Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:12 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by Ray
Expected to .....is not fact ....
If the NRA decides to only support Republicans... well you know... makes it worse for everyone.
Michael Moore is a member of the NRA.
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:12 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Why do so many other groups support them too :scared:
I suspect its the power of advertising and uninformed decision making.
* In New York, the NRCC ran an ad accusing Democratic House candidate Michael A. Arcuri, a district attorney, of using taxpayer dollars for phone sex. "Hi, sexy," a dancing woman purrs. "You've reached the live, one-on-one fantasy line." It turns out that one of Arcuri's aides had tried to call the state Division of Criminal Justice, which had a number that was almost identical to that of a porn line. The misdial cost taxpayers $1.25.
* In Ohio, GOP gubernatorial candidate J. Kenneth Blackwell, trailing by more than 20 points in polls, has accused front-running Democratic Rep. Ted Strickland of protecting a former aide who was convicted in 1994 on a misdemeanor indecency charge. Blackwell's campaign is also warning voters through suggestive "push polls" that Strickland failed to support a resolution condemning sex between adults and children. Strickland, a psychiatrist, objected to a line suggesting that sexually abused children cannot have healthy relationships when they grow up.
* The Republican Party of Wisconsin distributed a mailing linking Democratic House candidate Steve Kagen to a convicted serial killer and child rapist. The supposed connection: The "bloodthirsty" attorney for the killer had also done legal work for Kagen.
* In two dozen congressional districts, a political action committee supported by a white Indianapolis businessman, J. Patrick Rooney, is running ads saying Democrats want to abort black babies. A voice says, "If you make a little mistake with one of your hos, you'll want to dispose of that problem tout de suite, no questions asked."
* In the most controversial recent ad, the Republican National Committee slammed Rep. Harold E. Ford Jr. (D-Tenn.) for attending a Playboy-sponsored Super Bowl party. In the ad, a scantily clad white actress winks as she reminisces about good times with Ford, who is black. That ad has been pulled, but the RNC has a new one saying Ford "wants to give the abortion pill to schoolchildren."
Why do so many other groups support them too :scared:
I suspect its the power of advertising and uninformed decision making.
* In New York, the NRCC ran an ad accusing Democratic House candidate Michael A. Arcuri, a district attorney, of using taxpayer dollars for phone sex. "Hi, sexy," a dancing woman purrs. "You've reached the live, one-on-one fantasy line." It turns out that one of Arcuri's aides had tried to call the state Division of Criminal Justice, which had a number that was almost identical to that of a porn line. The misdial cost taxpayers $1.25.
* In Ohio, GOP gubernatorial candidate J. Kenneth Blackwell, trailing by more than 20 points in polls, has accused front-running Democratic Rep. Ted Strickland of protecting a former aide who was convicted in 1994 on a misdemeanor indecency charge. Blackwell's campaign is also warning voters through suggestive "push polls" that Strickland failed to support a resolution condemning sex between adults and children. Strickland, a psychiatrist, objected to a line suggesting that sexually abused children cannot have healthy relationships when they grow up.
* The Republican Party of Wisconsin distributed a mailing linking Democratic House candidate Steve Kagen to a convicted serial killer and child rapist. The supposed connection: The "bloodthirsty" attorney for the killer had also done legal work for Kagen.
* In two dozen congressional districts, a political action committee supported by a white Indianapolis businessman, J. Patrick Rooney, is running ads saying Democrats want to abort black babies. A voice says, "If you make a little mistake with one of your hos, you'll want to dispose of that problem tout de suite, no questions asked."
* In the most controversial recent ad, the Republican National Committee slammed Rep. Harold E. Ford Jr. (D-Tenn.) for attending a Playboy-sponsored Super Bowl party. In the ad, a scantily clad white actress winks as she reminisces about good times with Ford, who is black. That ad has been pulled, but the RNC has a new one saying Ford "wants to give the abortion pill to schoolchildren."
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:13 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by Manc
That's classic:
"The democrats are the party of the niggers. i dont vote with niggers."
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:13 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by Ray
Thats correct ..... she gave up
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:15 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by iaink
Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Why do so many other groups support them too :scared:
I suspect its the power of advertising and uninformed decision making.
* In New York, the NRCC ran an ad accusing Democratic House candidate Michael A. Arcuri, a district attorney, of using taxpayer dollars for phone sex. "Hi, sexy," a dancing woman purrs. "You've reached the live, one-on-one fantasy line." It turns out that one of Arcuri's aides had tried to call the state Division of Criminal Justice, which had a number that was almost identical to that of a porn line. The misdial cost taxpayers $1.25.
* In Ohio, GOP gubernatorial candidate J. Kenneth Blackwell, trailing by more than 20 points in polls, has accused front-running Democratic Rep. Ted Strickland of protecting a former aide who was convicted in 1994 on a misdemeanor indecency charge. Blackwell's campaign is also warning voters through suggestive "push polls" that Strickland failed to support a resolution condemning sex between adults and children. Strickland, a psychiatrist, objected to a line suggesting that sexually abused children cannot have healthy relationships when they grow up.
* The Republican Party of Wisconsin distributed a mailing linking Democratic House candidate Steve Kagen to a convicted serial killer and child rapist. The supposed connection: The "bloodthirsty" attorney for the killer had also done legal work for Kagen.
* In two dozen congressional districts, a political action committee supported by a white Indianapolis businessman, J. Patrick Rooney, is running ads saying Democrats want to abort black babies. A voice says, "If you make a little mistake with one of your hos, you'll want to dispose of that problem tout de suite, no questions asked."
* In the most controversial recent ad, the Republican National Committee slammed Rep. Harold E. Ford Jr. (D-Tenn.) for attending a Playboy-sponsored Super Bowl party. In the ad, a scantily clad white actress winks as she reminisces about good times with Ford, who is black. That ad has been pulled, but the RNC has a new one saying Ford "wants to give the abortion pill to schoolchildren."
Why do so many other groups support them too :scared:
I suspect its the power of advertising and uninformed decision making.
* In New York, the NRCC ran an ad accusing Democratic House candidate Michael A. Arcuri, a district attorney, of using taxpayer dollars for phone sex. "Hi, sexy," a dancing woman purrs. "You've reached the live, one-on-one fantasy line." It turns out that one of Arcuri's aides had tried to call the state Division of Criminal Justice, which had a number that was almost identical to that of a porn line. The misdial cost taxpayers $1.25.
* In Ohio, GOP gubernatorial candidate J. Kenneth Blackwell, trailing by more than 20 points in polls, has accused front-running Democratic Rep. Ted Strickland of protecting a former aide who was convicted in 1994 on a misdemeanor indecency charge. Blackwell's campaign is also warning voters through suggestive "push polls" that Strickland failed to support a resolution condemning sex between adults and children. Strickland, a psychiatrist, objected to a line suggesting that sexually abused children cannot have healthy relationships when they grow up.
* The Republican Party of Wisconsin distributed a mailing linking Democratic House candidate Steve Kagen to a convicted serial killer and child rapist. The supposed connection: The "bloodthirsty" attorney for the killer had also done legal work for Kagen.
* In two dozen congressional districts, a political action committee supported by a white Indianapolis businessman, J. Patrick Rooney, is running ads saying Democrats want to abort black babies. A voice says, "If you make a little mistake with one of your hos, you'll want to dispose of that problem tout de suite, no questions asked."
* In the most controversial recent ad, the Republican National Committee slammed Rep. Harold E. Ford Jr. (D-Tenn.) for attending a Playboy-sponsored Super Bowl party. In the ad, a scantily clad white actress winks as she reminisces about good times with Ford, who is black. That ad has been pulled, but the RNC has a new one saying Ford "wants to give the abortion pill to schoolchildren."
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:16 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Shame... we ended up getting on alright... well I thought.
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:16 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by irnbru4u
Same as home and conservatives, they always promise lower taxes - more money in their pocket (if they follow through)
the thing is Conservatives and Republicans seem to be on the same page in terms of fiscal tax policy, keep the wealtheir wealthy and give token gestures to those less fortunate.
Its just it seems that the republicans mix enough non political stuff like gay marriage and abortion to cloud the logic of a lot of people
Except in the UK Labour has been historically the party of the working classes. You don;t often see coal miners with their whippets supporting the tory pary - or am I completely wrong?
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:18 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by irnbru4u
aahh at the left wing blogs again to copy and paste?
Are you arguing with the facts or the source anyway?
See if you can find any similar actions by the Democrats...and Rush Limbaugh accusing Michael J Fox of faking the shaking does not count!!!
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:18 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
Except in the UK Labour has been historically the party of the working classes. You don;t often see coal miners with their whippets supporting the tory pary - or am I completely wrong?
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:18 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
the thing is Conservatives and Republicans seem to be on the same page in terms of fiscal tax policy, keep the wealtheir wealthy and give token gestures to those less fortunate.
Its just it seems that the republicans mix enough non political stuff like gay marriage and abortion to cloud the logic of a lot of people
Except in the UK Labour has been historically the party of the working classes. You don;t often see coal miners with their whippets supporting the tory pary - or am I completely wrong?
Its just it seems that the republicans mix enough non political stuff like gay marriage and abortion to cloud the logic of a lot of people
Except in the UK Labour has been historically the party of the working classes. You don;t often see coal miners with their whippets supporting the tory pary - or am I completely wrong?
especially the coal miners! But I do believe you can in both sides of the debate bring in gay marriage etc and still be logical
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:19 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by Manc
the same could be said of the democrats though.
If they are the political party for poor people, why were there still poor people after 8 years of Clinton.........
I know it's very simplistic.
If they are the political party for poor people, why were there still poor people after 8 years of Clinton.........
I know it's very simplistic.
although I would be interested in see statisics giving a idea of how the working and middle classes fared in those 8 years compared to the last 5
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:22 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by irnbru4u
no you don't especially the coal miners! But I do believe you can in both sides of the debate bring in gay marriage etc and still be logical
especially the coal miners! But I do believe you can in both sides of the debate bring in gay marriage etc and still be logical people are dying in Iraq.
dying.......
lots of them
100 US soldiers last month alone.
778 wounded in October.........
but lets worry about a few shirt lifters who want spousal benefits instead......
I mean jesus christ..........
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:23 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
the thing is Conservatives and Republicans seem to be on the same page in terms of fiscal tax policy, keep the wealtheir wealthy and give token gestures to those less fortunate.
Its just it seems that the republicans mix enough non political stuff like gay marriage and abortion to cloud the logic of a lot of people
Except in the UK Labour has been historically the party of the working classes. You don;t often see coal miners with their whippets supporting the tory pary - or am I completely wrong?
Its just it seems that the republicans mix enough non political stuff like gay marriage and abortion to cloud the logic of a lot of people
Except in the UK Labour has been historically the party of the working classes. You don;t often see coal miners with their whippets supporting the tory pary - or am I completely wrong?
The Republicans could be so much better than they are right now, but choose not to be and instead concentrate their efforts on these moral crusades.
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:23 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by iaink
Well, the right wing ones are hardly likely to publicise how low the Republicans will stoop to keep power are they?
Are you arguing with the facts or the source?
See if you can find any similar actions by the Democrats...and Rush Limbaugh accusing Michael J Fox of faking the shaking does not count!!!
Are you arguing with the facts or the source?
See if you can find any similar actions by the Democrats...and Rush Limbaugh accusing Michael J Fox of faking the shaking does not count!!!
I do try not getting into politics here on BE as I find people on either side to be bores trying to thrust their views down my throat! It was more from the source as your original comments seemed to be that republicans had more outlets for their viewpoints etc whereas, last few days the independent company (can't remember their names) said that the news organisations were 66% (I think) in the lead up to the elections, in favour of the democrats.
Nov 2nd 2006, 4:27 pm
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Re: Why do so many lower-income white americans support the Republican?
Originally Posted by Manc
Why is Gay marriage such a f--king issue? it was flogged to death 2 years ago when Rove got it on the ballot to bring out the Red state base.
people are dying in Iraq.
dying.......
lots of them
100 US soldiers last month alone.
778 wounded in October.........
but lets worry about a few shirt lifters who want spousal benefits instead......
I mean jesus christ..........
people are dying in Iraq.
dying.......
lots of them
100 US soldiers last month alone.
778 wounded in October.........
but lets worry about a few shirt lifters who want spousal benefits instead......
I mean jesus christ..........