The Sensible Australian Election Thread
#811
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Well whatever has happened and as crap a govt as Labor has been for the last 3 years, the last few weeks have confirmed exactly what I always thought; that a coalition govt would have been much worse. How the Coalition supporters on this site can still be spurting out the same liberal propaganda is beyond me.
Sure, you can accuse Labor of not being completely up front with the people regarding their pre-election agreement with the Greens, but that is nothing compared to how the LNP has completely conned the Australian people during their campaign. Regardless of how much out their election promises were in the costings, the fact remains that they deliberately set out to conceal these figures from Treasury so that the people wouldn't see their incompetence before polling day. You would think they would stop there, but then Wilkie comes out saying that Hobart Hospital was offered $1 billion for upgrades no questions asked. Yet the Liberals were the ones trying to pin "irresponsible spending" on Labor during the election.
Liberal voters, you have been punked!
Sure, you can accuse Labor of not being completely up front with the people regarding their pre-election agreement with the Greens, but that is nothing compared to how the LNP has completely conned the Australian people during their campaign. Regardless of how much out their election promises were in the costings, the fact remains that they deliberately set out to conceal these figures from Treasury so that the people wouldn't see their incompetence before polling day. You would think they would stop there, but then Wilkie comes out saying that Hobart Hospital was offered $1 billion for upgrades no questions asked. Yet the Liberals were the ones trying to pin "irresponsible spending" on Labor during the election.
Liberal voters, you have been punked!
#813
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Well whatever has happened and as crap a govt as Labor has been for the last 3 years, the last few weeks have confirmed exactly what I always thought; that a coalition govt would have been much worse. How the Coalition supporters on this site can still be spurting out the same liberal propaganda is beyond me.
Sure, you can accuse Labor of not being completely up front with the people regarding their pre-election agreement with the Greens, but that is nothing compared to how the LNP has completely conned the Australian people during their campaign. Regardless of how much out their election promises were in the costings, the fact remains that they deliberately set out to conceal these figures from Treasury so that the people wouldn't see their incompetence before polling day. You would think they would stop there, but then Wilkie comes out saying that Hobart Hospital was offered $1 billion for upgrades no questions asked. Yet the Liberals were the ones trying to pin "irresponsible spending" on Labor during the election.
Liberal voters, you have been punked!
Sure, you can accuse Labor of not being completely up front with the people regarding their pre-election agreement with the Greens, but that is nothing compared to how the LNP has completely conned the Australian people during their campaign. Regardless of how much out their election promises were in the costings, the fact remains that they deliberately set out to conceal these figures from Treasury so that the people wouldn't see their incompetence before polling day. You would think they would stop there, but then Wilkie comes out saying that Hobart Hospital was offered $1 billion for upgrades no questions asked. Yet the Liberals were the ones trying to pin "irresponsible spending" on Labor during the election.
Liberal voters, you have been punked!
Plus if Labor used the same accounting trick with regards to the contingency fund reduction as the coalition then even on Abbotts figures the Labor surplus is greater than the coalitions, The accounting trick adds $2.5bn dollars of imaginary savings.
If Abbott does form government it will be a day that the coalition will live to regret, he will trash any reputation they had for economic management.
#814
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The whole fiasco is..... embarrassing. Just embarrassing.
#815
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It's interesting that dyed in blue like to call the independents, "nutters"; but the hospital funding thing has completely turned that around.
Wilkie's move is also good in that it reduces the influence of the other 3 independents. Only 2 are required by Labour so their "power" to demand is now limited somewhat. On the other hand there's no limit to what Tony will offer them.
I'm with BS. Regardless of what's gone before, I reckon Tony will screw things up worse than Julia.
Wilkie's move is also good in that it reduces the influence of the other 3 independents. Only 2 are required by Labour so their "power" to demand is now limited somewhat. On the other hand there's no limit to what Tony will offer them.
I'm with BS. Regardless of what's gone before, I reckon Tony will screw things up worse than Julia.
#817
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Plus if Labor used the same accounting trick with regards to the contingency fund reduction as the coalition then even on Abbotts figures the Labor surplus is greater than the coalitions, The accounting trick adds $2.5bn dollars of imaginary savings.
If Abbott does form government it will be a day that the coalition will live to regret, he will trash any reputation they had for economic management.
If Abbott does form government it will be a day that the coalition will live to regret, he will trash any reputation they had for economic management.
Thanks for the entertainment you have provided us Mr Abbott, your deception very nearly paid off. I still reckon more people would have voted for a Lib govt with Turnbull at the healm.
#818
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I can see Katter staying with the Libs (not Nats), but Oakeshott and Windsor will back Labor
#820
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1225913623637
Mr Katter said he was a good friend of John Howard's, but he attacked the Coalition's record of infrastructure investment during the Howard years and paid credit to former prime minister Kevin Rudd and Infrastructure Minister Anthony Albanese for their programs.
“In 12 years they never built a single line of infrastructure of anything, these people have actually done it,” he said.
“On the contrary the first item (on the list) is the national energy grid and if there has been one great achievement by this government, actually two great achievements, it's the broadband and the national energy grid.”
“In 12 years they never built a single line of infrastructure of anything, these people have actually done it,” he said.
“On the contrary the first item (on the list) is the national energy grid and if there has been one great achievement by this government, actually two great achievements, it's the broadband and the national energy grid.”
#821
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What's dysfunctional about it? It seems to be coping quite well with what is the Perfect Storm of elections. Anyone would think that it's gone tits up or that it would be handled better in another liberal democracy.
#822
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Yes you could, Katter and Rudd are friends, while PM Rudd provided the money to rebuild Katters local hospital and visited the constiuency twice, which people thought was odd at the time as labor had little to gain from this.
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Rudd twists Katter's arm to back Labor
Queensland independent Bob Katter has had his arm twisted "pretty firmly" by former prime minister Kevin Rudd to support Labor.
Mr Katter revealed Mr Rudd had tried to persuade him to back a government led by Julia Gillard, who toppled Mr Rudd in a dramatic coup in June that has been blamed for costing Labor seats in Queensland.
Mr Katter refused to rule out supporting Labor, and praised Mr Rudd's leadership - saying he had never indulged in the sort of vote-buying that former Coalition prime minister John Howard had indulged in to sandbag marginal electorates.
Queensland independent Bob Katter has had his arm twisted "pretty firmly" by former prime minister Kevin Rudd to support Labor.
Mr Katter revealed Mr Rudd had tried to persuade him to back a government led by Julia Gillard, who toppled Mr Rudd in a dramatic coup in June that has been blamed for costing Labor seats in Queensland.
Mr Katter refused to rule out supporting Labor, and praised Mr Rudd's leadership - saying he had never indulged in the sort of vote-buying that former Coalition prime minister John Howard had indulged in to sandbag marginal electorates.
#823
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Yes you could, Katter and Rudd are friends, while PM Rudd provided the money to rebuild Katters local hospital and visited the constiuency twice, which people thought was odd at the time as labor had little to gain from this.
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#825
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He'll get his Foreign Minister role that he wants. If for some freak reason he doesn't he will be some sort of foreign envoy. Either way, he'll be in his element.