and work. The towns there are remote and small and a LONG way from anywhere - fancy a wander round a city? well, that will be hundred of $$$ on a plane. Most of the work in the larger areas such as Port Hedland is mining related. However, mining in Oz is suffering a major decline with thousands of redundancies. The towns like Hedland are suffering as a result. The property up there is VERY expensive, though it has fallen a massive amount in recent months and there was a case in the paper of a house that was bought only a year or so ago for $1.3 million. Now selling for $300k. However, even with the slump, all that gets you is a shack made of asbestos.
Because of the slump, work is getting harder and harder to find - some towns have seen half their population made redundant.
The big cities such as Perth are now also feeling it, as well as the state government who are having to look at big cuts - the state gets a lot of its income from royalties from iron ore mining. It based its budget on a iron price of about $140 a tonne. The actual price though is now nearly $50. So, a huge hole they are trying to fill by cuts and more redundancies
I really would do a lot more research before you spend lots of time thinking about a move.
#32
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We never had any idea of this, didnt think it was so difficult, after all plenty of other natinalities bring partners here. Programs on moving and books weve read dont project what you are telling me, I never expected all the negative comments on living down under, its not just a want to be there its a need for my health I know living in such a brilliant climate will give me a life to live, instead of the existence I know face. Expenses on day to day living has to be better than paying huge gas bills all year, I have to keep warm because of my medical problems.
On Saturday I met a woman frm the Sydney region she also had similar medical problems as I have, 10 yrs ago she left our shores shes now sympton free all for $32 towards the cost of meds that and the climate given her a new life .. she told me the care she got in the uk was rubbish compared to what she has gotten in Sydney .
That alone us enough to have to get a visa.
It sounds like you want to come to the uk, do you think theyd let us swap , lol ... if I was you I would reconsider this country is going to the dogs.. tory government has changed too much , unless your of ample means your not consudered as having needs , the NHS has totaly gone to pot both myself and my husband have had serious issues with the way now dearly missed members of our families were treated at a time when every resoucre should of been put into there care. But if your gone 60 .. your care in the NHS is not what it should be.
There have been hundreds of stories similar in the press ..the jobs on offer are not paying what they did 3 yrs ago due to E U citizens accepting wages under the minimum wage. Thats is you manage to get a contract thats not zero hours... these contracts arent just going to those at the bottom end of employment but office work & Banking roles have been reported to also be offering these . This is the con the goverment have allowed to go just so they can fool the british public that theyve created millions of jobs.. most of them are not worth having.
Housing is also mega expensive to buy especially in or near any big city.
I wish you all the very best if you do come over to the UK ?
Have a very good day and thanks again for everything
Arol
On Saturday I met a woman frm the Sydney region she also had similar medical problems as I have, 10 yrs ago she left our shores shes now sympton free all for $32 towards the cost of meds that and the climate given her a new life .. she told me the care she got in the uk was rubbish compared to what she has gotten in Sydney .
That alone us enough to have to get a visa.
It sounds like you want to come to the uk, do you think theyd let us swap , lol ... if I was you I would reconsider this country is going to the dogs.. tory government has changed too much , unless your of ample means your not consudered as having needs , the NHS has totaly gone to pot both myself and my husband have had serious issues with the way now dearly missed members of our families were treated at a time when every resoucre should of been put into there care. But if your gone 60 .. your care in the NHS is not what it should be.
There have been hundreds of stories similar in the press ..the jobs on offer are not paying what they did 3 yrs ago due to E U citizens accepting wages under the minimum wage. Thats is you manage to get a contract thats not zero hours... these contracts arent just going to those at the bottom end of employment but office work & Banking roles have been reported to also be offering these . This is the con the goverment have allowed to go just so they can fool the british public that theyve created millions of jobs.. most of them are not worth having.
Housing is also mega expensive to buy especially in or near any big city.
I wish you all the very best if you do come over to the UK ?
Have a very good day and thanks again for everything
Arol
From around the most over priced housing in the world to high rents with limited rental protection.
Job market is becoming steadily harder and wages are rather flat. Very high youth unemployment. Ageism very ripe in the work place. Foreigners on 457 visa's being brought in to Australia in place of training and/or employing local workers. One report mentioned 90% of jobs in previous quarter had gone to foreigners. The government is bringing in close to a million migrants every three and a half years. Actually UK percentage is in decline. India and China are now main source countries. Nothing wrong with that but overall numbers are far too big, regardless of country of birth. The infrastructure is finding it increasingly hard to cope. Will there be a recession? No one knows yet but we are the only advanced rich country now in decline. UK is on the rise as is a lot of Europe and USA.
Hospital waiting lists here as well. Lack of beds. Lots of talk recently with regards poor mental health services.
Many dread the heat after a time here. Skin cancer is highest in Australia.
The houses are ill equipped to deal with the weather variations in many cases.
Immigration is a business that is keeping recession at bay. It keeps house prices up and government has little concern if people stay or not in this Ponzi scheme.
Another thought is relationships can often come undone migrating. Various reasons for this. One likes other doesn't. etc,etc. Same can apply later with kids moving on or back.
Just a few points to dwell over regarding Australia. OZ is not a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, but hard work and increasingly so. It can work but far from guaranteed. Close on a third do return.
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One report mentioned 90% of jobs in previous quarter had gone to foreigners.
What a crock of shit. Where is this report?
What a crock of shit. Where is this report?
#34
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Who said Australia was expensive? In comparison to what? For me Australia (Sydney) is cheaper than London by a considerable way. For someone else in different shoes it may be different.
I know it looks small on Wanted Down Under but Australia is a big place with varying costs and salaries, just like in the UK - you know, the north is cheaper than the south but the south is where the salaries are, unless you like fly in fly out from Aberdeen.
You really need to do proper research rather than listening to fluff on WDU and BE.
I know it looks small on Wanted Down Under but Australia is a big place with varying costs and salaries, just like in the UK - you know, the north is cheaper than the south but the south is where the salaries are, unless you like fly in fly out from Aberdeen.
You really need to do proper research rather than listening to fluff on WDU and BE.
Take out the blur chip locations and you will find both are way overpriced for everyday working people and are poor value.
Wrong the poster would do themselves a favour in getting a reality check by reading posters at ground level than being led up the garden path by dross like Wanted Down Under and the rest.
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Afraid not if I can relocate it I will give a link. You really should keep up with modern day realities in Australia instead of constantly straying onto a beaten path that ceased to function quite some time ago.
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Hmm. Change a few words here & there and does this sound familiar to anyone?
if I was you I would reconsider this country is going to the dogs.. ALP/Lib government has changed too much , unless your of ample means your not consudered as having needs , the public health systemhas totaly gone to pot
the jobs on offer are not paying what they did 3 yrs ago due to foreign students, illegal immigrants & visa overstayers accepting wages under the minimum wage. Thats is you manage to get a contract thats not zero hours... these contracts arent just going to those at the bottom end of employment but office work & Banking roles have been reported to also be outsourced to the likes of 457 visa workers .
This is the con the goverment have allowed to go just so they can fool the british public that theyve created millions of jobs.. by counting someone with 1 hour's employment per week 'emloyed' in their unemployment figures.
Housing is also mega expensive to buy especially in or near any big city. due to several factors such as negative gearing, overseas investors to name but a few.
if I was you I would reconsider this country is going to the dogs.. ALP/Lib government has changed too much , unless your of ample means your not consudered as having needs , the public health systemhas totaly gone to pot
the jobs on offer are not paying what they did 3 yrs ago due to foreign students, illegal immigrants & visa overstayers accepting wages under the minimum wage. Thats is you manage to get a contract thats not zero hours... these contracts arent just going to those at the bottom end of employment but office work & Banking roles have been reported to also be outsourced to the likes of 457 visa workers .
This is the con the goverment have allowed to go just so they can fool the british public that theyve created millions of jobs.. by counting someone with 1 hour's employment per week 'emloyed' in their unemployment figures.
Housing is also mega expensive to buy especially in or near any big city. due to several factors such as negative gearing, overseas investors to name but a few.
Housing costs are beyond the means of young professionals in the main cities these days unless prepared to live on the outskirts of sprawling cities with poor public transport options.
The onus seems to be on Big Australia. More people the better. Bring them in and let them get on with it. No planning. Infrastructure not coping.
Conditions worsening. Less pie to go around.
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Some 400,000 jobs created to middle of last year and 380,000 foreigners working on WHV's, Short Term contracts and Students. Wonder why something like 30% of youth is underutilised.
You should be an estate agent (if not already) deny the reality to the bitter end while talking the product up instead of looking for solutions and admitting mistakes have been made.
As I said Sydney is like London beyond the reach of ordinary people. I would argue Sydney is a second tier city at not on the level of London and way overpriced thanks in large part to foreign investors and dodgy money and cheap money bringing out parasite speculators hoping to get rich in the belief that Sydney's prices will forever keep rising.
#41
Sydney and Melbourne hold their places among 10 most expensive cities | Australia news | The Guardian
Haven lived in Sydney, Perth and London. Sydney is, in my opinion a LOT more expensive than London and Perth isnt far behind Sydney. Cant comment on Melbourne
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Relaying the truth and the reality. Actually yes I would know.Tell you something I'm not needed to sprout fear, the fear is alive and well out in the community. Your right wing mates in government have more than contributed their share as well.
Some 400,000 jobs created to middle of last year and 380,000 foreigners working on WHV's, Short Term contracts and Students. Wonder why something like 30% of youth is underutilised.
You should be an estate agent (if not already) deny the reality to the bitter end while talking the product up instead of looking for solutions and admitting mistakes have been made.
As I said Sydney is like London beyond the reach of ordinary people. I would argue Sydney is a second tier city at not on the level of London and way overpriced thanks in large part to foreign investors and dodgy money and cheap money bringing out parasite speculators hoping to get rich in the belief that Sydney's prices will forever keep rising.
Some 400,000 jobs created to middle of last year and 380,000 foreigners working on WHV's, Short Term contracts and Students. Wonder why something like 30% of youth is underutilised.
You should be an estate agent (if not already) deny the reality to the bitter end while talking the product up instead of looking for solutions and admitting mistakes have been made.
As I said Sydney is like London beyond the reach of ordinary people. I would argue Sydney is a second tier city at not on the level of London and way overpriced thanks in large part to foreign investors and dodgy money and cheap money bringing out parasite speculators hoping to get rich in the belief that Sydney's prices will forever keep rising.
Its in my interest to do so. If London was better value for money I'd be back in a flash.
Sprout all the fear you want, at least have the decency to back it up.
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Where in the world do you get the cheapest iPhone 6 or pair of Adidas trainers? | Business | The Guardian
Sydney and Melbourne hold their places among 10 most expensive cities | Australia news | The Guardian
Haven lived in Sydney, Perth and London. Sydney is, in my opinion a LOT more expensive than London and Perth isnt far behind Sydney. Cant comment on Melbourne
Sydney and Melbourne hold their places among 10 most expensive cities | Australia news | The Guardian
Haven lived in Sydney, Perth and London. Sydney is, in my opinion a LOT more expensive than London and Perth isnt far behind Sydney. Cant comment on Melbourne
Plenty of things are cheaper in Australia compared to the UK:
Most technology and electronics
A lot of electrical goods
Many new cars
Transport fuel
Steak
Car insurance
Digeridoos
Swingies and roondaboots
#45
Knowledge is about to be imparted on your asses - you're welcome
Human Development Index (HDI) (UN) 2014:
1 Norway
2 Australia
6 Germany
7 New Zealand
14 UK
Per Capita GDP (Nominal) (IMF) 2014:
1 Luxembourg $111716
5 Australia $61219
17 Germany $47589
18 UK $45653
20 New Zealand $43837
Life Expectancy (WHO) 2012:
1 Japan 86.2
9 Australia 83
13 New Zealand 82.1
22 Germany 81
28 UK 81
Average Household Disposable Income (OECD) 2013:
1 USA $39531
4 Australia $31197
6 Germany $30721
13 UK $25828
21 New Zealand $21773
etc
Human Development Index (HDI) (UN) 2014:
1 Norway
2 Australia
6 Germany
7 New Zealand
14 UK
Per Capita GDP (Nominal) (IMF) 2014:
1 Luxembourg $111716
5 Australia $61219
17 Germany $47589
18 UK $45653
20 New Zealand $43837
Life Expectancy (WHO) 2012:
1 Japan 86.2
9 Australia 83
13 New Zealand 82.1
22 Germany 81
28 UK 81
Average Household Disposable Income (OECD) 2013:
1 USA $39531
4 Australia $31197
6 Germany $30721
13 UK $25828
21 New Zealand $21773
etc



