Winter 2017-18
#106
Re: Winter 2017-18
But is IS chaos.
People's lives are micro-managed these days, whether it's dropping the kids off, getting to work, making a connection... anything that throws that finely balanced system off results in huge amounts of frustration.
Unfortunately most people aren't in a lucky enough situation to say, "Hey, it's snowing, let's just take the day off and enjoy it!". The AA and the RAC can preach all they like, but most folk can't afford not to travel.
People's lives are micro-managed these days, whether it's dropping the kids off, getting to work, making a connection... anything that throws that finely balanced system off results in huge amounts of frustration.
Unfortunately most people aren't in a lucky enough situation to say, "Hey, it's snowing, let's just take the day off and enjoy it!". The AA and the RAC can preach all they like, but most folk can't afford not to travel.
#107
Re: Winter 2017-18
That's the same here. The weather gets bad, they pull the ploughs and then nominally close the roads and the public just has to get on with it. The difference, I suppose, is that here it happens every year so people drive vehicles equipped for the weather.
#108
Re: Winter 2017-18
That reminds me of something on the radio here a few years ago.
The presenter reported white-out/freezing rain or whatever apocalyptic conditions existed that made going out crazy - "essential journeys only" sort of thing - and then the very next thing they announced (all clearly live, none recorded and the same presenter) was promoting one of the stores encouraging people to go there today.
The presenter reported white-out/freezing rain or whatever apocalyptic conditions existed that made going out crazy - "essential journeys only" sort of thing - and then the very next thing they announced (all clearly live, none recorded and the same presenter) was promoting one of the stores encouraging people to go there today.
#109
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Joined: Jan 2006
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Re: Winter 2017-18
Yep. Using snow as an excuse at my job won't cut it. If the airport is open we are expected to arrive for work.
The govt at various levels will say not to travel on the roads when it snows here but that just isn't realistic to expect.
The govt at various levels will say not to travel on the roads when it snows here but that just isn't realistic to expect.
But is IS chaos.
People's lives are micro-managed these days, whether it's dropping the kids off, getting to work, making a connection... anything that throws that finely balanced system off results in huge amounts of frustration.
Unfortunately most people aren't in a lucky enough situation to say, "Hey, it's snowing, let's just take the day off and enjoy it!". The AA and the RAC can preach all they like, but most folk can't afford not to travel.
People's lives are micro-managed these days, whether it's dropping the kids off, getting to work, making a connection... anything that throws that finely balanced system off results in huge amounts of frustration.
Unfortunately most people aren't in a lucky enough situation to say, "Hey, it's snowing, let's just take the day off and enjoy it!". The AA and the RAC can preach all they like, but most folk can't afford not to travel.
#110
Re: Winter 2017-18
If an airport is open - operational, I mean, in terms of flights arriving and taking off - then things must be okay.
But when people are in weather related accidents when they've been warned to stay home I'd be in favour of fines set at an amount that covers the cost of all the services involved in dealing with it and subsequent fines for any employer sacking them for non attendance - as difficult as that may be to enforce.
#111
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Joined: Feb 2013
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Re: Winter 2017-18
Why not? Granted it depends on the reason for travel and what the state of the roads really is (it is Vancouver after all )
If an airport is open - operational, I mean, in terms of flights arriving and taking off - then things must be okay.
But when people are in weather related accidents when they've been warned to stay home I'd be in favour of fines set at an amount that covers the cost of all the services involved in dealing with it and subsequent fines for any employer sacking them for non attendance - as difficult as that may be to enforce.
If an airport is open - operational, I mean, in terms of flights arriving and taking off - then things must be okay.
But when people are in weather related accidents when they've been warned to stay home I'd be in favour of fines set at an amount that covers the cost of all the services involved in dealing with it and subsequent fines for any employer sacking them for non attendance - as difficult as that may be to enforce.
Good idea but then you'd have plenty of companies leaving Canada. If it snows half the year (OK not Vancouver but other parts of Canada), you'll be flooded with weather related accidents and people trying to claim, or nobody will work
Last edited by Moses2013; Dec 11th 2017 at 3:49 pm.
#113
Re: Winter 2017-18
But of course I'm referring to planes arriving and departing because there are passengers arriving at and departing from the airport because the roads are safe.
#114
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Re: Winter 2017-18
Sure but that's very hard to define and what's safe or unsafe will depend on the person and where they live. It's often a lot worse off the main roads but people in the city might not see that. If I feel unsafe to drive, I stay at home and no boss can stop me.
#116
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Re: Winter 2017-18
One thing is certain and that is an airport can be open and operational and the roads outside a total mess.
Several times last winter when Vancouver saw a decent amount of snow the airport was open and operating but the city roads were a total mess and transit buses a couple times stopped running.
Several times last winter when Vancouver saw a decent amount of snow the airport was open and operating but the city roads were a total mess and transit buses a couple times stopped running.
Why not? Granted it depends on the reason for travel and what the state of the roads really is (it is Vancouver after all )
If an airport is open - operational, I mean, in terms of flights arriving and taking off - then things must be okay.
But when people are in weather related accidents when they've been warned to stay home I'd be in favour of fines set at an amount that covers the cost of all the services involved in dealing with it and subsequent fines for any employer sacking them for non attendance - as difficult as that may be to enforce.
If an airport is open - operational, I mean, in terms of flights arriving and taking off - then things must be okay.
But when people are in weather related accidents when they've been warned to stay home I'd be in favour of fines set at an amount that covers the cost of all the services involved in dealing with it and subsequent fines for any employer sacking them for non attendance - as difficult as that may be to enforce.
#117
Re: Winter 2017-18
Yes, that's the part that would make sense if airplanes travelled on the roads. Air travel can be restricted when roads are open, and roads can be closed or under travel advisory while flights are still landing and taking off on schedule. Unless the highway is closed, period, Jsmith is going to work because the airport doesn't want to delay flights because the baggage handlers wanted to take a snow day.
#118
Re: Winter 2017-18
Tell you what...snow in the UK looks nicer than snow here, judging by photos in the paper.
#119
limey party pooper
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 9,982
Re: Winter 2017-18
I always fancied one of those jobs where you get to stay homeif the weather is bad. Even after the 87 hurricane I got in to work. Took me 4 hours but I got there.
Now i can enjoy being retired and not have to battle the weather to get to work and certainly don't miss sleeping on a stretcher when it was too nasty to drive home at midnight and I was on call.
Now i can enjoy being retired and not have to battle the weather to get to work and certainly don't miss sleeping on a stretcher when it was too nasty to drive home at midnight and I was on call.
#120
Re: Winter 2017-18
I still like to keep a sort of discipline in getting up fairly early. Stepdaughter has had loads of early starts lately meaning leaving for the bus at 7.15 so I'm up making sure she's up and having her brekky ready when she gets downstairs.