Anyone Regret Moving To USA
#62
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Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
Not ever. Leaving the UK in 1983 due to lack of jobs (similar situation to what is happening in the UK now) turned my life around in a way that would not have been possible if I had stayed in the UK.
The end result has not been anywhere near as successful financially as it might have been if I had stayed (because I didn't buy my first house until 1988, by which time prices had gone up, and have been similarly hit hard financially by my move back and selling up my US house in 1999, and again buying a UK house in March 2007).
So, I definitely regret some of the financial fallout that has resulted from being an expat (linked directly with the timing of my moves, i.e., during the dotcom boom and during the UK housing bubble), but the adventures I have had and the people I have met along the way have made it worthwhile.
The end result has not been anywhere near as successful financially as it might have been if I had stayed (because I didn't buy my first house until 1988, by which time prices had gone up, and have been similarly hit hard financially by my move back and selling up my US house in 1999, and again buying a UK house in March 2007).
So, I definitely regret some of the financial fallout that has resulted from being an expat (linked directly with the timing of my moves, i.e., during the dotcom boom and during the UK housing bubble), but the adventures I have had and the people I have met along the way have made it worthwhile.
I ended up in Miami, now Vancouver. I didnt like Miami or Florida for that matter. Always found the US to be a bit off centre and never seemed to quite fit. Don't regret it, but I find myself wondering these days what would have become of me had i stayed in the UK.
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Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
Well don't know how true that is, seeing as how the current president grew up in quite a poor household. The American dream is very much alive,in my mind,if you have intelligence and some luck !
#64
Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
He is incredibly smart and incredibly charismatic. Most people do not have his gifts and his success doesn't mean that the rest of the country isn't being systematically ripped off by rich and powerful corporations.
But making people believe in that dream is essential, so you're definitely not alone.
But making people believe in that dream is essential, so you're definitely not alone.
#65
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Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
Mostly very true. My father was born into an INCREDIBLY poor family (we are talking dirt floors here) and through scholarships to uni and hard work, he now has a 6 figure salary and a great house (and sent 3 kids to uni as well). My mother also grew up in a struggling household. Her father died when he was only 34, leaving my grandma to raise 4 kids on her own. Each child was able to go to university and get a degree, and they are now a lawyer, psychiatrist, business owner, and teacher. You cannot expect things to fall into your lap, but if you work hard and have an intelligent mind, the rewards are there.
#66
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Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
I can't say I regret leaving England when I did, but I sometimes wonder how I would have fared elsewhere... Perhaps Europe.
My story is that I was a pretty troubled teenager, and things looked very bleak for me in 1989 in England. I traveled in Europe and met an American. He was from Minnesota and I decided to go there and marry. It was more for the security, a feeling of belonging, a home that I wished for -- rather than marriage. I was 19.
I had a second chance: to go to a great college in Mpls. and get my degree. We were poor, so had a lot of help from partial grants. Also I remember thinking how much free and cheap stuff there was just lying around the streets! And thrift stores: wow. And a friend offered a big apartment for way less than it was worth. We were poor but lucky. We had just enough always.
By the time I graduated we were divorced. I had grown so much and wanted my independence -- wasn't the healthiest relationship. I was also determined to use my degree and get a good job. I didn't even think about health insurance back then. So, lucky again, nothing bad ever happened in that regard. Although paid a small fortune to have 2 wisdom teeth removed...
So America has given me a lot really over the years since then. I wonder about my personal growth had I lived in the UK. In the US I discovered therapy. I discovered feelings. And ... well... not to get too gushy here (we are Brits after all!) ... self love. It's taken a while. Growing up in England I barely received a compliment. I believed I was ugly and stupid. That's just what I was around.
Now I'm in California and by common standards have done pretty well for myself. It wasn't a steady course to get here but I have a nice place, friends, interests, decent weather! For the most part, I have confidence and hopefulness.
Yet I do wonder about the sense of community and English life. Would it be different for me now as a "grown up"? I often feel people are "scheduling" me in here. People are so busy, needing to feel productive and active constantly. Not all, but a general feeling. As others have said, a mixed bag. Overall though I'm incredibly grateful about my path here despite some things about America that make me angry (lack of affordable health care, homelessness situation in San Francisco, right wing religious politics, state education system).
But actually when I wrote the gist of it out here, a pretty amazing life. So, je ne regrette rien
My story is that I was a pretty troubled teenager, and things looked very bleak for me in 1989 in England. I traveled in Europe and met an American. He was from Minnesota and I decided to go there and marry. It was more for the security, a feeling of belonging, a home that I wished for -- rather than marriage. I was 19.
I had a second chance: to go to a great college in Mpls. and get my degree. We were poor, so had a lot of help from partial grants. Also I remember thinking how much free and cheap stuff there was just lying around the streets! And thrift stores: wow. And a friend offered a big apartment for way less than it was worth. We were poor but lucky. We had just enough always.
By the time I graduated we were divorced. I had grown so much and wanted my independence -- wasn't the healthiest relationship. I was also determined to use my degree and get a good job. I didn't even think about health insurance back then. So, lucky again, nothing bad ever happened in that regard. Although paid a small fortune to have 2 wisdom teeth removed...
So America has given me a lot really over the years since then. I wonder about my personal growth had I lived in the UK. In the US I discovered therapy. I discovered feelings. And ... well... not to get too gushy here (we are Brits after all!) ... self love. It's taken a while. Growing up in England I barely received a compliment. I believed I was ugly and stupid. That's just what I was around.
Now I'm in California and by common standards have done pretty well for myself. It wasn't a steady course to get here but I have a nice place, friends, interests, decent weather! For the most part, I have confidence and hopefulness.
Yet I do wonder about the sense of community and English life. Would it be different for me now as a "grown up"? I often feel people are "scheduling" me in here. People are so busy, needing to feel productive and active constantly. Not all, but a general feeling. As others have said, a mixed bag. Overall though I'm incredibly grateful about my path here despite some things about America that make me angry (lack of affordable health care, homelessness situation in San Francisco, right wing religious politics, state education system).
But actually when I wrote the gist of it out here, a pretty amazing life. So, je ne regrette rien
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Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
I can't say I regret leaving England when I did, but I sometimes wonder how I would have fared elsewhere... Perhaps Europe.
My story is that I was a pretty troubled teenager, and things looked very bleak for me in 1989 in England. I traveled in Europe and met an American. He was from Minnesota and I decided to go there and marry. It was more for the security, a feeling of belonging, a home that I wished for -- rather than marriage. I was 19.
I had a second chance: to go to a great college in Mpls. and get my degree. We were poor, so had a lot of help from partial grants. Also I remember thinking how much free and cheap stuff there was just lying around the streets! And thrift stores: wow. And a friend offered a big apartment for way less than it was worth. We were poor but lucky. We had just enough always.
By the time I graduated we were divorced. I had grown so much and wanted my independence -- wasn't the healthiest relationship. I was also determined to use my degree and get a good job. I didn't even think about health insurance back then. So, lucky again, nothing bad ever happened in that regard. Although paid a small fortune to have 2 wisdom teeth removed...
So America has given me a lot really over the years since then. I wonder about my personal growth had I lived in the UK. In the US I discovered therapy. I discovered feelings. And ... well... not to get too gushy here (we are Brits after all!) ... self love. It's taken a while. Growing up in England I barely received a compliment. I believed I was ugly and stupid. That's just what I was around.
Now I'm in California and by common standards have done pretty well for myself. It wasn't a steady course to get here but I have a nice place, friends, interests, decent weather! For the most part, I have confidence and hopefulness.
Yet I do wonder about the sense of community and English life. Would it be different for me now as a "grown up"? I often feel people are "scheduling" me in here. People are so busy, needing to feel productive and active constantly. Not all, but a general feeling. As others have said, a mixed bag. Overall though I'm incredibly grateful about my path here despite some things about America that make me angry (lack of affordable health care, homelessness situation in San Francisco, right wing religious politics, state education system).
But actually when I wrote the gist of it out here, a pretty amazing life. So, je ne regrette rien
My story is that I was a pretty troubled teenager, and things looked very bleak for me in 1989 in England. I traveled in Europe and met an American. He was from Minnesota and I decided to go there and marry. It was more for the security, a feeling of belonging, a home that I wished for -- rather than marriage. I was 19.
I had a second chance: to go to a great college in Mpls. and get my degree. We were poor, so had a lot of help from partial grants. Also I remember thinking how much free and cheap stuff there was just lying around the streets! And thrift stores: wow. And a friend offered a big apartment for way less than it was worth. We were poor but lucky. We had just enough always.
By the time I graduated we were divorced. I had grown so much and wanted my independence -- wasn't the healthiest relationship. I was also determined to use my degree and get a good job. I didn't even think about health insurance back then. So, lucky again, nothing bad ever happened in that regard. Although paid a small fortune to have 2 wisdom teeth removed...
So America has given me a lot really over the years since then. I wonder about my personal growth had I lived in the UK. In the US I discovered therapy. I discovered feelings. And ... well... not to get too gushy here (we are Brits after all!) ... self love. It's taken a while. Growing up in England I barely received a compliment. I believed I was ugly and stupid. That's just what I was around.
Now I'm in California and by common standards have done pretty well for myself. It wasn't a steady course to get here but I have a nice place, friends, interests, decent weather! For the most part, I have confidence and hopefulness.
Yet I do wonder about the sense of community and English life. Would it be different for me now as a "grown up"? I often feel people are "scheduling" me in here. People are so busy, needing to feel productive and active constantly. Not all, but a general feeling. As others have said, a mixed bag. Overall though I'm incredibly grateful about my path here despite some things about America that make me angry (lack of affordable health care, homelessness situation in San Francisco, right wing religious politics, state education system).
But actually when I wrote the gist of it out here, a pretty amazing life. So, je ne regrette rien
#68
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Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
Only regret is that I didn't get to stay long enough!!
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No joke at all. I have experienced extreme racism against me here. I really have. Main reason i got out of the US Army. I live in a small German town in the middle of Minnesota. They do not like " outsiders ".
one comment made to my father in laws friend from a co worker was this " You think he is normal till you hear his accent ".
Ie : Cause I am white I look like a typical American till I speak.
I have had a horrid time in this country. I can not wait to get back to Belfast
one comment made to my father in laws friend from a co worker was this " You think he is normal till you hear his accent ".
Ie : Cause I am white I look like a typical American till I speak.
I have had a horrid time in this country. I can not wait to get back to Belfast
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Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
Regret moving to the USA? You bet - with bells on!
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Where's Rosie - video of Frome in the news today!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...=ILCNETTXT3486
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...=ILCNETTXT3486
I didn't recognise any people but I did remember all of the streets and was shocked at the amount of boarded up shops since I was last there in March 2010.
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Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
I accidentally posted it in the wrong place. I thought it would be of interest to you and Rosie.
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Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
Unfortunately the KEEP TESCOs OUT war is being fought and lost the length and breadth of England & Wales. Nobody can beat their influence, particularly on the members of the local council. Apart from that though, as the article states, there are many locals who do actually want the convenience of having all of their buying needs under one roof and really don't see the damage that a Tesco can wreak in terms of destruction of the existing retail infrastructure.
That said,
In Whitstable there's a Tesco's megastore and free bus access from within Whitstable itself but the existing fishmongers, butchers (5) and greengrocers are still keeping their heads above water. A new fishmonger has recently opened and it has a farmer's market. But then that's Whitstable which has its own special cult following from well-to-do folks down from London like Janet Street-Porter.
That said,
In Whitstable there's a Tesco's megastore and free bus access from within Whitstable itself but the existing fishmongers, butchers (5) and greengrocers are still keeping their heads above water. A new fishmonger has recently opened and it has a farmer's market. But then that's Whitstable which has its own special cult following from well-to-do folks down from London like Janet Street-Porter.
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Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
Unfortunately the KEEP TESCOs OUT war is being fought and lost the length and breadth of England & Wales. Nobody can beat their influence, particularly on the members of the local council. Apart from that though, as the article states, there are many locals who do actually want the convenience of having all of their buying needs under one roof and really don't see the damage that a Tesco can wreak in terms of destruction of the existing retail infrastructure.
That said,
In Whitstable there's a Tesco's megastore and free bus access from within Whitstable itself but the existing fishmongers, butchers (5) and greengrocers are still keeping their heads above water. A new fishmonger has recently opened and it has a farmer's market. But then that's Whitstable which has its own special cult following from well-to-do folks down from London like Janet Street-Porter.
That said,
In Whitstable there's a Tesco's megastore and free bus access from within Whitstable itself but the existing fishmongers, butchers (5) and greengrocers are still keeping their heads above water. A new fishmonger has recently opened and it has a farmer's market. But then that's Whitstable which has its own special cult following from well-to-do folks down from London like Janet Street-Porter.
#75
Re: Anyone Regret Moving To USA
I don't regret moving to the US, I spent 3 years there, as it has made me much more appreciative of Britain...I moved back home 3 weeks ago and I'm so happy to be back