47sk spouse
Aug 25th 2006 | 8:14 pm
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47sk spouse
Did you all go through this little lot?
I thought the marriage certificate would be enough but it seems we have to write a novel i will call mine "to hell and back"!!
Evidence of the history of your relationship
Both you and your spouse should provide a statement including all of the following:
how, when and where you first met
how your relationship developed
when you decided to marry or commence your de facto (common law) relationship
your domestic arrangements, that is, how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
any periods of separation, when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation
your future plans.
Note: Your statement does not need to be made on a statutory declaration form. Your statement or statutory declaration must, however, be signed by the author.
Evidence of a genuine and continuing relationship
There are four broad categories of evidence that you need to provide.
financial aspects:
sharing of finances, household bills and expenses, such as joint bank accounts, joint ownership of real estate or other assets
the household:
your living arrangements such as joint ownership of your house or joint names on a lease, correspondence addressed to both of you at the same address, joint responsibility for children
social context:
evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially, such as joint invitations, evidence of common friends, assessments by your friends and family of your relationship, joint travel or joint participation in sporting, social or cultural activities
your commitment:
knowledge of each other, intention that your relationship will be long term, through things such as the terms of your wills, and correspondence and phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any periods of separation.
Thank you all again for any replies.
Lee
I thought the marriage certificate would be enough but it seems we have to write a novel i will call mine "to hell and back"!!
Evidence of the history of your relationship
Both you and your spouse should provide a statement including all of the following:
how, when and where you first met
how your relationship developed
when you decided to marry or commence your de facto (common law) relationship
your domestic arrangements, that is, how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
any periods of separation, when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation
your future plans.
Note: Your statement does not need to be made on a statutory declaration form. Your statement or statutory declaration must, however, be signed by the author.
Evidence of a genuine and continuing relationship
There are four broad categories of evidence that you need to provide.
financial aspects:
sharing of finances, household bills and expenses, such as joint bank accounts, joint ownership of real estate or other assets
the household:
your living arrangements such as joint ownership of your house or joint names on a lease, correspondence addressed to both of you at the same address, joint responsibility for children
social context:
evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially, such as joint invitations, evidence of common friends, assessments by your friends and family of your relationship, joint travel or joint participation in sporting, social or cultural activities
your commitment:
knowledge of each other, intention that your relationship will be long term, through things such as the terms of your wills, and correspondence and phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any periods of separation.
Thank you all again for any replies.
Lee
Aug 25th 2006 | 8:15 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by leewilson
Did you all go through this little lot?
I thought the marriage certificate would be enough but it seems we have to write a novel i will call mine "to hell and back"!!
Evidence of the history of your relationship
Both you and your spouse should provide a statement including all of the following:
how, when and where you first met
how your relationship developed
when you decided to marry or commence your de facto (common law) relationship
your domestic arrangements, that is, how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
any periods of separation, when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation
your future plans.
Note: Your statement does not need to be made on a statutory declaration form. Your statement or statutory declaration must, however, be signed by the author.
Evidence of a genuine and continuing relationship
There are four broad categories of evidence that you need to provide.
financial aspects:
sharing of finances, household bills and expenses, such as joint bank accounts, joint ownership of real estate or other assets
the household:
your living arrangements such as joint ownership of your house or joint names on a lease, correspondence addressed to both of you at the same address, joint responsibility for children
social context:
evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially, such as joint invitations, evidence of common friends, assessments by your friends and family of your relationship, joint travel or joint participation in sporting, social or cultural activities
your commitment:
knowledge of each other, intention that your relationship will be long term, through things such as the terms of your wills, and correspondence and phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any periods of separation.
Thank you all again for any replies.
Lee
I thought the marriage certificate would be enough but it seems we have to write a novel i will call mine "to hell and back"!!
Evidence of the history of your relationship
Both you and your spouse should provide a statement including all of the following:
how, when and where you first met
how your relationship developed
when you decided to marry or commence your de facto (common law) relationship
your domestic arrangements, that is, how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
any periods of separation, when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation
your future plans.
Note: Your statement does not need to be made on a statutory declaration form. Your statement or statutory declaration must, however, be signed by the author.
Evidence of a genuine and continuing relationship
There are four broad categories of evidence that you need to provide.
financial aspects:
sharing of finances, household bills and expenses, such as joint bank accounts, joint ownership of real estate or other assets
the household:
your living arrangements such as joint ownership of your house or joint names on a lease, correspondence addressed to both of you at the same address, joint responsibility for children
social context:
evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially, such as joint invitations, evidence of common friends, assessments by your friends and family of your relationship, joint travel or joint participation in sporting, social or cultural activities
your commitment:
knowledge of each other, intention that your relationship will be long term, through things such as the terms of your wills, and correspondence and phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any periods of separation.
Thank you all again for any replies.
Lee
Aug 25th 2006 | 8:32 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
Yep, had to do all that.
Folder was over an inch thick by the time we sent it off.
We did it all to the letter, front loaded my meds and got visa within 48hrs of posting!
Good luck,
Gemma
Folder was over an inch thick by the time we sent it off.
We did it all to the letter, front loaded my meds and got visa within 48hrs of posting!
Good luck,
Gemma
Aug 25th 2006 | 9:47 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by foxall22
Yep, had to do all that.
Folder was over an inch thick by the time we sent it off.
We did it all to the letter, front loaded my meds and got visa within 48hrs of posting!
Good luck,
Gemma
Folder was over an inch thick by the time we sent it off.
We did it all to the letter, front loaded my meds and got visa within 48hrs of posting!
Good luck,
Gemma
Aug 26th 2006 | 1:06 am
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by leewilson
Did you all go through this little lot?
I thought the marriage certificate would be enough but it seems we have to write a novel i will call mine "to hell and back"!!
Evidence of the history of your relationship
Both you and your spouse should provide a statement including all of the following:
how, when and where you first met
how your relationship developed
when you decided to marry or commence your de facto (common law) relationship
your domestic arrangements, that is, how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
any periods of separation, when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation
your future plans.
Note: Your statement does not need to be made on a statutory declaration form. Your statement or statutory declaration must, however, be signed by the author.
Evidence of a genuine and continuing relationship
There are four broad categories of evidence that you need to provide.
financial aspects:
sharing of finances, household bills and expenses, such as joint bank accounts, joint ownership of real estate or other assets
the household:
your living arrangements such as joint ownership of your house or joint names on a lease, correspondence addressed to both of you at the same address, joint responsibility for children
social context:
evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially, such as joint invitations, evidence of common friends, assessments by your friends and family of your relationship, joint travel or joint participation in sporting, social or cultural activities
your commitment:
knowledge of each other, intention that your relationship will be long term, through things such as the terms of your wills, and correspondence and phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any periods of separation.
Thank you all again for any replies.
Lee
I thought the marriage certificate would be enough but it seems we have to write a novel i will call mine "to hell and back"!!
Evidence of the history of your relationship
Both you and your spouse should provide a statement including all of the following:
how, when and where you first met
how your relationship developed
when you decided to marry or commence your de facto (common law) relationship
your domestic arrangements, that is, how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
any periods of separation, when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation
your future plans.
Note: Your statement does not need to be made on a statutory declaration form. Your statement or statutory declaration must, however, be signed by the author.
Evidence of a genuine and continuing relationship
There are four broad categories of evidence that you need to provide.
financial aspects:
sharing of finances, household bills and expenses, such as joint bank accounts, joint ownership of real estate or other assets
the household:
your living arrangements such as joint ownership of your house or joint names on a lease, correspondence addressed to both of you at the same address, joint responsibility for children
social context:
evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially, such as joint invitations, evidence of common friends, assessments by your friends and family of your relationship, joint travel or joint participation in sporting, social or cultural activities
your commitment:
knowledge of each other, intention that your relationship will be long term, through things such as the terms of your wills, and correspondence and phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any periods of separation.
Thank you all again for any replies.
Lee
If you are married and have a marriage certificate you do not need to do this!!
Nick
Aug 26th 2006 | 3:20 am
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by nickos12
HI
If you are married and have a marriage certificate you do not need to do this!!
Nick
If you are married and have a marriage certificate you do not need to do this!!
Nick
Aug 26th 2006 | 3:34 am
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by leewilson
The above was taken from the 136 checklist and it does seem to be quite clear. they have made changes, 1 july this year.
Grrrr new you had to provide alot, but blimey - at least we have loads of friends and family who will write statements and also have council tax bills in joint names for the time we've been together. No joint bank accounts though.
Guess it all has to be done the same for my OH who is travelling with me on a 457 business Long stay too.
Aug 26th 2006 | 7:35 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by leewilson
The above was taken from the 136 checklist and it does seem to be quite clear. they have made changes, 1 july this year.
Hmm... seems to remember something about this discussion some time ago in the Migration Forum... I'll look around for it...
CHEERS.
Aug 26th 2006 | 7:43 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
Here we go:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382581
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...ge+certificate
I'd listen to what Alan Collett said in the first thread... (if you don't know Alan, you need to spend more time in the Migration Forum), no point doing all the work if you didn't actually have to...
From what I gathered, further prove (for Skilled Visas) is only required for "de facto" relationships, not legally married couples with marriage certificates (and kids!).
Sorry, for spouse visas and others (ie pros marriage), thick novels required
Nevertheless, if in doubt, feel free to put in your novel
Could be an interesting read for the CO
All the best to everyone with the application!
CHEERS
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382581
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...ge+certificate
I'd listen to what Alan Collett said in the first thread... (if you don't know Alan, you need to spend more time in the Migration Forum), no point doing all the work if you didn't actually have to...
From what I gathered, further prove (for Skilled Visas) is only required for "de facto" relationships, not legally married couples with marriage certificates (and kids!).
Sorry, for spouse visas and others (ie pros marriage), thick novels required
Nevertheless, if in doubt, feel free to put in your novel
Could be an interesting read for the CO All the best to everyone with the application!
CHEERS
Last edited by zeny; Aug 26th 2006 at 7:56 pm.
Aug 26th 2006 | 7:47 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by zeny
Here we go:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382581
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...ge+certificate
I'd listen to Alan Collett... (if you don't know Alan, you need to spend more time in the Migration Forum), no point doing all the work if you didn't actually have to...
From what I gathered, further prove (for Skilled Visas) is only required for "de facto" relationships, not legally married couples with marriage certificates (and kids!).
Sorry, for spouse visas and others (ie pros marriage), thick novels required
Nevertheless, if in doubt, feel free to put in your novel Could be an interesting read for the CO
All the best to everyone with the application!
CHEERS
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382581
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...ge+certificate
I'd listen to Alan Collett... (if you don't know Alan, you need to spend more time in the Migration Forum), no point doing all the work if you didn't actually have to...
From what I gathered, further prove (for Skilled Visas) is only required for "de facto" relationships, not legally married couples with marriage certificates (and kids!).
Sorry, for spouse visas and others (ie pros marriage), thick novels required
Nevertheless, if in doubt, feel free to put in your novel
Could be an interesting read for the CO All the best to everyone with the application!
CHEERS
Aug 26th 2006 | 8:03 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
I had a marriage certificate and I had to submit a novel to immigration.
CHEERS
Aug 26th 2006 | 8:07 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
I had a marriage certificate and I had to submit a novel to immigration.
Aug 26th 2006 | 8:08 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
I would still send the proof on the checklist if they did not require it they would not have added it. I think that any agent telling a client otherwise is just lazy.You can send off your proof and it will be added to your application. Its a lot of money to spend i am going to make sure everything is there as i applied after the changes on july 1st.
lee
lee
Aug 26th 2006 | 8:16 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by Teliko21
Did it read like a Mills and Boon novel?
Ha-ha. Not quite.
Aug 26th 2006 | 8:54 pm
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Re: 47sk spouse
Originally Posted by leewilson
I would still send the proof on the checklist if they did not require it they would not have added it. I think that any agent telling a client otherwise is just lazy.You can send off your proof and it will be added to your application. Its a lot of money to spend i am going to make sure everything is there as i applied after the changes on july 1st.
lee
lee
Then, why bother asking in the forum in the first place...
I doubt anyone who frequents BE Forums would even imply that Alan Collett is lazy. Considering that he is offering help on the forum without any obligation.
Anyway, the "Checklist" has been known to contain many mistakes in the past. I wouldn't rely much on it except as a guide to complete the application.
Like I mentioned, it's really up to each individual whether to send additional prove or not. Notwithstanding those who were advised by their agents not to do so...
Good Luck!
CHEERS
