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-   -   another ladies question? (https://britishexpats.com/forum/australia-54/another-ladies-question-466558/)

rabsody Jul 16th 2007 4:42 pm
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by hitchcock71 (Post 5061977)
fab question:thumbsup::thumbsup:

do you have the injection contraception in oz???
i need to learn how to multi quote!!! :p

yes, they have the contraceptive injection here. :thumbup:

Ozzidoc Jul 17th 2007 3:28 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by rabsody (Post 5065334)
yes, you can get mirena in aus. the iud does not seem to be a very popular method of contraception over here though for some reason.
It hasn't been around for that long so people aren't aware of it. Many people are still concerned over the Dakron shield saga in the 80s or whenever.

LauraC Jul 17th 2007 4:03 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by Ozzidoc (Post 5067971)
It hasn't been around for that long so people aren't aware of it. Many people are still concerned over the Dakron shield saga in the 80s or whenever.
What's the Dakron shield saga?

Ozzidoc Jul 17th 2007 4:07 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by LauraC (Post 5068136)
What's the Dakron shield saga?
The Dakron shield was an IUD which was initially found to be related to having pelvic inflammatory disease....but later studies proved this not to be the case.....basically there is no increased risk for pelvic infection if you are using an IUD.

LauraC Jul 17th 2007 4:20 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by Ozzidoc (Post 5068152)
The Dakron shield was an IUD which was initially found to be related to having pelvic inflammatory disease....but later studies proved this not to be the case.....basically there is no increased risk for pelvic infection if you are using an IUD.
Thanks. Even though it doesn't cause a problem, I can see how that would put people off having one now.

Good to know about PID and IUDs because I've been checked out for that, don't want to do anything to increase the chance of getting it.

Ozzidoc Jul 17th 2007 4:26 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by LauraC (Post 5068197)
Thanks. Even though it doesn't cause a problem, I can see how that would put people off having one now.

Good to know about PID and IUDs because I've been checked out for that, don't want to do anything to increase the chance of getting it.
PID relates to sexual activity; any of the following puts you at an increased risk:
  • non-monogamous relationship
  • a new partner in the previous 2 months
  • not using condoms
  • under 25 years old
  • increased number of sexual partners
  • The combined pill is associated with an increased risk, but this is behaviour-related, as is smoking.

Here endeth today's lesson :)

LauraC Jul 17th 2007 4:35 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by Ozzidoc (Post 5068219)
PID relates to sexual activity; any of the following puts you at an increased risk:
  • non-monogamous relationship
  • a new partner in the previous 2 months
  • not using condoms
  • under 25 years old
  • increased number of sexual partners
  • The combined pill is associated with an increased risk, but this is behaviour-related, as is smoking.

Here endeth today's lesson :)
Cool, I will follow that advice. Basically people should just protect themselves.

What if you got an infection that had nothing to do with sex? Couldn't that spread around in there?

Ozzidoc Jul 17th 2007 4:39 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by LauraC (Post 5068269)
Cool, I will follow that advice. Basically people should just protect themselves.

What if you got an infection that had nothing to do with sex? Couldn't that spread around in there?
There are some infections that aren't sexually transmitted, however they usually stay in the vagina/perineum rather than ascending and ending up in the tubes. I'm thinking bacterial vaginosis, candida, etc

LauraC Jul 17th 2007 4:46 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by Ozzidoc (Post 5068287)
There are some infections that aren't sexually transmitted, however they usually stay in the vagina/perineum rather than ascending and ending up in the tubes. I'm thinking bacterial vaginosis, candida, etc
Those were the ones I was thinking of especially BV. Thanks for telling me it doesn't really move further in. Is the test for that a cervical swab?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what do you think of the cervical cancer injection? Is it true it only protects against 4 forms of HPV out of 100s of them? Smears would still be necessary after that wouldn't they?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to decide if I should go for the injection.

Ozzidoc Jul 17th 2007 5:08 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by LauraC (Post 5068323)
Those were the ones I was thinking of especially BV. Thanks for telling me it doesn't really move further in. Is the test for that a cervical swab?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what do you think of the cervical cancer injection? Is it true it only protects against 4 forms of HPV out of 100s of them? Smears would still be necessary after that wouldn't they?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to decide if I should go for the injection.
Yes, a cervical swab is the test :)

Regarding the vaccine, it's my understanding that the four forms (strains/versions) of HPV are responsible for approximately 85 or 90% of cervical cancer. The vaccine is best given before any sexual activity occurs, hence it being given to young teens/pre-teens. A large proportion (possibly 70%) of people who have been sexually active will already have HPV - not all strains actually cause warts, so one does not actually know if one has an HPV virus.

I would imagine that smears will still be required, but I really dont know. The smear is just a screening test, and down the track it may not be an effective screening test. (ie not meet the criteria established by two people called Wilson & Junger...spelling)

If I had children then I certainly would be having them "done". I've not considered it for myself as I have naturally assumed that statistically I already have it.

Hope this helps.

black cat Jul 17th 2007 5:23 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by LauraC (Post 5068323)
Those were the ones I was thinking of especially BV. Thanks for telling me it doesn't really move further in. Is the test for that a cervical swab?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what do you think of the cervical cancer injection? Is it true it only protects against 4 forms of HPV out of 100s of them? Smears would still be necessary after that wouldn't they?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to decide if I should go for the injection.
Hi Laura, in this country you are given swabs prior to fitting of the merena to rule out any nasties.

minibelle Jul 17th 2007 5:31 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by LauraC (Post 5062550)
Nope. I expect it hurt quite a bit though! Do they even put them in women who haven't had kids?
Hi LauraC

I have an IUD fitted and have no children, if you take some pain killers before you go you should be ok, luckily mine only needs changing every 10 years. I have heard its less painful if you have had children, but i am happy to think its less painful than having them, i will worry about that in a few years :)

minibelle

black cat Jul 17th 2007 6:00 am
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by minibelle (Post 5068483)
Hi LauraC

I have an IUD fitted and have no children, if you take some pain killers before you go you should be ok, luckily mine only needs changing every 10 years. I have heard its less painful if you have had children, but i am happy to think its less painful than having them, i will worry about that in a few years :)

minibelle
Yes definitely less painful than having kids!!!!:eek:

LauraC Jul 17th 2007 7:46 pm
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by Ozzidoc (Post 5068419)
Yes, a cervical swab is the test :)

Regarding the vaccine, it's my understanding that the four forms (strains/versions) of HPV are responsible for approximately 85 or 90% of cervical cancer. The vaccine is best given before any sexual activity occurs, hence it being given to young teens/pre-teens. A large proportion (possibly 70%) of people who have been sexually active will already have HPV - not all strains actually cause warts, so one does not actually know if one has an HPV virus.

I would imagine that smears will still be required, but I really dont know. The smear is just a screening test, and down the track it may not be an effective screening test. (ie not meet the criteria established by two people called Wilson & Junger...spelling)

If I had children then I certainly would be having them "done". I've not considered it for myself as I have naturally assumed that statistically I already have it.

Hope this helps.
Would it be a good idea to be screened for HPV before considering the vaccine then? As long as you don't have any of the main 4 that can lead to cancer you should be OK to have the vaccine, right?

I've just found out, thanks to BE :) , that I'm currently eligable for the vaccine in Aus and I'm just trying to decide whether I should do it or not.

LauraC Jul 17th 2007 7:49 pm
Re: another ladies question?
 
Originally Posted by black cat (Post 5068593)
Yes definitely less painful than having kids!!!!:eek:
Well that's good to know from someone who can compare! :D


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