$80000 a year needed
Jan 27th 2005, 5:25 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by mlbonner
Blue-ish skies in the city - first time I've seen that in about 48 hours!!
.But for those that aren't here, even though its been "raining" the temperatures have been between 21.7 & 31.3 C for the last 7 days, day and night, so it hasn't been cold
Jan 27th 2005, 5:38 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by Grayling
Hi All
A while ago, on this forum, Among all the various debates there used to also be some very useful pieces of information helpful to would-be migrants.
If these were 'positive' they would recieve a lot of attention.
If they were seen as 'negative' they would be rubbished or attacked.
Lately posts seem to be mainly about visas and how to get them or about the process. There have also been a lot of amusing, silly,sad, nasty and frivolous threads.
There is an important ongoing thread by HEVS and HUP which deserves attention.
They are describing a difficult time in their new life.Not negatively but very honestly.
One phrase of HUP's has struck me.
Apologies to HUP for using a quote from that thread:
"I would suggest that for a family of four you will need an income of around $80000".
Think about it.
How many people will have that income without both partners working?
What will that do to dreams of :' more time with family','escape from the Rat Race', 'Quality of life' etc. etc?
This is the kind of issue we should be discussing.
I am starting this thread so this simple statement does not get lost.
Thanks HUP
Best wishes
G
A while ago, on this forum, Among all the various debates there used to also be some very useful pieces of information helpful to would-be migrants.
If these were 'positive' they would recieve a lot of attention.
If they were seen as 'negative' they would be rubbished or attacked.
Lately posts seem to be mainly about visas and how to get them or about the process. There have also been a lot of amusing, silly,sad, nasty and frivolous threads.
There is an important ongoing thread by HEVS and HUP which deserves attention.
They are describing a difficult time in their new life.Not negatively but very honestly.
One phrase of HUP's has struck me.
Apologies to HUP for using a quote from that thread:
"I would suggest that for a family of four you will need an income of around $80000".
Think about it.
How many people will have that income without both partners working?
What will that do to dreams of :' more time with family','escape from the Rat Race', 'Quality of life' etc. etc?
This is the kind of issue we should be discussing.
I am starting this thread so this simple statement does not get lost.
Thanks HUP
Best wishes
G
Unless you come with enough money to buy a home outright then you will need significantly more than 70K to live here. Still at least the weather is warmer.
optus (aways on the phone)
Jan 27th 2005, 5:40 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by The Bloke
Nice weather for the time of year though (that a safe enough subject?) 
Jan 27th 2005, 5:55 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by optus
To buy a modest home in the 300K margin (you only will get a hell hole for less than that)
Jan 27th 2005, 5:58 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by optus
For what it is worth, I earn $71,000 and you can’t live on that here in sunny Oz. Remember, 71K only equates after tax to $3352.66. To buy a modest home in the 300K margin (you only will get a hell hole for less than that) the mortgage repayments come to $1900 a month. This does not leave you with very much to live on for the rest of the month. Where as in the UK earning 30K I had a good lifestyle with plenty of disposable income.
Unless you come with enough money to buy a home outright then you will need significantly more than 70K to live here. Still at least the weather is warmer.
optus (aways on the phone)
Unless you come with enough money to buy a home outright then you will need significantly more than 70K to live here. Still at least the weather is warmer.
optus (aways on the phone)
Should be aiming to have bought back the house from the bank by age 30 to 45, allowing savings to be acculmulated. Better, save up and buy with cash.
Jan 27th 2005, 6:07 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by optus
For what it is worth, I earn $71,000 and you can’t live on that here in sunny Oz. Remember, 71K only equates after tax to $3352.66. To buy a modest home in the 300K margin (you only will get a hell hole for less than that) the mortgage repayments come to $1900 a month. This does not leave you with very much to live on for the rest of the month. Where as in the UK earning 30K I had a good lifestyle with plenty of disposable income.
Unless you come with enough money to buy a home outright then you will need significantly more than 70K to live here. Still at least the weather is warmer.
optus (aways on the phone)
Unless you come with enough money to buy a home outright then you will need significantly more than 70K to live here. Still at least the weather is warmer.
optus (aways on the phone)
A lot of it depends where in Aus you are - which you don't say? And there are numerous decent places here for less than $300 (Qld). In fact I bet a few people on here would object to having their homes called 'Hell holes' !
Jan 27th 2005, 6:46 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by Phoenixuk2oz
Oer.....good point. Maybe another topic to stay clear of eh
Coffee and cheesecake?
Last edited by The Bloke; Jan 27th 2005 at 6:56 am.
Jan 27th 2005, 6:53 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by optus
For what it is worth, I earn $71,000 and you can’t live on that here in sunny Oz. Remember, 71K only equates after tax to $3352.66. To buy a modest home in the 300K margin (you only will get a hell hole for less than that) the mortgage repayments come to $1900 a month. This does not leave you with very much to live on for the rest of the month. Where as in the UK earning 30K I had a good lifestyle with plenty of disposable income.
Unless you come with enough money to buy a home outright then you will need significantly more than 70K to live here. Still at least the weather is warmer.
optus (aways on the phone)
Unless you come with enough money to buy a home outright then you will need significantly more than 70K to live here. Still at least the weather is warmer.
optus (aways on the phone)
Last edited by The Bloke; Jan 27th 2005 at 6:59 am.
Jan 27th 2005, 7:41 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by The Bloke
Nice weather for the time of year though (that a safe enough subject?)
M
Feb 1st 2005, 1:41 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by Pollyana
Our combined incomes are less than that, and we are surviving....
A lot of it depends where in Aus you are - which you don't say? And there are numerous decent places here for less than $300 (Qld). In fact I bet a few people on here would object to having their homes called 'Hell holes' !
A lot of it depends where in Aus you are - which you don't say? And there are numerous decent places here for less than $300 (Qld). In fact I bet a few people on here would object to having their homes called 'Hell holes' !
You guys are having rain?? pah surely not, it never rains in Straya
Its bloody stinkin hot here in Melbourne,(WE NEEEED RAIN) ha, course it isn't, we all know Melly weathers terrible and just like Britain, silly ole me :rolleyesThis thread has made me chuckle. All the poms telling us how cheap it is to live in utopia, guess they know best *piiiissstt, were we ever this bad??*
Joking apart, there are heaps of variables in circumstance to weigh up and its never black and white for anyone.
Feb 1st 2005, 1:45 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by hevs
Joking apart, there are heaps of variables in circumstance to weigh up and its never black and white for anyone.
Feb 1st 2005, 1:47 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by Pollyana
One of those cases where each individual has to live it to know the reality?
I have some shocking news that is reality. I am liking beetroot :scared: I am truly living on the dark side now
Feb 1st 2005, 1:52 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by hevs
I am liking beetroot
just make sure it stays locked in its Tupperware box while I'm around You dark horse, you've become an Aussie on the quiet
Feb 1st 2005, 1:59 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by hevs
I reckon
I have some shocking news that is reality. I am liking beetroot :scared: I am truly living on the dark side now
I have some shocking news that is reality. I am liking beetroot :scared: I am truly living on the dark side now
Feb 1st 2005, 2:03 am
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Re: $80000 a year needed
Originally Posted by bondipom
Bloody weirdos.