Originally Posted by garytreez (Post 5853472)

Thanks for that pablo, I didnt realise that SA was in a situation comparable to the dictators etc that you mention......yet.

Originally Posted by garytreez (Post 5853362)

I am suprised that some South Africans are so negative.

Originally Posted by garytreez (Post 5850405)

think it would be safer in Iraq or Afganistan (i know them too)

Originally Posted by whalewatcher (Post 5993837)

And here we are, in the Mail & Guardian today, nogal:

SA murder rate 'same as Iraq terror deaths'

Originally Posted by garytreez (Post 5853472)

Thanks for that pablo, I didnt realise that SA was in a situation comparable to the dictators etc that you mention......yet.

I am taking SA as it is now, not wanting to give it up as so many have done and continue to do. i do not want to hold anyone back but are you telling me that all of SA is only negative. I guess it also depends on your political convictions etc but thats another story...............


Thanks again :thumbup:

Originally Posted by Redlippie (Post 5997111)

I'm Zimbabwean. Famous last words. Excuse me if I yawn when I read your posts.......Heard it ALL before...

Originally Posted by Stanley10 (Post 5996689)

Let's do a real comparison, I'll do two weeks in Cape Town, if you do two weeks in Baghdad. :thumbup:

Originally Posted by Daxk (Post 5850650)

Certainy Gary, you start.
Having lived there a lot longer and more recently (as opposed to a holiday every two years) let me agree with you regarding the Weather,stunning scenery etc. Let me also agree with the friendliness of most of the people and the fact that there is or will be a lot of potential for the country if they resolve the high crime rate, Eskom,Water, and Health problems.
Although I will agree that Secunda and Nelspruit may only be dangerous if you come across elephants in comparison to Gauteng and lately Natal.
Nelspruit happens to be on the route that a lot of illegal Mocambican refugees
take to Egoli, I'm thinking particularly of my Cousin at Marloth Park this last year and the uncomfortable night they spent tied up.But, Hey,she did'nt get raped,he did'nt get shot, whats to complain about.
I also assume that as an about to be ex military man, you, as I did, figure old age,cunning and in my case 13 years of fairly active duty is going to beat some little snot hands down.
Jose! he was soo cool, he stayed well out of reach and he kept his firing lines clear at all times, when they started dragging my wife towards the bushes (some anniversary dinner!!) three of them kept me in a triangle.Fortunately, they realised that time was few and stopped.
so Bud, go and try and recapture your lost youth ,it's a figment of your imagination. but dont try and tell me to NOT respond to press reports when I still have family in there who CANT get out.
Deal?
PS:Great Weather does'nt help if you cant go out much in it.

Originally Posted by garytreez (Post 5852786)

I guess its also alot to do with where you live.....thats why ill never go back to kempton park. I am prepared to take the leap. The universal language seems to be 9mm.

Thanks for the input, my toes are freezing, the kids have got colds again and its raining....................lovely !!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by garytreez (Post 5853362)

I think that someone going to cape town would have this thought, but ive never been there. i am going to Secunda. i go every year, sometimes for work and often stay with an SA friend who moved from the hysteria of joburg to Secunda 10 years ago.

We could start a uk negative thread based only on what goes on in parts of London, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds etc......but that wouldnt be accurate would it ?

I am suprised that some South Africans are so negative.