Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
Oct 14th 2008, 2:59 am
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Oct 14th 2008, 3:01 am
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
Hi Mikey,
I'm currently looking for a position in banking/finance. Is there any chance I could send you a copy of my resume re. layout/format. I wouldn't expect any specific feedback about experience/position nor for you to pass it one to anybody else. But a general perspective from somebody who actually works in the banking industry in Sydney would be great.
No worries if you'd rather not.
Jason
I'm currently looking for a position in banking/finance. Is there any chance I could send you a copy of my resume re. layout/format. I wouldn't expect any specific feedback about experience/position nor for you to pass it one to anybody else. But a general perspective from somebody who actually works in the banking industry in Sydney would be great.
No worries if you'd rather not.
Jason
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Oct 14th 2008, 3:03 am
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
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Oct 14th 2008, 3:08 am
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
Good luck in your case
Oct 14th 2008, 3:35 am
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
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Oct 14th 2008, 3:53 am
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
Thanks. All your points are fair and I know the timing could be a great deal better. I'm also not sure the title 'derivatives trader' on my resume is helping much either (not at all the sort of 'derivatives' or 'executive bonuses' making headlines by the way, although I know I won't get much sympathy)...
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Good luck with the job hunting and all the very best
Oct 14th 2008, 4:51 am
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
Thanks. All your points are fair and I know the timing could be a great deal better. I'm also not sure the title 'derivatives trader' on my resume is helping much either (not at all the sort of 'derivatives' or 'executive bonuses' making headlines by the way, although I know I won't get much sympathy)...
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Good luck & no harm ment
Oct 14th 2008, 7:53 am
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
They don't "think" it - it happens to be the truth if you are a secondary 457 holder. An employer is naturally going to be reluctant to offer a permanent post to someone who could be forced to leave Australia within 28 days if the spouse gets fired, sick etc.
Can this employer sponsor for permanent residence? Just because you are a secondary 457 holder doesn't stop you going for ENS yourself if otherwise eligible. So you can start work on the 457 and simultaneously kick-off an ENS application to stay. All assumes you are ENS/RSMS eligible of course.
Can this employer sponsor for permanent residence? Just because you are a secondary 457 holder doesn't stop you going for ENS yourself if otherwise eligible. So you can start work on the 457 and simultaneously kick-off an ENS application to stay. All assumes you are ENS/RSMS eligible of course.
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Oct 14th 2008, 8:55 am
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
when we came over on my 457 visa, my hubby went to temp agencies. He worked in reinsurance in City of London, and ended up processing motor claims here.
Still his 2 week assignment became an 18month assignment, and after that it was OK as he had Aus experience
He is now training as a plumber!
Still his 2 week assignment became an 18month assignment, and after that it was OK as he had Aus experience
He is now training as a plumber!
Oct 14th 2008, 11:11 am
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
Well a lot of you are talking about what you are putting on your CV, maybe that is the problem... in Australia we don’t use CV’s, it’s a resume!
Secondly, make sure your Resume is done to the Australian format, with your employment history and qualifications in the right place.
Don’t put down that you are a British Citizen, perm resident of another country etc, no one cares and it just makes you look like you are going to be a hassle.
Just dont put down any citizenship/work right’s at all (you don’t normally put that on a resume anyway) as when you get called for you interview they ask “have you the right to work in Australia” and that is when you answer “Yes”
If you really want to put something on your resume, then just say, “Eligible to work in Australia”
Oh and PS: never put on your resume “references available upon request” it goes straight into the bin, have you’re references listed (don’t worry they can’t call without asking first). And never put a picture of yourself on it (seen this done a lot in the UK), it looks odd and tacky.
Mikey
Secondly, make sure your Resume is done to the Australian format, with your employment history and qualifications in the right place.
Don’t put down that you are a British Citizen, perm resident of another country etc, no one cares and it just makes you look like you are going to be a hassle.
Just dont put down any citizenship/work right’s at all (you don’t normally put that on a resume anyway) as when you get called for you interview they ask “have you the right to work in Australia” and that is when you answer “Yes”
If you really want to put something on your resume, then just say, “Eligible to work in Australia”
Oh and PS: never put on your resume “references available upon request” it goes straight into the bin, have you’re references listed (don’t worry they can’t call without asking first). And never put a picture of yourself on it (seen this done a lot in the UK), it looks odd and tacky.
Mikey
When I worked at the recruitment agency in Adelaide we did a large intake for Centrelink. When applications came in the first question we asked potential interviewees was "are you eligible to work for Centrlink? Are you a citizen or are you eligible to apply for citizenship?" When I got my job with the hospital here in WA they asked me in the interview what my immigration status here was...PR, TR or citizen.
Oct 14th 2008, 1:12 pm
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
I disagree. I work in HR and see a lot of CVs on my desk every day. If a person only has foreign experience, I particularly want to see on their CV that they have the right to work in Australia. We have a lot of people who apply for jobs who don't have the right and whilst we will sponsor some, they have to be very good. I will make that call there and then as to whether I have the time to spare to find out if you have the right to work in Australia or not and I will usually only bother to do this if I think there is a good chance we will sponsor you if you don't. If you are one of many, your CV is more likely to find the bin as it creates extra work for me.
And as for calling CVs Resumes in Australia, both terms are used as frequently as the other. I'd probably actually say at a push that CV is more commonly used.
As per a previous poster, I agree, don't bother putting citizenship of other countries on. It makes no odds to me and just distracts me from reading the information about your skills and experience that you want me to read to get you the job.
Good luck job hunters!
And as for calling CVs Resumes in Australia, both terms are used as frequently as the other. I'd probably actually say at a push that CV is more commonly used.
As per a previous poster, I agree, don't bother putting citizenship of other countries on. It makes no odds to me and just distracts me from reading the information about your skills and experience that you want me to read to get you the job.
Good luck job hunters!
Oct 14th 2008, 1:45 pm
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
I disagree. I work in HR and see a lot of CVs on my desk every day. If a person only has foreign experience, I particularly want to see on their CV that they have the right to work in Australia. We have a lot of people who apply for jobs who don't have the right and whilst we will sponsor some, they have to be very good. I will make that call there and then as to whether I have the time to spare to find out if you have the right to work in Australia or not and I will usually only bother to do this if I think there is a good chance we will sponsor you if you don't. If you are one of many, your CV is more likely to find the bin as it creates extra work for me.
If you are applying and don’t have permission to work here and want a sponsor, that information would be stated in your covering letter to the company (You don't type on your resume that you are looking to be sponsored).
No need to put your visa status on your resume, if you want to talk about that then it should also be in the cover letter. As Dorthy stated also, they always ask you that anyway at the interview or when they call, that’s when you tell them.
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Oct 14th 2008, 2:20 pm
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
For info for those not here yet - many jobs here, especially government ones, have their own cover sheet which they wish to have included in the application. As well as basic information about name, address etc, they also include the question "Do you have the right to work in Australia?" or "What is your status in Australia, citizen, PR, temporary resident". If they have that sheet then you should make sure you answer it honestly, as often its asked when there are restrictions on the position - only open to citizens, for example.
Oct 20th 2008, 9:09 am
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Re: Anyone else having problems finding work on 457?
Well a lot of you are talking about what you are putting on your CV, maybe that is the problem... in Australia we don’t use CV’s, it’s a resume!
Secondly, make sure your Resume is done to the Australian format, with your employment history and qualifications in the right place.
Don’t put down that you are a British Citizen, perm resident of another country etc, no one cares and it just makes you look like you are going to be a hassle.
Just dont put down any citizenship/work right’s at all (you don’t normally put that on a resume anyway) as when you get called for you interview they ask “have you the right to work in Australia” and that is when you answer “Yes”
If you really want to put something on your resume, then just say, “Eligible to work in Australia”
Oh and PS: never put on your resume “references available upon request” it goes straight into the bin, have you’re references listed (don’t worry they can’t call without asking first). And never put a picture of yourself on it (seen this done a lot in the UK), it looks odd and tacky.
Mikey
Secondly, make sure your Resume is done to the Australian format, with your employment history and qualifications in the right place.
Don’t put down that you are a British Citizen, perm resident of another country etc, no one cares and it just makes you look like you are going to be a hassle.
Just dont put down any citizenship/work right’s at all (you don’t normally put that on a resume anyway) as when you get called for you interview they ask “have you the right to work in Australia” and that is when you answer “Yes”
If you really want to put something on your resume, then just say, “Eligible to work in Australia”
Oh and PS: never put on your resume “references available upon request” it goes straight into the bin, have you’re references listed (don’t worry they can’t call without asking first). And never put a picture of yourself on it (seen this done a lot in the UK), it looks odd and tacky.
Mikey
My oh is looking for positions within banking...... would you mind if she PM with resume and you could comment on whats good or bad with it, would really appreciate your thoughts. Or can you PM me with the australian format for a resume?
Claire (my oh) is beginning to get a bit concerned now after reading this thread, as she was hoping to be set up with an interview or at least have had some telephone interviews and feedback from the applications she has made prior to us leaving in Jabuary for Brisbane. I know January long time away but Claire really wants to be working quite soon after we arrive to help her settle into our new life>
Any thoughts appreciated!
Mike
