spikeyjo

Hi,

How does Brisbane stack up against the UK for anti-social behavior, teenage knife crime etc etc. Basically all the things why we want to leave the UK.

Are we jumping out the frying pan into fire?

We have 2 young kids aged 1 and 3, and think Uk will be a very dangerous place in 10-15 years for them and wonder if Oz will offer them better security and environment to grow up in.

Any serious thoughts/comments much appreciated

Grayling

If you read the local paper you will see it is no different.

Glasses banned in city centre pubs in favour of plastic to stop 'glassings', Bouncers on every door etc., plenty of knives aad drugs around.

I see as much drunkenness as in the UK....usual panics about teenage binge drinking etc.

Just the same really.

G

Brisben

It all depends where you hang out, I slightly disagree with Grayling, as you don't well I don't see as many kids hanging on street corners, they go to skate parks etc. They take an interest in sport which helps keep them occupied.

In my opinion the UK is worse, not the kids fault, just nothing to do and bad weather..

James516

I got stabbed three times on my way to work this morning. Why did I ever leave Peckham?

Sheilas Wheels

Two guys got SHOT at the McDonalds in Burleigh Heads at the weekend (one died)

spartacus

But that's not Brisbane its the 'Gurld Curst' . . .

spartacus

As others have said, it depends where you live.

Graylings talking about city centre drunkeness which happens on big nights out everywhere.

Personally, on a day to day basis I see much less anti-social behaviour than I did in the UK . . .

DadAgain

I think as long as you steer clear of the popular extremist press you'll be fine. Then again I'm sure that if you put the Daily Mail down and relaxed you'd probably be fine in the UK too!

There was a report of a knifing at our school a few months back (ambulance was called - so news crew showed up, couldnt get details so guessed them) - but I later found out from a source inside the school that a student slipped in home economics class whilst holding a knife and cut their finger. Ambulance was called as a precaution and there was certainly no 'knife-weilding rampage' like the media reports insinuated.

In terms of teenage behaviour - I think Australian teenagers are far better integrated into society than in UK. They aren't demonised anywhere near as heavily as they are in the UK and as a result tend to react much more pleasantly to the general public. High school students on public transport will generaly be courteous and respectful with fellow passengers and things like giving up seats for elderly, pregnant or injured are commonplace. Rudeness by teenagers to other member of the public is often 'self-regulated' with peers not beig impressed with such displays. Teenagers do gather in groups around shopping malls (thats what teenagers do) - but you'd have to be exceptionaly jumpy and nervous to be worried by them

bcworld

I used to see that all the time in Brisbane, in fact most of the kids would give up their seats even before the bus became full in the expectation that it may fill up. But I can tell you it's totally different on the tram route I take into Melbourne - no way they're giving that seat up, for anyone - neither does anyone else mind you so they maybe learn by example! Which is strange because I find other groups of people i.e. drivers, to be far more courteous in Melbourne.

Tooterelli

I'm not usually in the CBD late at night at the weekend however I was there a few weeks ago and found it scarey and this was just from between the restaurant and Eagles Wharf where we catch the ferry from. Lots of aggressive 20-40 year olds fuelled up with alcohol and whatever else.

hereandthere

The UK is seriously more advanced in terms of social degradation, however, you will still see be aware of thugs, scum, drugs, knives, bashings, robberies etc in the Australian press.

My advice would be if you want to be away from the kind of scum that do this thenmove to somewhere small and rural either in the UK or in Aus.

bcworld

If that scared you then you'd better avoid The Valley!!

I've been on trains that have erupted into violence at Brunswick St station (or whatever it's called these days), same on the night buses despite them all having a security guard on board, same in the Brunswick St (endless) taxi queue, same old, same old.......

spartacus

At last . . . someone whose not afraid to 'big up' the UK . . .

Well trousered sir!

hereandthere

Never let it be said I can't say nice things about Britain.

ABCDiamond

As others have said, it does depend very much on the area you live in, the same as it would in the UK.

I am sure the sound of a police car siren would be as much a surprise in some parts of the UK as it would be to me.

There is actually a slightly greater chance of being murdered in Australia than in the UK, but a much reduced chance of being assaulted, according to figures at:
http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausst...45100_2008.pdf
and
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdf...b1109chap3.pdf

I have analysed them, with part being this:
The assault rates vary throughout Australia, but here are the extremes: