Is this offensive?
Jan 24th 2008 | 4:11 am
#106
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Re: Is this offensive?
All I can do is offer advice
1 Accept responsibility for the wrong doing
2 Beg God for forgiveness
3 Offer an apology publicly to those affected
4 Ask for their forgiveness
5 Hope they can forgive
6 Learn to love and respect each other irrespective of differences
7 Start to rebuild Africa as one people united, irrespective of colour, creed or race. This may involve redistributing wealth and building up of all communities.
It can be done if the will is there !!
That is the backbone
1 Accept responsibility for the wrong doing
2 Beg God for forgiveness
3 Offer an apology publicly to those affected
4 Ask for their forgiveness
5 Hope they can forgive
6 Learn to love and respect each other irrespective of differences
7 Start to rebuild Africa as one people united, irrespective of colour, creed or race. This may involve redistributing wealth and building up of all communities.
It can be done if the will is there !!
That is the backbone
Consider this: perhaps if busy-bodies like you had not started sticking their oar in in Africa, things would be fine. YOU are the reason Africa is the hellhole is has become. You are the one with the blood on your hands. You are the one who should get on your knees and grovel for forgiveness. Armchair know-nothings sitting comfortably in the West and pontificating about what Africa needs and doesn't need.
Last edited by Pablo; Jan 24th 2008 at 4:17 am.
Jan 24th 2008 | 4:12 am
#107
Happily hungover
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From: Runcorn, via Africa and parts unknown.
Re: Is this offensive?
As Bob Marley sang, "one love, one love, lets get together and feel alright" !!!
More like 'let's get together and have a fight'
Please do not give me the one has to be there to be involved and understand.
African history goes back thousands of years before a European stepped foot on the continent, and you are no more an authority on this history than me.
The current crisis in Africa has been caused by years of strife and turmoil, a lot occuerrd before any of us was born, so how you going to discuss that ERA by being there ? Jumping into a time machine ?
The lifestyle of thousands of Africans hasn't changed in hundreds of years - some of us know this by reading books, while others have witnessed it first-hand.
You guys seemed to be so tunnelled vision that you cannot see the blatant truth of the matter staring you in the face.
What truth? Yours, or the real one?
don't tell me about tribalism, tribalism has existed in Europe from the beginning of time so whats new ?
If you think European tribalism is the same as African tribalism, I suggest you change your library.
Lets talk about the millions of little African children who die year in year out, whilst for some the greed of Africa's riches turn there concience cold to these blatant facts.
Yes, let's. Let's blame the rest of the world for a burgeoning birthrate that is unsustainable. In the animal kingdom, only the strong survive - we are no different.
The suffering and wickedness bestowed amongst the blacks can never be forgotten. And the wickedness caused by whites and blacks against these people can never be forgotten.
Which people, specifically?
Just do not try and brush it under the carpet, because until someone accepts responsibilty and apology how can Africa possibly progress ?
Why should we apologise for something that started thousands of years ago?
Just out of interest, do your books tell you when slavery started in Africa?
Believe me I am also aware and well versed on the wicked Black dictators in Africa and they to will one day have to stand before God and give an account for their wicked actions.
I doubt whether He cares
This is not just about black or white, evil and wickedness has no colour !!!!
This is about the only sensible thing you've said.
More like 'let's get together and have a fight'
Please do not give me the one has to be there to be involved and understand.
African history goes back thousands of years before a European stepped foot on the continent, and you are no more an authority on this history than me.
The current crisis in Africa has been caused by years of strife and turmoil, a lot occuerrd before any of us was born, so how you going to discuss that ERA by being there ? Jumping into a time machine ?
The lifestyle of thousands of Africans hasn't changed in hundreds of years - some of us know this by reading books, while others have witnessed it first-hand.
You guys seemed to be so tunnelled vision that you cannot see the blatant truth of the matter staring you in the face.
What truth? Yours, or the real one?
don't tell me about tribalism, tribalism has existed in Europe from the beginning of time so whats new ?
If you think European tribalism is the same as African tribalism, I suggest you change your library.
Lets talk about the millions of little African children who die year in year out, whilst for some the greed of Africa's riches turn there concience cold to these blatant facts.
Yes, let's. Let's blame the rest of the world for a burgeoning birthrate that is unsustainable. In the animal kingdom, only the strong survive - we are no different.
The suffering and wickedness bestowed amongst the blacks can never be forgotten. And the wickedness caused by whites and blacks against these people can never be forgotten.
Which people, specifically?
Just do not try and brush it under the carpet, because until someone accepts responsibilty and apology how can Africa possibly progress ?
Why should we apologise for something that started thousands of years ago?
Just out of interest, do your books tell you when slavery started in Africa?
Believe me I am also aware and well versed on the wicked Black dictators in Africa and they to will one day have to stand before God and give an account for their wicked actions.
I doubt whether He cares
This is not just about black or white, evil and wickedness has no colour !!!!
This is about the only sensible thing you've said.
Jan 24th 2008 | 4:20 am
#111
Nuts and Bolts
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,116
From: Palm Tree in the Snow
Re: Is this offensive?
Ah, all this love one another stuff reminds me of the flower power times. So idealistic and full of fluffy happy cloud days.
They were smoking some pretty good stuff back then too...
They were smoking some pretty good stuff back then too...
Jan 24th 2008 | 4:23 am
#113
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,165
Re: Is this offensive?
The world has been full of drugs and alcohol just as long as man has existed, nothing new.
Jan 24th 2008 | 4:27 am
#114
Nuts and Bolts
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From: Palm Tree in the Snow
Re: Is this offensive?
Err, back to the drawing board. I think you have just pissed off God.
Jan 24th 2008 | 4:27 am
#115
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Re: Is this offensive?
As for being a democrat, do me a favour. Whatever else OUR LORD was, he wasn't a damned democrat.
Jan 24th 2008 | 4:31 am
#116
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Re: Is this offensive?
Jan 24th 2008 | 4:35 am
#118
Happily hungover
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From: Runcorn, via Africa and parts unknown.
Jan 24th 2008 | 4:38 am
#119
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Re: Is this offensive?
Because they don't agree on what is civilized, and on what "betterment" constitutes, and they will tell you they don't need some intefering neo-colonialist whitey Christian to tell them how to do it. If they want to loot the shop, who are you to tell them they can't? They will tell you to butt out and let them do things "the African way." And when it's all wrecked and everyone is impoverished, they will expect you to bail them out, because it's all your fault, you see.
Jan 24th 2008 | 4:39 am
#120
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Re: Is this offensive?
Consider this: perhaps if busy-bodies like you had not started sticking their oar in in Africa, things would be fine. YOU are the reason Africa is the hellhole is has become. You are the one with the blood on your hands. You are the one who should get on your knees and grovel for forgiveness. Armchair know-nothings sitting comfortably in the West and pontificating about what Africa needs and doesn't need.
Do not be alarmed or startled by the truth, beg for forgiveness and stop this arrogant gibberish. We live in a Brave New World. The Old Guard has gone.
Better days are to come for all. Embrace it, be part of it, or forever be bitter !!!
Long live better days to come !!!!
