[AmerLisa]

Originally Posted by britvic Has there been a rule change

For what?

[Tootsie Frickensprinkles]

Originally Posted by AmerLisa I will point out - as I'm going to do in another thread....that if you only look at the negatives, you'll never see the positives. I'm going to say that nothing is perfect, not here, not there, not 20 miles down the road.....its what you make it to be. Read Sugarmomma's thread.....very enlightening on what hard work and positive outlooks can do for a life.

Quite right, of anything, but what's that got to do with this thread?

[britvic]

Originally Posted by surly I don't need to read the Independent to tell me or some toffy nosed **** from Putney to tell me.

Blimey that's a bit un called for ain't it

[AmerLisa]

Originally Posted by Tootsie Frickensprinkles Quite right, of anything, but what's that got to do with this thread?

Doom and gloom. It can be said for any country. My goodness if you always worried about the toilet overflowing, how could you leave the bathroom?

And before anyone quotes my post and adds an ostrich.....we all have to live in this world. Its not perfect by any means. If you find the perfect haven, let me know.

[britvic]

Originally Posted by AmerLisa For what?

You had your little dig.

[AmerLisa]

Originally Posted by britvic You had your little dig.

I said what I wanted to say....didn't everyone? I don't think I called anyone anything rude. To me its just the same ole same ole......

[Tootsie Frickensprinkles]

Originally Posted by AmerLisa Doom and gloom. It can be said for any country. My goodness if you always worried about the toilet overflowing, how could you leave the bathroom?

Yes, all countries have their issues .. this is one of America's. I'm not sure why being concerned about it is a problem? Or are you suggesting we all bury our heads in the sand?

[AmerLisa]

Originally Posted by Tootsie Frickensprinkles Yes, all countries have their issues .. this is one of America's. I'm not sure why being concerned about it is a problem?

Its not a problem for me. However, if all you do is worry about the sky falling, isn't that a bit of a problem? Worry is one thing, but what are you doing about it?

[Mallory]

Some people like to start flame wars on forums. They find some link that they know will set people off, and then they sit back and enjoy the outcome. This goes on all the time with a certain person, apparently when she gets bored. I would suggest that the OP go and help out in a free clinic.

[fatbrit]

Originally Posted by AmerLisa Its not a problem for me. However, if all you do is worry about the sky falling, isn't that a bit of a problem? Worry is one thing, but what are you doing about it?

The problem is that the sky is indeed falling in on America. And this thread touches on some of the reasons it is. And yet we have voters like sunflower-whatever from Kentucky who don't seem to think there's a serious problem. That's reason enough to make it obvious that there is.

[RoadWarriorFromLP]

Here's a recent 60 Minutes segment about a Brit who is doing some good. It's just a shame that he has to do this at all, it's frankly a bit embarrassing that this sort of thing is even necessary:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3889496.shtml

The BBC has also covered his work:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7420744.stm

[fatbrit]

Originally Posted by Mallory Some people like to start flame wars on forums. They find some link that they know will set people off, and then they sit back and enjoy the outcome. This goes on all the time with a certain person, apparently when she gets bored. I would suggest that the OP go and help out in a free clinic.

Argumentum ad hominem -- again!

[AmerLisa]

Originally Posted by fatbrit The problem is that the sky is indeed falling in on America. And this thread touches on some of the reasons it is. And yet we have voters like sunflower-whatever from Kentucky who don't seem to think there's a serious problem. That's reason enough to make it obvious that there is.

Of course there are serious problems. I'm very aware of the high cost of everything. The biggest shock of my life was moving back to this country. And while voting in the right government might help things, its the mentality that has to change as well.

[Rete]

Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP The middle class s*its on the poor, even though most of them are two or three paychecks away from joining them. They want to feel rich because they have nice car leases and massive adjustable rate mortgages, when most of them are really serfs who are up to their eyeballs in debt, living lifestyles that are supportable only through excessive debt.

Don't agree with the take of the middle class crapping on the poor. The middle class does't have enough energy or wherewithal to do that. Everything the middle class has been taken from them by the governments, federal, state, city and county, and given away to a politican's causes, perks, and special interests. Anything left over goes to the poor. No wonder the middle class lives from paycheck to paycheck.

[fatbrit]

Originally Posted by AmerLisa Of course there are serious problems. I'm very aware of the high cost of everything. The biggest shock of my life was moving back to this country. And while voting in the right government might help things, its the mentality that has to change as well.

The ones that haven't fallen off the narrowing ledge yet don't seem to believe there's a problem -- as can be clearly seen in this thread. How would you suggest we enlighten them?