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Old Apr 5th 2006, 1:11 pm
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interesting article

http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...rch=immigrants
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Old Apr 5th 2006, 1:20 pm
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Very good ... A lot to agree with there .........
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IMO, the second group is a minority; I've met plenty of "Hispanics" who look down on that group.

Saying that, I was told by the cleaner at my gym that I should learn Spanish - he asked me in Spanish to move out the way so he could clean and I stared at him blankly ; then he proceeded to tell me in broken English:

"You know, Europeans know two languages" - as if to say Americans were inferior.

Which I told him was not true because I was European; OK I kind of lied but I was a bit annoyed at his comment.
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IMO, the second group is a minority; I've met plenty of "Hispanics" who look down on that group.

Saying that, I was told by the cleaner at my gym that I should learn Spanish - he asked me in Spanish to move out the way so he could clean and I stared at him blankly ; then he proceeded to tell me in broken English:

"You know, Europeans know two languages" - as if to say Americans were inferior.

Which I told him was not true because I was European; OK I kind of lied but I was a bit annoyed at his comment.
That was a threat ..shoot the *****er.......
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That was a threat ..shoot the *****er.......
In the face?

The funny thing is, now he talks to me in English; it's broken English but he still tries.
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An excellent, insightful, article.

I do feel that an amnesty should be offered. If the illegals take it, knowing that they will have to assimilate, pay taxes, do jury duty, good for them.

Of course, they could be offered Residency (Green Card) rather than Citizenship in which case they would not have to assimilate or do jury duty but only pay taxes just like me.

Any "illegals" who refuse the amnesty are simply here illegally and should be sent back to wherever they came from, at their own expense.
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IMO, the second group is a minority; I've met plenty of "Hispanics" who look down on that group.

Saying that, I was told by the cleaner at my gym that I should learn Spanish - he asked me in Spanish to move out the way so he could clean and I stared at him blankly ; then he proceeded to tell me in broken English:

"You know, Europeans know two languages" - as if to say Americans were inferior.

Which I told him was not true because I was European; OK I kind of lied but I was a bit annoyed at his comment.
Since when does the janitor tell a paying guest to move? Good thing he doesn't work for me.
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Which I told him was not true because I was European; OK I kind of lied but I was a bit annoyed at his comment.
So are you not european or do you speak 2 languages ??
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So are you not european or do you speak 2 languages ??
What the guy actually said was "wanna licky dicky" ...
but AL is being shy ....
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So are you not european or do you speak 2 languages ??
Well he said they do, and I actually agree to a point - many Europeans do seem to (except the Brits!).
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What the guy actually said was "wanna licky dicky" ...
but AL is being shy ....
Oh that wasn't the cleaner.....
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Back to the article - I think the author makes some good points, but his idea of what makes a true "immigrant" is a rather misty-eyed, rose-tinted one.
Speaking as someone who works with a lot of fellow immigrants I would say that most of us are here for the money.
Now that their own economy is booming most Indians I work with are now looking to move back home.
All they ever wanted was what was best for them and their families, not to become Americans and I would be surprised if many ever came here solely to become "American".
Why did the poles and jews he mentioned come here ?? To get the f**k away from hitler, stalin et al i should imagine.

If I was ever to stay here long enough to have kids and they were to grow up american educated, with american accents I would be profoundly sad.

What does citizenship mean to me - that I could come and go as I please, nothing more, nothing less.

His points about people not learning english, etc are spot on and can be applied just as well to the UK.
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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Well he said they do, and I actually agree to a point - many Europeans do seem to (except the Brits!).
that's cos we already know English

Lets face it ...if somebody only knows two languages it's because their first one wasn't English. However people who speak several languages just do it to show off
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that's cos we already know English

Lets face it ...if somebody only knows two languages it's because their first one wasn't English. However people who speak several languages just do it to show off
and "show off" they do.... I've always been impressed when I go to the Netherlands and say to someone... "do you speak English?" and they say "a little"... then I ask a question, and they reply with a long sentence perfect English!

A little humbling really, and kind of sad.
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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
A little humbling really, and kind of sad.
Very true. The lack of willingness of the British to learn other languages is pure ignorance. I have toured Europe on my beloved motorbike and made the effort to speak the native language of every country I visited. It is appreciated by the locals; even my French with a Nottinghamshire twang.

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