hereandthere

I think the murder rates are pushed up by rates in the indigenous communities. If you eliminate them from the stats than the UK has a higher homicide rate, and Australia's is about the same as certain rural US states and eastern Canadian provinces such as Quebec.

Officer Dibble

You need to brush up on the facts. Homicides between indigenous communities barely rate a mention.

Tooterelli

I know...it's a shame as it's one of the few places you can get a decently priced meal in Brisbane. I go (and leave) early..it's just a walk across the Story Bridge for me.

hereandthere

A lot of happens in that neck of the woods barely rates a mention.

kporte

Lets eliminate drug dealers from the UK and US stats too. And jealous lovers?

bcworld

Leaving out all indigenous murders may make the Aus and UK numbers almost identical. NT has the highest murder rate in Aus, 13 last year or about 6 per 100,000 people. Making a huge assumption that all the victims were indigenous and omitting them from the figures (if you think that is a meaningful thing to do) would still give Aus a rate of about 1.14 per 100,000 people roughly. Indigenous people represent less than 3% of the population - they do not significantly skew the figures.

ABCDiamond

Now that's an idea Going off topic

sonlymewalter

Comparing UK to Aus is like comparing apples to pears. In Aus most people live in the burbs where there aren't many pubs so folk who want to get smashed and create havoc including crime tend to go in to the city. It's for this reason we feel safer in Aus than UK as in essence we live away from where most of the crime takes place. This isn't to say crime doesn't happen in the burbs, just that it's more likely to be in the busy city areas.

Personally I'd say crime is less in Aus however the stats say otherwise. I suspect most of the crime is in the cities as opposed to the suburbs.

Broad Shoulders

I'd have to disagree with that. I would actually say that the majority of murders that I hear about in Qld ARE in the suburbs. I don't hear about too many in the city, probably because it is too easy to be seen.
I'd grant you that there is probably more violence, but not murders.

4 I can think of in the last 5 or so years, The Bridgman Downs murders, A guy who cut off another guy's head in Sandgate and joked with his friend that he went bowling with it (Sandgate), there was a guy in Springwood (I think) who held his whole family at gun point and killed some of them. Then there was that one on the Gold Coast burbs last year where a jealous ex shot a woman's fiance during a bbq.

I can't actually recall hearing of any city murders

sonlymewalter

Again, I suppose it's where you live. No right, no wrong, just difference of opinion based on personal experience.

sonlymewalter

One thing I have noticed is the murders when they do occur, seem far more vicious than in UK. Maybe that's just my perception.

Broad Shoulders

Completely agree there!

livinginreality

yeah would have to also agree with that!I read recently (can't recall which part of Oz)that a woman who had apparently endured years of living with a violent OH,shot him,dismembered his body,dumped his torso in the bush (later found by a truckie having a wee)and the cops then found his head buried in the bird avery under a few inches of concrete!Guess the heat gets to some people!

moneypenny20

Just out of interest, what would you consider a less vicious murder?

kporte

Yes the murderers use pillows in Blighty! Good old British gentle murdering, a national treasure