Will employer discover previous spent convictions?
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Will employer discover previous spent convictions?
Hi all!
I work for a large international organisation, I have been offered the chance to work at one of their offices in Florida and I would like to take the chance to check out the states for a year or two.
I am under the impression the my employer will complete a H-1B visa and I will complete the DS-160 visa application, but how does this work? My employer doesn't have to view my DS-160 visa application right? (D&D criminal record and a few stupid things when I was under the age of 18).
But since joining this site I have noticed a reply stating that employers use their own lawyers and therefore could become aware of my stupid ways years ago?
Thanks for reading/replying.
Jan
I work for a large international organisation, I have been offered the chance to work at one of their offices in Florida and I would like to take the chance to check out the states for a year or two.
I am under the impression the my employer will complete a H-1B visa and I will complete the DS-160 visa application, but how does this work? My employer doesn't have to view my DS-160 visa application right? (D&D criminal record and a few stupid things when I was under the age of 18).
But since joining this site I have noticed a reply stating that employers use their own lawyers and therefore could become aware of my stupid ways years ago?
Thanks for reading/replying.
Jan
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Re: Will employer discover previous spent convictions?
First establish if anything is a CIMT, or if it was connected to drugs, because if not the matter is moot (irrelevant). A consultation with an experienced immigration attorney of your choosing and your expense i.e. without involving your employer, is probably the best way forward for you.
If you have a prior arrest or conviction that would impact your visa eligibility, the risk is not so much that your employer finds out but that the US authorities find out. The consequences could be profound and immediate.
If you have a prior arrest or conviction that would impact your visa eligibility, the risk is not so much that your employer finds out but that the US authorities find out. The consequences could be profound and immediate.
Last edited by Pulaski; Sep 4th 2013 at 2:59 pm.
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Re: Will employer discover previous spent convictions?
Thanks for the reply!
It's not a CIMT (D&D- and a few stupid things when I was a teenage rebel)- not overly concerned with US immigration and the interview process etc, but I would really hate for my employer to find out...it would easily just turn into gossip and something to talk about next to the coffee machine.
It's not a CIMT (D&D- and a few stupid things when I was a teenage rebel)- not overly concerned with US immigration and the interview process etc, but I would really hate for my employer to find out...it would easily just turn into gossip and something to talk about next to the coffee machine.
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Well between the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act and the Data Protection Act, you're pretty well covered with respect to the risk that your UK employer might find out. The likelihood that it would come to light other than by you disclosing it is surely slim to none, so as long as you are certain that you aren't obligated to disclose the records as involving drugs or CIMTs, your secrets should be safe.
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Re: Will employer discover previous spent convictions?
Thanks for the reply!
It's not a CIMT (D&D- and a few stupid things when I was a teenage rebel)- not overly concerned with US immigration and the interview process etc, but I would really hate for my employer to find out...it would easily just turn into gossip and something to talk about next to the coffee machine.
It's not a CIMT (D&D- and a few stupid things when I was a teenage rebel)- not overly concerned with US immigration and the interview process etc, but I would really hate for my employer to find out...it would easily just turn into gossip and something to talk about next to the coffee machine.
But if youre single, foot loose and fancy free you have nothing to worry about.
Good luck and like Pulaski said I'd see an immigration lawyer under your own steam just to make sure nothing is going to turn around and bite you on the bum.
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Re: Will employer discover previous spent convictions?
There's no spouse to worry about lol!
Do I really have to see an immigration lawyer? See what happened to me was, I came on here for a quick look and then I've suddenly became obsessed with it, and now I've researched it too much and I'm here posting questions about it. I've got a D&D and some stupid things from under the age at 18- which aren't relevant in terms of immigration (I believe). Surely I just go to the interview like everyone else right!
Do I really have to see an immigration lawyer? See what happened to me was, I came on here for a quick look and then I've suddenly became obsessed with it, and now I've researched it too much and I'm here posting questions about it. I've got a D&D and some stupid things from under the age at 18- which aren't relevant in terms of immigration (I believe). Surely I just go to the interview like everyone else right!
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Re: Will employer discover previous spent convictions?
It's totally impossible to say because it depends on how thorough their background check is, if they check with your former employer(s) in the UK and ask them if they know, then they might find out.
The usual check they use though will show up stuff in Florida and some other States only though, the problem with that in Florida is they record nearly everything and it's public record.
A friend of mine was in situation where she was babysitting her sister's kids and her sister showed up drunk and clearly not in a fit state to look after them, so my friend refused to hand them over, her sister got violent so my friend called the police. They took her sister to the police station and she made out a complaint against my friend for domestic violence. As soon as she sobered up she withdrew it but now it's on her record and it shows up when she has background checks run.
The usual check they use though will show up stuff in Florida and some other States only though, the problem with that in Florida is they record nearly everything and it's public record.
A friend of mine was in situation where she was babysitting her sister's kids and her sister showed up drunk and clearly not in a fit state to look after them, so my friend refused to hand them over, her sister got violent so my friend called the police. They took her sister to the police station and she made out a complaint against my friend for domestic violence. As soon as she sobered up she withdrew it but now it's on her record and it shows up when she has background checks run.
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Re: Will employer discover previous spent convictions?
It's totally impossible to say because it depends on how thorough their background check is, if they check with your former employer(s) in the UK and ask them if they know, then they might find out.
The usual check they use though will show up stuff in Florida and some other States only though, the problem with that in Florida is they record nearly everything and it's public record.
A friend of mine was in situation where she was babysitting her sister's kids and her sister showed up drunk and clearly not in a fit state to look after them, so my friend refused to hand them over, her sister got violent so my friend called the police. They took her sister to the police station and she made out a complaint against my friend for domestic violence. As soon as she sobered up she withdrew it but now it's on her record and it shows up when she has background checks run.
The usual check they use though will show up stuff in Florida and some other States only though, the problem with that in Florida is they record nearly everything and it's public record.
A friend of mine was in situation where she was babysitting her sister's kids and her sister showed up drunk and clearly not in a fit state to look after them, so my friend refused to hand them over, her sister got violent so my friend called the police. They took her sister to the police station and she made out a complaint against my friend for domestic violence. As soon as she sobered up she withdrew it but now it's on her record and it shows up when she has background checks run.
Surely the US authorities aren't going to ask my UK based employer about criminal records I'm being completely honest and up-front about? I have every faith in US immigration- and I have a basic understanding of CIMT's- but surely there isn't even a risk of US immigration/embassy/other? of actually 'grassing' me up to my employer? Surely that doesn't make sense right!
Thanks,
Jan
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Thanks again,
Jan
Last edited by CityLife; Sep 4th 2013 at 3:41 pm.
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No, your employer will complete and submit an I-129 petition. The consulate will issue the H-1B visa. Or not.
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I would guess that in the event your visa application is denied your employer might ask you why?
Regards, JEff
... but how does this work? My employer doesn't have to view my DS-160 visa application right? (D&D criminal record and a few stupid things when I was under the age of 18).
But since joining this site I have noticed a reply stating that employers use their own lawyers and therefore could become aware of my stupid ways years ago?
But since joining this site I have noticed a reply stating that employers use their own lawyers and therefore could become aware of my stupid ways years ago?
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If all the offenses are spent and committed when the OP was a juvenile I doubt the offenses will matter as much as the visa denial itself.
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Re: Will employer discover previous spent convictions?
I just wanted to know, that is there a risk of my employer finding out about my criminal records when applying for my visa to work in the states- they will sponsor the application, (UK firm expanding in the US), and I was hoping I could complete my part of the applications- honestly, include criminal record checks etc but I just don't want my employer finding this out- there's no way that would remain secret for long here and I'd hate to be known as a drunk or something, you can imagine an office full of guys etc...also I'm not too sure how that would go down with the higher members of staff, some are in their 60's and well.. I'd rather they didn't know.
Cheers,
Jan
Also- if I were to get my visa declined and my employer asked why, then surely it's up to me how I answer that, US immigration aren't going to tell them! Right?
Last edited by CityLife; Sep 4th 2013 at 4:15 pm.