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NJJ Mar 3rd 2005 7:40 am

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by wombat42
England has lost the last 8 Ashes series. The current English team is no better then any of the previous losing teams so of course they have no hope of winning or even drawing in my opinion. The Aussie team are professionals the poms are second rate amuatures. l would'nt want to be the English Captain because after most Ashes humilations the Poms use him as the scapegoat and sack him, then replace him with someone thats even more incompetant.


I grudgingly agree with most of what you've put. Apart from I can't see the ECB getting rid of Michael Vaughan.

thepoacher Mar 3rd 2005 9:50 am

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by Siren
Are you seeing what the Aussies are doing to the Kiwis at the moment in the one dayers, and the Kiwis are suppose to be the 2nd best team in the world at the moment.

There is no way the Aussie will lose the first test, they know that that will be the most important one to set up the whole series.

Well, I'm thinking back to 1997 when an 'average' England team beat an excellent Australian team (Taylor, Elliot, Blewett, M. Waugh, S. Waugh, Bevan, Healy, Gillespie, Warne, Kasprovicz and McGrath) in the first test at Edgbaston to go 1-0 up.

Innyjim Mar 3rd 2005 10:51 am

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by wombat42
A would'nt call it a battle more like a massacre or a one sided slaughter.

Well I predict that England will win the first three to take the series, the last two will be a draw. Anybody who says different is insane. Remember it's my ten bucks riding on it.....

wombat42 Mar 3rd 2005 5:54 pm

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by Innyjim
Well I predict that England will win the first three to take the series, the last two will be a draw. .....

Quick ! Hide!, the men in white coats are coming to take you away :eek:

JohnoBronco Mar 3rd 2005 8:20 pm

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by wombat42
Perhaps to make the Ashes series slightly more even we should send the under 18 Aussie side to play against England. But then the humilation would be even worse if England was defeated by a bunch of Aussie high School kids. :D


I'd love it if we beat the aussies u need to be brought down a peg or two - England will have to win the ashes back at some point - but I suppose when that happens all Australians will be in denial and blame it on injuries or England were lucky - pull your heads out - most of your best players are the wrong side of 30+ and your youngsters are no ware near as good as them - Even Rod Marsh says England have better talent coming through :D

JohnoBronco Mar 3rd 2005 8:21 pm

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by Siren
Are you seeing what the Aussies are doing to the Kiwis at the moment in the one dayers, and the Kiwis are suppose to be the 2nd best team in the world at the moment.

There is no way the Aussie will lose the first test, they know that that will be the most important one to set up the whole series.

Thats ODI's - England are ranked number 2 in the test rankings!!!!

OzTennis Mar 3rd 2005 8:42 pm

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by JohnoBronco
I'd love it if we beat the aussies u need to be brought down a peg or two - England will have to win the ashes back at some point - but I suppose when that happens all Australians will be in denial and blame it on injuries or England were lucky - pull your heads out - most of your best players are the wrong side of 30+ and your youngsters are no ware near as good as them - Even Rod Marsh says England have better talent coming through :D

Rod Marsh would - his job is to bring through English youngsters. :D

I agree that the likes of McGrath and Warne are going to be tough to replace but Michael Clarke is touted in some quarters as the 'next Bradman' and will do very well in this series. The likes of Ponting, Martyn, Lee, Gillespie etc have many more years left in them. I thought Steve Waugh would be impossible to replace but now it's Steve who?, Mark who? Alan who?

Oh, and the likes of Butcher, Thorpe, Trescothick, Vaughan etc are getting on a bit themselves aren't they? It won't be the current English team which plays the next Australian team. England have some very good SA's coming through too!

OzTennis :)

JohnoBronco Mar 3rd 2005 8:52 pm

Re: The Ashes
 
[QUOTE=OzTennis]Rod Marsh would - his job is to bring through English youngsters. :D

We both know no Australian would say something like that unless they meant it - besides he's leaving the job at the end of the sorry

thepoacher Mar 3rd 2005 8:52 pm

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by JohnoBronco
I'd love it if we beat the aussies u need to be brought down a peg or two - England will have to win the ashes back at some point - but I suppose when that happens all Australians will be in denial and blame it on injuries or England were lucky - pull your heads out - most of your best players are the wrong side of 30+ and your youngsters are no ware near as good as them - Even Rod Marsh says England have better talent coming through :D


Somehow I feel that Australia will always have the talent coming through due its superior domestic game.
The likes of Border, Healy and the Waughs (the list could continue) have left over the years and the team just gets stonger. Michael Clarke has recently entered the scene just as another batsmen was needed.
In a few years a new generation of Australian cricketers will come through to hound England through the ensuing decade - that's just how life is!

JohnoBronco Mar 3rd 2005 8:55 pm

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by thepoacher
Somehow I feel that Australia will always have the talent coming through due its superior domestic game.
The likes of Border, Healy and the Waughs (the list could continue) have left over the years and the team just gets stonger. Michael Clarke has recently entered the scene just as another batsmen was needed.
In a few years a new generation of Australian cricketers will come through to hound England through the ensuing decade - that's just how life is!


Every team has a bad period and Australia's will come at some point thats all I'm saying

thepoacher Mar 3rd 2005 9:00 pm

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by JohnoBronco
Every team has a bad period and Australia's will come at some point thats all I'm saying

True, I hope it's not while I'm living in England though, the ammount of stick I've given out over the past few years would come back tenfold.

JohnoBronco Mar 3rd 2005 9:03 pm

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by thepoacher
True, I hope it's not while I'm living in England though, the ammount of stick I've given out over the past few years would come back tenfold.

LOL - please, please. please let it be England that brings them back to earth!!!!! :D

walaj Mar 4th 2005 6:16 am

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by JohnoBronco
LOL - please, please. please let it be England that brings them back to earth!!!!! :D

especially at Edgbaston, 2nd day, 'cause I will be there :D

wombat42 Mar 4th 2005 9:18 am

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by JohnoBronco
LOL - please, please. please let it be England that brings them back to earth!!!!! :D

I'm sure the Aussies players are trembling in their boots. :D . :D . :D . :D

JohnoBronco Mar 4th 2005 1:15 pm

Re: The Ashes
 

Originally Posted by wombat42
I'm sure the Aussies players are trembling in their boots. :D . :D . :D . :D

Mate I cant wait to hear your excuses or will u disappear with the shame of losing to the poms?????

If we lose its expected but if we win............... :D


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