HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
Oct 21st 2009, 5:13 am
#76
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
Somepeople just dont want to hear the obvious and hence no sympathy when they post "my insurance claim has been rejected and now the other party are seeking compensation what do i do?"
I invite the OP too make one phone call to a prospective insurance company - any one will do.
Then make the statement if my daughter/son/family pet is in a non OZ car seat and we have a accident will I be covered.
Oct 21st 2009, 5:23 am
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
This ISOFIX has been in the pipeline for years...
Safety Innovations for Australian Child Restraints July 2004
http://www.racv.com.au/wps/wcm/conne...e2fa54a1b45993
Safety Innovations for Australian Child Restraints July 2004
http://www.racv.com.au/wps/wcm/conne...e2fa54a1b45993
The issue of adoption or otherwise of ISOFIX or LATCH systems in Australia recently encountered an impasse. (June to December 2003).
The only thing the various parties could agree upon was that further research would assist more informed identification of the best way forward for Australia.
The only thing the various parties could agree upon was that further research would assist more informed identification of the best way forward for Australia.
Early field indicators suggest that the ISOFIX anchorages may not be strong enough, suggesting that it is prudent for Australia to wait and encourage further research and development rather than implement this system immediately.
Better lower fixation of the child restraint system through the adoption of a variant of the ISOFIX/LATCH system.
This would use two flexible lower anchor straps, one for each lower rear corner of the child restraint, which are tensioned after installation so as to provide a near rigid installation.
Better lower fixation of the child restraint system through the adoption of a variant of the ISOFIX/LATCH system.
This would use two flexible lower anchor straps, one for each lower rear corner of the child restraint, which are tensioned after installation so as to provide a near rigid installation.
Oct 21st 2009, 7:26 am
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
This ISOFIX has been in the pipeline for years...
Safety Innovations for Australian Child Restraints July 2004
http://www.racv.com.au/wps/wcm/conne...e2fa54a1b45993
Safety Innovations for Australian Child Restraints July 2004
http://www.racv.com.au/wps/wcm/conne...e2fa54a1b45993
It latches to the cars chassis. I know from experience it is a fair bit stronger than a seat belt which gives flexibility. And regardless of whether I have fitted the seat or it's been fitted by the store, tell me a single person that has not removed their car seat at some time to either wash it, or put it in another car etc, and then have they returned to the shop to get it 'professionally' fitted again. No way....
ISOFIX goes on rigid the first time every time. Cannot get it wrong. I would have thought this is enough to justify its inclusion - not to say it's the best solution, but the best there is at present...
Oct 21st 2009, 9:02 am
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Oct 21st 2009, 10:52 am
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
Oct 21st 2009, 10:55 am
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
So how does one take their seat out to use in a taxi?
Oct 21st 2009, 10:58 am
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Oct 21st 2009, 1:54 pm
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
Ridiculous may be too hard a word, but ISOFIX was introduced (in terms of available seats being sold) in 2004 in the UK, but it appeared in cars a good few years before that, so some five years ago for the UK is certainly not 'fairly recently'.
And it was not just the UK that had a inferior (though not poor) system, much of the rest of the world did too.
ISOFIX was meant to be a global standard for the fitment of car seats. One which Australia has failed to adopt, and IS a better system. It is also one that does not require extensive testing since in many cases the seats are the same but the connection method changes by fitting onto a base that connects rigidly to the cars chassis, and coupled with the fact that many cars sold in Australia have ISOFIX as standard (many if not all Subaru, Toyota, Citroen, Peugeot to name a few) or can easily be retro-fitted with two bolts and a bracket (Ford Focus as an example), it's hardly introducing something totally new as a replacement but actually something else in addition to the existing system that works in conjunction with it.
Taking that into account, it is pretty silly that these seats could easily be licensed and approved but are not...
And it was not just the UK that had a inferior (though not poor) system, much of the rest of the world did too.
ISOFIX was meant to be a global standard for the fitment of car seats. One which Australia has failed to adopt, and IS a better system. It is also one that does not require extensive testing since in many cases the seats are the same but the connection method changes by fitting onto a base that connects rigidly to the cars chassis, and coupled with the fact that many cars sold in Australia have ISOFIX as standard (many if not all Subaru, Toyota, Citroen, Peugeot to name a few) or can easily be retro-fitted with two bolts and a bracket (Ford Focus as an example), it's hardly introducing something totally new as a replacement but actually something else in addition to the existing system that works in conjunction with it.
Taking that into account, it is pretty silly that these seats could easily be licensed and approved but are not...
Oct 22nd 2009, 7:38 am
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
Some countries. like the US, didn't go for ISOFIX they went for the LATCH system.
The explanations were in the article.
I wonder which one we will get in the end.
Oct 22nd 2009, 9:05 am
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
According to ABCs post No 75 it says that these ISOFIX were due to be included in the Aussie standards in 2008. Were they? In which case there's no problem surely.
I have no idea, not needed a car seat for about 10 years now and no intention of requiring one again
I have no idea, not needed a car seat for about 10 years now and no intention of requiring one again
Oct 22nd 2009, 9:38 am
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
Australia doesn't allow you to just use a seat belt to hold a carseat in, it MUST be attached to the anchor point.
Some countries. like the US, didn't go for ISOFIX they went for the LATCH system.
The explanations were in the article.
I wonder which one we will get in the end.
Some countries. like the US, didn't go for ISOFIX they went for the LATCH system.
The explanations were in the article.
I wonder which one we will get in the end.
Booster seat for older large seat = not necessarily so can be just seat belt, may have a tether.
Oct 23rd 2009, 3:04 am
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
As a parent of a toddler and a member of a parenting forum I have read various articles about this issue and some of the conclusions reached (either by myself or others that have researched heavily into this) are:
To mandate ISOFIX would mean a change in the ways the Australian car manufactures produce cars and it could possibly be financially unviable, particularly in an environment where the manufactures are struggling.
ISOFIX has been tested and compared a whole number of times (anyone that subscribes to choice magazine can find the testing there) and found to be a more effective and safer system than the Aus standards or latch. For this reason people who do the research will question putting their child in an 'inferior' seat and I know of some (most of which are not expats) that have elected to import a seat which after extensive research has been in their view the safest available. Particularly if they have a car that has ISOFIX. Most that I know who have done this have approached their insurance company and given them the full information, and requested a written confirmation that in the event of a claim there would be no difference, which they have had (incidently, one of them had an accident and had her ISOFIX seat replaced under the insurance policy)
If it was me and I wanted to import the seat I would be making sure I contacted my insurance company, checked out and got in writing that it would have no impact on my claim in the event of an accident and going with what I believe to be the safest possible option. I have considered importing a booster seat for my toddler when she is bigger, reality for me is that she is a small build and I am ok with the safety standards of the baby seats, but have to admit I am hoping that by the time she outgrows the seat ISOFIX will be legal.
To mandate ISOFIX would mean a change in the ways the Australian car manufactures produce cars and it could possibly be financially unviable, particularly in an environment where the manufactures are struggling.
ISOFIX has been tested and compared a whole number of times (anyone that subscribes to choice magazine can find the testing there) and found to be a more effective and safer system than the Aus standards or latch. For this reason people who do the research will question putting their child in an 'inferior' seat and I know of some (most of which are not expats) that have elected to import a seat which after extensive research has been in their view the safest available. Particularly if they have a car that has ISOFIX. Most that I know who have done this have approached their insurance company and given them the full information, and requested a written confirmation that in the event of a claim there would be no difference, which they have had (incidently, one of them had an accident and had her ISOFIX seat replaced under the insurance policy)
If it was me and I wanted to import the seat I would be making sure I contacted my insurance company, checked out and got in writing that it would have no impact on my claim in the event of an accident and going with what I believe to be the safest possible option. I have considered importing a booster seat for my toddler when she is bigger, reality for me is that she is a small build and I am ok with the safety standards of the baby seats, but have to admit I am hoping that by the time she outgrows the seat ISOFIX will be legal.
Oct 23rd 2009, 7:21 am
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
I think a simple solution would be to allow cars with ISOFIX fittings to be allowed to use ISOFIX car seats, if they adhered to an international standard.
But then, that would be to simple.
But then, that would be to simple.
Oct 24th 2009, 11:12 pm
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
Tragic story, but at least the baby survived with very few injuries in one of those "unsafe" Aussie car seats.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...97-421,00.html
Love
Rudi
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...97-421,00.html
Love
Rudi
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Oct 24th 2009, 11:40 pm
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Re: HELP! How do I get a carseat from the UK to Brisbane cheaply?
I see the Aus v UK debate has reached a new low. Which has the most advanced car seats.
I wait with bated breath for the inevitable "Toilet paper is better in Uk/Aus" thread.
Ps Isn't it odd that we have Ipods, space travel etc, but still wipe our arses with wadded up bits of paper?
I wait with bated breath for the inevitable "Toilet paper is better in Uk/Aus" thread.
Ps Isn't it odd that we have Ipods, space travel etc, but still wipe our arses with wadded up bits of paper?