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Work Hours
Just curious what people's hours are like for work.
Where I'm at, core hours where you have to be working are between 10-4, unless you telecommute, of which there's a few, who only come in once or twice a week. But general hours seem to be 9-6pm, though there are quite a lot that work a lot later than that...but it's hard to really tell because people take lunch whenever, which tends to be around an hour or so. Doesn't help that I started around about when deadlines are due for most, but i've been putting in some serious hours just to get my head around the way they do things and loving it, don't notice how long i end up staying...helps that I live only about 5 mins away from work without traffic, and with, about 10-15 mins. Do notice that people knock off pretty early on a Friday though...and apart from a bunch that live in the same town, there don't seem many that'll go out for drinks after work...though most have a bit of a drive....but, there was a bunch that went for a curry for lunch yesterday, that was a laugh :) |
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The stereotypical American work hours are 9 am to 5 pm. However, that doesn't include lunch, which most people are expected to take and take unpaid. That inserts a half-hour to hour in the middle, and since it seems that people prefer to get up earlier rather than get home later, translates into 8 am to 5 pm.
HOWEVER: * if you are a parent, your hours may be shifted forwards or backwards a bit depending on what time school starts and ends and what time daycare or after-school care ends. * if there's heavy traffic, some people shift their hours -- usually backwards, eg working 6 am to 3 pm to avoid traffic. Americans prize the early bird; coming in at 10 pm and leaving at 7 pm is less impressive. * you work in high tech, and most people are on salary. Even if not, you're expected to work long unpaid hours if there are project deadlines. The positive side of this is that generally no one cares *which* hours you work so long as you work a lot of them. There's tolerance for say, knocking off to see the first Friday afternoon showing of the latest sci-fi flick, so long as you return to work and work a bit late. All the above is of course my opinion based on my experiences and those of my coworkers and friends. |
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Ain't it a bitch having something to do most days. :)
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8am to 5pm monday to friday with an hour lunch that I pretty much take when I please, although I usually try to push it until after 1 pm so I have a nice short afternoon. I think I've stayed later than 5.00 pm once or twice.
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Originally Posted by Pimpbot
8am to 5pm monday to friday with an hour lunch that I pretty much take when I please, although I usually try to push it until after 1 pm so I have a nice short afternoon. I think I've stayed later than 5.00 pm once or twice.
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Our core hours are 9-6 with extra hours on burn days (we make computer games). We are all salaried so at the mercy of the boss when it comes to working extra "fort he game".
we also have a "hardcore" week which tends be one week in 5 and is 4 12 hour days. we get free lunch from a selection of 4 menu's (which is nice). |
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Originally Posted by Bob
Just curious what people's hours are like for work.
Where I'm at, core hours where you have to be working are between 10-4, unless you telecommute, of which there's a few, who only come in once or twice a week. But general hours seem to be 9-6pm, though there are quite a lot that work a lot later than that...but it's hard to really tell because people take lunch whenever, which tends to be around an hour or so. Doesn't help that I started around about when deadlines are due for most, but i've been putting in some serious hours just to get my head around the way they do things and loving it, don't notice how long i end up staying...helps that I live only about 5 mins away from work without traffic, and with, about 10-15 mins. Do notice that people knock off pretty early on a Friday though...and apart from a bunch that live in the same town, there don't seem many that'll go out for drinks after work...though most have a bit of a drive....but, there was a bunch that went for a curry for lunch yesterday, that was a laugh :) |
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We are required to work 80 hours minimum in each 2-week pay period. The thing is, you can't actually do the required work in only 40hrs per week. I average around 46hrs/wk, and often will work 60hrs+ when things are hectic. We don't have paid overtime for our exempt employees, but we do work nominally flexible hours, get "unlimited personal time" (which nobody dares take) and unlimited sick leave.
...and we're "relaxed" about work hours compared to most companies in our industry. Having said that, our vacation allowance is good, benefits are some of the best in the industry, and our salaries reflect the long hours we're expected to put in. |
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8:30 - 5pm.
But I get there at 7:30 to check my e-mails and grab a smoke with a coffee to start my day. I'm on salary so I can pretty much come and go as I please as long as my work is done. |
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Originally Posted by rincewind
But I get there at 7:30 to check my e-mails and grab a smoke with a coffee to start my day. |
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I'm not salaried, although I wish I was however, i am in the unusual position of working in a little satellite office of a huge multi-national corp. This means my boss works out of corp offices 3 hours away in Pittsburgh. Therefore I have no boss checking what time I'm in in the morning and when I leave.
I generally am in the office for about 30-35 hours a week. I'm paid to come in at 8am but I'm not usually in before 9am. And no, I don't care about screwing them over for my time or for the pencils I take either. |
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8-4:30 for me - I take 30mins for lunch and spend most of that walking. The guys in my office go out for lunch almost every day (usually to some "buffet", but occasionally to a nice mexican place, so I'll join them). I don't have to work overtime, but I chose to work quite a bit, since my job is pretty relaxed. At the last place I worked, one of the reasons I quit was becasue they expected overtime and I dug my heels in on that. I've done more overtime in a week at my current place than in a year at the last one.
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Originally Posted by Bob
weird thing about that, smoking, there's only one bloke in the office that smokes, there was a second, but he gave up a few months back....*l*
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Originally Posted by USBound
we also have a "hardcore" week which tends be one week in 5 and is 4 12 hour days.
Still a billion times better than my last company in the UK! |
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what about people who work in the trades such as builders/plumbers etc, what sort of hours do they end up working???
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I'm a lazy arsed State Gov worker, and an IT drone. Anyway, standard hours are 8-5 with an hour for lunch - which I, and many others, actually take most days.
When working beyond those hours, we get comp. time. This means that any extra time worked, basically gets added to my available time off. Based on that, working an extra 2 hours a week, translates as an extra 2 1/2 weeks off a year, which ain't bad. Those on lesser salaries than mine actually get paid overtime. |
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My last job was 6:00 - 2:30pm, 30 minute lunch. Great hours but horrible, horrible job.
New job that I start on Tuesday is 7:00 to 4pm with an hour for lunch. Can't wait to get started :) |
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I have a salaried job but there is no give in the hours. We do 40hrs plus.
Start at 7am with 1hr for lunch. Finish at 4pm. Everybody stays until at least 4:30 each day. I like to go in earlier and leave at 4pm - get funny looks otherwise. :eek: |
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I currently work in retail, and I almost always get the evening shift, typically 1pm until the store closes at 9pm. However, we NEVER leave at 9pm, the earliest is 9.15pm and that's if we don't have any customers to deal with after 8pm. During sales I have sometimes stayed as late as 11pm. I get 30 minutes unpaid break time.
When I worked at Capital One, the first year I had practically the worst schedule in existence: 8pm to 7am, Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon. Yes, I got three days off in a row, but working overnight messed up the rest of the week for me. If I get the new job I interviewed for last week, I'll get a glorious 8.30am to 5pm schedule. I HOPE I GET IT! ~ Jenney |
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Originally Posted by Jenney & Mark
I currently work in retail, and I almost always get the evening shift, typically 1pm until the store closes at 9pm. However, we NEVER leave at 9pm, the earliest is 9.15pm and that's if we don't have any customers to deal with after 8pm. During sales I have sometimes stayed as late as 11pm. I get 30 minutes unpaid break time.
When I worked at Capital One, the first year I had practically the worst schedule in existence: 8pm to 7am, Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon. Yes, I got three days off in a row, but working overnight messed up the rest of the week for me. If I get the new job I interviewed for last week, I'll get a glorious 8.30am to 5pm schedule. I HOPE I GET IT! ~ Jenney |
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Originally Posted by Jenney & Mark
If I get the new job I interviewed for last week, I'll get a glorious 8.30am to 5pm schedule. I HOPE I GET IT! |
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I was working nights....7pm to 7.30am. 12 and a half hour shifts can kill you! Now I work days so start at 6am and work until I'm finished, which could be 5pm or as late as 10pm. Healthcare sucks when it comes to work hours :( It's an hour to work too, so up at 4am.
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7:00-:5:00 or so for me, when I am in the office. Most of my drive is currently a constuction site (not kidding, 10 of 13 miles to be exact) as a new tollroad is constructed over the existing "paid" road. Cummute times for the 13 miles are 20 minutes in the morning, 30 at night. If I left at 8:00 then it would be more like 45 minutes out and returning at 6:00 again 45 minutes. So I get in earlier but "make" another 30 minutes back. Weird logic I know but it works....
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Haven't actually worked in the US since 1989, and then it was just for a few weeks, so not really valid....but - at the time I was London based, and usually worked 8am-8pm, plus after hours calls which could come at any time of the night. I was in shipping (oil tankers) and its a 24 hour business, so you were never really "off duty". When I was working here it was covering for my US equivalent who was off ill. Started at 8.00, and if I was in the office after 5pm, I was the last one there. And I often came in to find a deskfull of problems that should have been dealt with overnight but weren't.....
After that I went to singapore, similar role, similar to UK hours, but with more late night interruptions. And then i came back to Houston - now I stay home and look after the kids, so 'work day' is about 6.30am to 10.00pm, plus a fair number of late night callouts, particularly at the moment when all 3 have nasty sniffly cough-ey colds, and the middle one is getting the growing pains thing in his legs..... |
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I work from 6 am to 4.30 PM Monday-Thursday.
The company introduced a gas saving work week until September.I am salary and have home access courtesy of gotomypc.com so actually work 55 hrs plus a week. I can take time off and work from home as long as I give notice, so do not have a bad job.... just not paid enough for what I do. |
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I swear the industry in which I work (videogames) has to be about the worst going as far as expected hours are concerned. *Officially* it's 9-6, but for whatever weird reason, people seem to think that they shouldn't really leave til gone 7.
However, as we get closer to the product finishing deadline, often many months before it in fact, 7 days a week are often expected. And that's 7 days a week of 9am til *very* late at night. There is no overtime pay. They provide dinner, which we choose from an online menu and get to eat at our desks. How nice. Since they understand that working those kind of hours mean you cant get the normal shit done that you need to throughout the week, onsite laundry, dental, car maintenance and all sort of other crap is often provided. It's about the number one reason I want to get the heck out of Silicon valley. |
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Originally Posted by DarrenP
I swear the industry in which I work (videogames) has to be about the worst going as far as expected hours are concerned. *Officially* it's 9-6, but for whatever weird reason, people seem to think that they shouldn't really leave til gone 7.
However, as we get closer to the product finishing deadline, often many months before it in fact, 7 days a week are often expected. And that's 7 days a week of 9am til *very* late at night. There is no overtime pay. They provide dinner, which we choose from an online menu and get to eat at our desks. How nice. Since they understand that working those kind of hours mean you cant get the normal shit done that you need to throughout the week, onsite laundry, dental, car maintenance and all sort of other crap is often provided. It's about the number one reason I want to get the heck out of Silicon valley. Yeah, we did. Used to live in Contra Costa county. Good luck mate. :) |
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Originally Posted by DarrenP
I swear the industry in which I work (videogames) has to be about the worst going as far as expected hours are concerned. *Officially* it's 9-6, but for whatever weird reason, people seem to think that they shouldn't really leave til gone 7.
However, as we get closer to the product finishing deadline, often many months before it in fact, 7 days a week are often expected. And that's 7 days a week of 9am til *very* late at night. There is no overtime pay. They provide dinner, which we choose from an online menu and get to eat at our desks. How nice. Since they understand that working those kind of hours mean you cant get the normal shit done that you need to throughout the week, onsite laundry, dental, car maintenance and all sort of other crap is often provided. It's about the number one reason I want to get the heck out of Silicon valley. |
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I've always been able to make my own hours within reason. When you first start at a job it's best to always be on time and stay late if necessary. The most important thing it to make sure that all of the work is done - and done on time. I find that there are certain times of day that are most crucial - so I'm always there for those. Other than that - I come and go as I please ..... but that's after proving myself and working out flexible schedules with my colleagues.
Believe me, if you are any good .... they'll give you a long rope. If you are shit - they'll monitor every minute of your day. |
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8am(ish) - 5pm(ish)...as long as the work gets done at the end of the day. In my experience, salaried bosses tend not to give a hoot about the time put in by employees that deliver the goods. There are days when I need to put in the extra effort, and there's an equal amount of days where I have it easy...works out nicely in my mind.
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Originally Posted by dbj1000
Out of interest, how much do they typically pay for a job with hours like that?
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Originally Posted by dbj1000
Out of interest, how much do they typically pay for a job with hours like that?
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Originally Posted by Bob
Out in Cali, about $30K more a year than on the east coast, about $20K more than in Texas roughly, according to the last poll, though that's for junior to middle...producers/designers and leads tend to get more...
....$750K for an ordinary ranch. |
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I am salaried and do 8 hour days. Hours are pretty flexible, anytime between 7-9 and 4-6. Only downside is that being in computing I often have to work some nights and weekends. My boss is pretty good to me though and will tell me to go home at lunchtime somedays when it is slow to compensate.
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Originally Posted by syllk
8am(ish) - 5pm(ish)...as long as the work gets done at the end of the day. In my experience, salaried bosses tend not to give a hoot about the time put in by employees that deliver the goods. There are days when I need to put in the extra effort, and there's an equal amount of days where I have it easy...works out nicely in my mind.
It is nice to be able to take off whenever I need for doctors, appointments etc. Kind of a 'what you take out, you put back' system- for both me and the company. |
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Originally Posted by gardnma
Considering the cost of living there, though, the extra pay isn't really more.
....$750K for an ordinary ranch. |
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Originally Posted by DarrenP
I swear the industry in which I work (videogames) has to be about the worst going as far as expected hours are concerned. *Officially* it's 9-6, but for whatever weird reason, people seem to think that they shouldn't really leave til gone 7.
However, as we get closer to the product finishing deadline, often many months before it in fact, 7 days a week are often expected. And that's 7 days a week of 9am til *very* late at night. There is no overtime pay. They provide dinner, which we choose from an online menu and get to eat at our desks. How nice. Since they understand that working those kind of hours mean you cant get the normal shit done that you need to throughout the week, onsite laundry, dental, car maintenance and all sort of other crap is often provided. It's about the number one reason I want to get the heck out of Silicon valley. Ahhh, memories of working from 10am - 5am for days on end on my last project... :-/ |
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Originally Posted by DarrenP
Well, it actually totally depends on your role within the team really. Senior artists and software engineers can make well it into 6 figures, but the average going rate is probably more like 75k. Of course, if you're in QA/test then its more like minimum wage. Regardless, your role on the project is kind of irrelevant to hours. Everyone on the team is expected to commit well above and beyond. It's simply how the corporate culture is here. I'm done with it, I really am. I don't care about the $ anymore. Life's too short!
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Well, I've been in the industry a long time so of course I fully understand that the hours are to some extent, the nature of the beast. However, I still insist that its worse in the bay area.
Perhaps I should have changed my sentence to "It's the number one reason that I want to get out of Silicon valley and the games industry". Lifestyle is all well and good, If you actually have time for one to exist. The biggest issue I had, was that we were always shipping for thanksgiving, which meant goodbye summer. I haven't had a summer vacation in six years. Dumb. |
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well hours here in cali are better than london. In my business (movies) we were driven like slaves in soho. 10-10 was common. During crunch time we might go through to 1 or 2am and all unpaid overtime.
Here at least its all unionised and its 9-6 (including 1 hour unpaid lunch) though we get paid for 9-8 which we are supposed to work in crunch periods. Any overtime after that is compensated but we rarely work that. The real killer for me is the chronic lack of holidays though. It's enough to make me go back to London. 10 days a year is no way to live a life. Even though you get the public holidays its not the same. The interesting thing is that everyone makes sure to use all their sick days whether they are sick or not, its kind of an unspoken thing where one uses sick days to make up for the lack of holiday
Originally Posted by DarrenP
Well, I've been in the industry a long time so of course I fully understand that the hours are to some extent, the nature of the beast. However, I still insist that its worse in the bay area.
Perhaps I should have changed my sentence to "It's the number one reason that I want to get out of Silicon valley and the games industry". Lifestyle is all well and good, If you actually have time for one to exist. The biggest issue I had, was that we were always shipping for thanksgiving, which meant goodbye summer. I haven't had a summer vacation in six years. Dumb. |
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