Random stuff - the anything else thread
#121
#122
Slob
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Ottineau
Posts: 6,342
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
I rest my case
Yes, I would absolutely agree about "bird"- the context used here is describing a very specific group of people who live in Brighton. It is the kind of language that would be used by my dad having watched "Are you being served?". But there again, similar generation..
Derogatory in this context?- Yes of course it was.
Yes, I would absolutely agree about "bird"- the context used here is describing a very specific group of people who live in Brighton. It is the kind of language that would be used by my dad having watched "Are you being served?". But there again, similar generation..
Derogatory in this context?- Yes of course it was.
#123
#124
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
I am finding you funny too often for you to get more karma so
Ok I'll bite. That's rubbish. I admit I was surprised by the use of this term. I thought only my Dad still said stuff like that. I hadn't read far enough back in the thread to catch the wings theme, and the sexism of 'bird' but still... Also on a public forum you have no idea who is on the 'receiving end'. Are you seriously saying no words are offensive unless used directly in a name-calling situation?
#125
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
At the receiving end? I'm not sure what you mean. You are addressing a public forum... You have made your opinion clear but do you not think other people on the forum might be slightly more enlightened than the pair of you and might actually be offended by the comment? I chose to say no more once Novacastrian had replied with yet another inappropriate comment in a thread which had clearly for the time being drifted in a more serious direction but then you chose to continue it. Perhaps not surprising given that you have trivialised the comments.
Feel free to keep digging though, that hole is getting deeper.
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#126
Slob
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Ottineau
Posts: 6,342
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
I am finding you funny too often for you to get more karma so
Ok I'll bite. That's rubbish. I admit I was surprised by the use of this term. I thought only my Dad still said stuff like that. I hadn't read far enough back in the thread to catch the wings theme, and the sexism of 'bird' but still... Also on a public forum you have no idea who is on the 'receiving end'. Are you seriously saying no words are offensive unless used directly in a name-calling situation?
Ok I'll bite. That's rubbish. I admit I was surprised by the use of this term. I thought only my Dad still said stuff like that. I hadn't read far enough back in the thread to catch the wings theme, and the sexism of 'bird' but still... Also on a public forum you have no idea who is on the 'receiving end'. Are you seriously saying no words are offensive unless used directly in a name-calling situation?
#127
limey party pooper
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 9,982
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
I think Stinky is right and wasn't being over sensitive. Using terms like fairy in a public conversation is wrong, you have to know your audience and that's impossible on a public forum.
#128
#129
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
"At the receiving end? I'm not sure what you mean. You are addressing a public forum... You have made your opinion clear but do you not think other people on the forum might be slightly more enlightened than the pair of you and might actually be offended by the comment?
I think suggesting posters are unenlightened is going too far, people banter using terms that fit the flow of the theme, not necessarily the terms they would use on a job posting. As well, this is a forum which might reasonably be thought to be read primarily by Brits and so one would expect more freedom of expression here than one would in a public place in Canada. "Fairy" is not the worst description of a person I expect to see today.
#130
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
"The rule of Souvy" might be acceptable in your little world but I don't think that would be wise to apply on a public forum. Using this rule one could for example be racist but that is ok because it was a general comment and not pointed at anyone specifically who could find your comment offensive.
At the receiving end? I'm not sure what you mean. You are addressing a public forum... You have made your opinion clear but do you not think other people on the forum might be slightly more enlightened than the pair of you and might actually be offended by the comment? I chose to say no more once Novacastrian had replied with yet another inappropriate comment in a thread which had clearly for the time being drifted in a more serious direction but then you chose to continue it. Perhaps not surprising given that you have trivialised the comments.
Feel free to keep digging though, that hole is getting deeper.
At the receiving end? I'm not sure what you mean. You are addressing a public forum... You have made your opinion clear but do you not think other people on the forum might be slightly more enlightened than the pair of you and might actually be offended by the comment? I chose to say no more once Novacastrian had replied with yet another inappropriate comment in a thread which had clearly for the time being drifted in a more serious direction but then you chose to continue it. Perhaps not surprising given that you have trivialised the comments.
Feel free to keep digging though, that hole is getting deeper.
"receiving end" is a phrase that might bear rethinking in this context.
I think suggesting posters are unenlightened is going too far, people banter using terms that fit the flow of the theme, not necessarily the terms they would use on a job posting. As well, this is a forum which might reasonably be thought to be read primarily by Brits and so one would expect more freedom of expression here than one would in a public place in Canada. "Fairy" is not the worst description of a person I expect to see today.
I think suggesting posters are unenlightened is going too far, people banter using terms that fit the flow of the theme, not necessarily the terms they would use on a job posting. As well, this is a forum which might reasonably be thought to be read primarily by Brits and so one would expect more freedom of expression here than one would in a public place in Canada. "Fairy" is not the worst description of a person I expect to see today.
#131
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
Assuming (dangerous as I don't know you) that you don't belong to either of those groups, are you seriously suggesting that attempts to reclaim those words make it acceptable for you to use them? As bats has pointed out, clearly you don't. You surely cannot justify the use of derogatory terms by suggesting others might not find them offensive?
#132
#133
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
"receiving end" is a phrase that might bear rethinking in this context.
I think suggesting posters are unenlightened is going too far, people banter using terms that fit the flow of the theme, not necessarily the terms they would use on a job posting. As well, this is a forum which might reasonably be thought to be read primarily by Brits and so one would expect more freedom of expression here than one would in a public place in Canada. "Fairy" is not the worst description of a person I expect to see today.
I think suggesting posters are unenlightened is going too far, people banter using terms that fit the flow of the theme, not necessarily the terms they would use on a job posting. As well, this is a forum which might reasonably be thought to be read primarily by Brits and so one would expect more freedom of expression here than one would in a public place in Canada. "Fairy" is not the worst description of a person I expect to see today.
Should banter be banned? - BBC News
#134
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
The 'banter' justification has become a bit of a laughable cliche.
Should banter be banned? - BBC News
Should banter be banned? - BBC News
#135
Re: Random stuff - the anything else thread
The banter itself aimed at being laughable cliché. No one uses "fairy" to describe a gay man in earnest; the archaic nature of the expression serves to make the usage camp rather than prejudiced. "Bird" is less defensible but I think the objection to this instance of "fairy" is po-faced and an instance of taking offense on behalf of others who may, or may not, be bothered. We should fetch a gaymo for comment.
It would be great if these things could truly be described as archaic. When my oldest was in primary school I heard one of the mothers call the very suntanned son of her friend a 'darkie'. You would have thought that had died a rightful death in the seventies, but was still being used, with no shame, in this millennium. Sadly some things take longer to die than you would think.