The good old NHS.
Jan 30th 2013, 9:25 am
#122
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Re: The good old NHS.
You're right. We should have a society with 0 individual responsibility for outcomes in life.
Btw, my comment is factual and supported by evidence. Sorry that it does not fit your preconceived notions.
As to why people support stuff, everyone supports something for nothing, everyone will support 'free' stuff. Does not mean this is right and does not mean this can be sustained forever. Societies declined throughout the history because of values adopted by majority. See how far this free stuff will get you. Maybe food should be free at point of consumption and rationed by the government. Food is as important to national health as healthcare. Then exercise. Everyone must exercise in the morning, the government should organise public exercise in each neighborhood. And can give everyone uniforms while we are at it. Ein-zwei-drei.
Btw, my comment is factual and supported by evidence. Sorry that it does not fit your preconceived notions.
As to why people support stuff, everyone supports something for nothing, everyone will support 'free' stuff. Does not mean this is right and does not mean this can be sustained forever. Societies declined throughout the history because of values adopted by majority. See how far this free stuff will get you. Maybe food should be free at point of consumption and rationed by the government. Food is as important to national health as healthcare. Then exercise. Everyone must exercise in the morning, the government should organise public exercise in each neighborhood. And can give everyone uniforms while we are at it. Ein-zwei-drei.
(I guess even now he still doesn't realise....)
Jan 30th 2013, 9:47 am
#125
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Re: The good old NHS.
Godwin's law now applies, so we are done here.
Jan 30th 2013, 2:59 pm
#130
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Re: The good old NHS.
I feel protected from such measures, some states have minimum requirements, one example being the inclusion of mental health provisions. In a complex and expensive purchase like health care it is very difficult for a layman to compare. It would be easy for an employer to claim that they are providing care and for it to be discovered that they provide minimal care, and then you can not get insured because it is now a prior.
I do not want my state to allow the sale of the dodgy insurance that other states peddle as cover. Cheap is often crap.
Buyer beware is a nonsense in an area of high ignorance for the buyer.
Jan 30th 2013, 4:09 pm
#131
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Re: The good old NHS.
It's not fitting any of my notions, or my reality. But then I'm only a dual UK/US citizen who's lived in the USA for the past dozen or so years. IMO, you're talking out of your backside.
Jan 30th 2013, 9:50 pm
#132
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Re: The good old NHS.
There are lots of things that need to be done before that should even be considered.
I feel protected from such measures, some states have minimum requirements, one example being the inclusion of mental health provisions. In a complex and expensive purchase like health care it is very difficult for a layman to compare. It would be easy for an employer to claim that they are providing care and for it to be discovered that they provide minimal care, and then you can not get insured because it is now a prior.
I do not want my state to allow the sale of the dodgy insurance that other states peddle as cover. Cheap is often crap.
Buyer beware is a nonsense in an area of high ignorance for the buyer.
I feel protected from such measures, some states have minimum requirements, one example being the inclusion of mental health provisions. In a complex and expensive purchase like health care it is very difficult for a layman to compare. It would be easy for an employer to claim that they are providing care and for it to be discovered that they provide minimal care, and then you can not get insured because it is now a prior.
I do not want my state to allow the sale of the dodgy insurance that other states peddle as cover. Cheap is often crap.
Buyer beware is a nonsense in an area of high ignorance for the buyer.
See guys, people are happy that healthcare is reassuringly expensive! What the hell you're on about.
Not only that, but Joe Soaps can't be trusted with complex purchases so best if the state looks after the flock. I would offer that buying a house is also a complex purchase simple folks can't be trusted with so best if the state handles this affair for them too. Taking into account that we are suffering from overuse of energy resulting in global warming, instant savings can be achieved in this respect if the flock is housed by the state in some facilities which have common cooking areas, bathrooms and bedrooms. Treblinka could serve as a template.
Jan 30th 2013, 9:53 pm
#133
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Re: The good old NHS.
But it's great that you have hands on experience. That is really the only way to know and understand issues. Screw the Internet information era, if you can't touch it or slap it's bottom, it ain't there.
Jan 30th 2013, 9:56 pm
#134
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Re: The good old NHS.
I googled it, it's some obscure song, why the hell should I know about it? Don't flatter your choice of nick name, most people would have no clue. Tis is for an unadjusted minority with odd taste in music.
Jan 30th 2013, 10:05 pm
#135
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Re: The good old NHS.
See guys, people are happy that healthcare is reassuringly expensive! What the hell you're on about.
Not only that, but Joe Soaps can't be trusted with complex purchases so best if the state looks after the flock. I would offer that buying a house is also a complex purchase simple folks can't be trusted with so best if the state handles this affair for them too. Taking into account that we are suffering from overuse of energy resulting in global warming, instant savings can be achieved in this respect if the flock is housed by the state in some facilities which have common cooking areas, bathrooms and bedrooms. Treblinka could serve as a template.
Not only that, but Joe Soaps can't be trusted with complex purchases so best if the state looks after the flock. I would offer that buying a house is also a complex purchase simple folks can't be trusted with so best if the state handles this affair for them too. Taking into account that we are suffering from overuse of energy resulting in global warming, instant savings can be achieved in this respect if the flock is housed by the state in some facilities which have common cooking areas, bathrooms and bedrooms. Treblinka could serve as a template.
Choice is good.