Adelaide or Perth
 

I am presently in the process of emigrating and waiting for my 136 visa. My intention was to move to Perth but now with the soaring house prices I feel I may have to look at other options.

I am hopefully going to do a rekki in April/May of next year because I have never been over to Australia.

Can anybody please advise me on the advantages and the disadvantages of Adelaide or Perth if I don't settle in Perth, Adelaide may be my next option.

Your ideas on this would be greatly appreciated.

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I guess the bottom line is the amount you can spend on a house and the line of work you and/or your partner are in.

Perth's nice but do you really want to spend the next 30 years mortgaged up to the hilt and/or living in a dodgy neighbourhood cos that's all you could afford?

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We had intended on going to Perth right up until a few weeks before we came over. Ended up in Adelaide and we love it. No high rise buildings in the CBD which is very different to where we came from and it's very spread out.
You really have to check out both places when you come over on your reccie. They are entirely different and what one person likes another may not.

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So the 30 level Santos house is not tall ;) i guess by world standards ?...... :beer: mm

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We moved from Toronto where my husband's office was on the 46th floor. It was not the top of the building, either. How many other buildings are there over about 10 storeys?

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We have lived in both places but it is your choice.I found Adelaide to be more of a sprawl than Perth.As it is hemmed in by the hills more than Perth traffic can be a nightmare.We liked having a beer in Port Adelaide but it has changed a lot since then,Hahndorf is good for the german heritage (not good if you don't like germans),but you need four wheel drive on your buggy for the hills on the golf course there,and a ton of bananas to keep energy levels up.Don't be put off by the constant complaining of house prices in Perth,it started from a low base,there are many properties for $350,000 to $400,000.Little Saigon,(Queenstown and down Grand Junction rd to Arndale) seemed to be causing angst when we lived there,don't know how it is now.There were a lot of old houses in Adelaide down Port Rd and other areas and a lot of the rental properties we looked at were ready for demolition.The choice would be down to yourself,I wouldn't be having my life run by an opinion poll.but, up to you.

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I think you are going to have to spend some time in both cities before you decide whats right for you and your family!!!

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Hi

I would suggest doing a recci in both places. We need to validate, so will be over in January, and we are going to both Perth and Adelaide for a look see.

Storms

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I have cousins in Hamilton Ont they reckon its a S**T hole :rolleyes: .....??.. :beer: mm

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Neither. Go to Kalgoorlie. More interesting.

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You do right checking out somewhere else. Perth is too expensive and some new friends of ours arrived here 7 weeks ago and are heading back to UK already as they can't afford anything decent here. Interest rates still on the up also :mad:

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Exactly. $400k is approx. GBP160k. There are a lot of places in the UK where you can't get much for that. You can still get good value in Perth.

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Not going to get much for 400k anywhere in Perth. Unless you want to live in Mirabooka .

Lets not pretend Perth is good value, it's as expensive as Sydney.

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Hi debsnshaun

Have a look at this site www.livingin-australia.com it gives profiles of Adelaide & Perth and some pros & cons of living in both places. You might feel you sway to one over the other.
We are moving to Perth in January.We have never been to Australia, & we are not doing a reccie but after lots of research Perth came out tops for me.
Obviously if you can afford to do a reccie to both this would be the best option, otherwise you're going to have to go with your gut feeling, because everyone will have their own opinions & this won't necessarily match what you want out of life.

Good Luck

Leigh :)

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A good link that one.

Perth is only 25% more expensive than Adelaide which is cheapest according to that so as usual theres hype with Perth.

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Thats a really good read Leigh. Thanks for that.

When in January are you heading off to Perth?

Lynne

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So the 30 level Santos house is not tall i guess by world standards ?...... mm

Exactly.. Adelaide IS "the Santos building"... Theres bigger apartment blocks that that ;)

Adelaide it a large town.. not a city.

Its a tough choice, we picked Adelaide..Perth, albeit a lot nicer.. was too far away from anywhere else..for our frequent weekends away & skiing.

Adelaides too quiet for us, and the house prices in some places are not worth it..compared to other states.. but you can get cheap but you will be living miles away from the city, or in a dodgy bit.

Good luck, they really are two different places, Perth, pricey but very nice.. Adelaide, cheaper but not as nice :)

K

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But generally still cheaper than the UK, where most of the people on this site are moving from.

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I'm not sure that's the case, cheaper than the south east of England for sure.

Don't forget the mean income in WA is about $55,000 - about 22 thousand quid if we're doing comparisons :eek:

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Adelaide or Perth - my opinion, neither, they both seem places poms move on from. Geography and distance may be one reason, which means you tire of whats to do after some months. Not everyone but quite common.

Have been to both places nothing looked visually wrong with either (certain areas excluded of course) more a creeping feeling of what would I do there after 6 months. All of our kids had 'get me out of here" opinions on both places too.

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Defnitely cheaper than the south east of England, what about if compared to living within 10KM of any major UK city?
Or living within 10KM of the ocean?


I bet the mean household income is more like $80K nowdays, most homes with one income are probably only single income because they can afford to be and probably have a relatively high income, and I bet more often than not there's two incomes coming into most households giving a combined in excess of around the $80K mark.
A lot of household incomes would be in excess of $120K.

I dont trust the $55K figure it was only around 12 months ago the average was supposedly something like $40K so its jumped $15K in that time thats nearly 40% increase, I dont know anyone at any level of the market thats got a 40% pay increase in the last year.
I wonder if its something to do with the tax rates changing and people with company setups that they work through (which there are a hell of lot in WA) are able to push through more as salaries now, (but still carry on taking the same again through expenses etc. which probably doesnt count against the state average...)

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True - but houses in Oz are made of matchsticks and cardboard. :D

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I can here him stirring in his sleep.... be prepared to be "Vash'd :D :D
Even better your in Adelaide, he'll be super defensive ;)

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A friend of ours out here has just sold his house, a modern but nice detached 3x1 near Middlesborough for just over GBP180k. So that's AUD450k. He will be able to get something out here for that.
In reality, I reckon average incomes are about the same UK/Oz.

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Adelaide is boring with not much going on at all. House prices are creeping up here slowly too. Most people only come to Adelaide because they have to (state sponsorship) there are quite a few people that have moved to Perth or Queensland. We never even considered Adelaide until the points went up in 2004 and wanted to go to Brissy. I suppose we have to thank SA for the only opportunity we had at the time.
If you have a 136 you can go anywhere, so why stop at Perth or Adelaide.
There are far more job opportunities in states other than Adelaide, so if you can go elsewhere then I would.
Adelaide is ok if you are over 50 and are ready for retirement.

Julie

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There is nothing wrong with Adelaide. It may not be everyones cup of tea but for me it presses all the right buttons. I don't find it dull or boring, I'm nowhere near 50 and certainly not ready for retirement either. ;)

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Each to their own Wendy,we all want different things. I don't want a buzzing place to live but it would be nice to go somewhere exciting sometimes. I'm afraid if Glenelg is their best resort, then sorry it doesn't do it for me.
The most exciting place they have got is the very over priced Beach House and a delapidated "Greenhills adventure park"
There are only so many times you can visit Hahndorf, gorge wildlife park and Victor Harbor. :zzz:

Julie

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Each to their own, exactly that's why the OP needs to decide for themselves. No point any of us telling them to go here or there cos at the end of the day it depends what they want. :)

FWIW, I'm not keen on Glenelg :D

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More like $436k after stamp of about $15k plus $7k first home owners.

Sure he'll be able to get something, but it won't be very nice. Probably nicer than Middlesbro though. Do a search on the realestate site, it's places like Mirabooka and Wanneroo.

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$389K, 750sqm block, 13km city about 5km to ocean. possible to walk to the train if your keen!

http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin...&tm=1164265783

Bargain buying ;) Not what everyone is looking for but nothing wrong with it and for the price, I think its value.

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Hamilton is very industrial. It's where all the steel is milled, so lots of air pollution. And yes, it is a sh*t hole. Although, there are some nice areas of the city, the west end is where McMaster University is and the mountain is quite nice. Lots of Italian and Portugese immigrants in Hamilton as well as a very large Jewish population. We lived in Burlington, which is about 10 km northeast of Hamilton, just across the tip of Lake Ontario.

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I wouldn't go to either but that's me. A real question, not sarcy or anything (for once) why do people ask total strangers the best place for them, who no one kn :confused: ows, to live?
I think I "know" some of you fairly well after three or four years but, no offence, I probably wouldn't ask some the time of day :D :D

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Didn't the average median house price inthe UK for a 3bed semi hit GBP200k recently? I remember when it hit 100k in 2000 - it must be at least zulu's GBP160 now.

I stil think for many Australia is affordable - it's just where you might end up!

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you right with that one ,its got to be one of the best aussie towns around .

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I had a momentary insane moment when I even thought of staying there for a while. I quite like places like that with a bit of character.

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We came to Perth nine months ago with a fairly substantial safety net to buy a house, cars, furnishings etc etc.

We are going to carry a mortgage comparable to the loan we had a home.

The dreams of mortgage free living are exactly that ...

Perth IS expensive in my opinion and over inflated in terms of what you are actually getting for your money. The build quality of new homes here is very very poor.

Average block prices are shrinking month by month to the point where 450m2 sounds decent ... laughable by the way, it's tiny.

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Totally agree. I've never understood how people can ask these kind of questons on this site.
I think Brisbane/SE Qld is a complete craphole but my opinion is based on my experience of the place rather than questions asked here.

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Hi Lynne

Flights are booked for the 30th. How about you? What happened with your house? I remember you struggling to sell it the same time as us. We've ended up letting it.

To those of you who are slating the op, for asking about Perth or Adelaide, is this not what this forum is all about :confused: It's just a question to get some ideas about both places, having never been. Don't worry desnshaun most people on here are helpful :rolleyes:

Leigh

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Absolutely. What's right for some is definitely not right for others. My family couldn't understand why we didn't want to go to Brisbane where my sister lives. It's just not the place we want to be is all. Adelaide was what we thought looked best for our family, but we did our own research and decided for ourselves. Yes, we did ask others' opinions, but most of that went out the window long before we left home.

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I assume you meant to say "Average block sizes are shrinking month by month"? ;)

Our block is 636m2 - which isn't huge....but on the new land releases they are even smaller than that, with some even as small as 350m2.