What is up with UK sentencing - again
 

Guy kills 2 year old with Air Gun. Found guilty for Murder. Given life sentence. HOORAY.... Must serve at least 13 years - AGHHHHH....

When will these judges/politicians say enough is enough. Life should mean Life and perhaps these bastxxrds will think twice - just perhaps.

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Scots law, so different to England & Wales.

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Thirteen years...that's the time from when I left secondary school to now. Seems like a pretty long time to me to be banged up in an 8 by 12 cell for 22 hours a day. I'll love one of you conservative types to actually spend some time in a real prison and not just take the Daily Mail's word for it that it's all free satellite telly and jolly japes in the shower room.

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If the 13 years is 13. He was responsible for his actions and it is called accountability. 20yrs without parole would have been the least I would have given him. Do you actually know that he is going to be locked up for 22 hrs a day for 13 years? I do not think you do.

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Need some case details here.

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The number of hours one is locked in a cell is really not that relevant. It just annoys me when people seem to assume that 10+ years in prison is an easy holiday. It's not, as anybody who has spent a considerable amount of time in prison will tell you. As for 60 years, or 40 years, or 20 years being a more effective deterrent than 10 years, it's all crap. Disembowelling people and sticking their severed heads on pikes never seemed to be much of a deterrent in the middle ages, and electrocuting people to death doesn't seem much of a deterrent today. If torture and death don't deter people, why in the hell would a few more years on a prison sentence?

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I hope it is not all jolly japes, after all he deserves every second of misery coming to him. He deliberately aimed and shot dead a toddler for no reason at all, how long before he 'accidently falls down the stairs' in jail ?

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I wonder how much extra the right wing are prepared to pay in taxes in order to keep people locked up for life / longer?

$100 the first year?
$200 the second year?
$300 the third year?


how much extra in taxes to keep people locked up are they willing to pay?

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Perhaps they should just let him off with a slap on the wrist and make him wear an electronic tag for 6 months. Perish the thought of a child killer spending the rest of his life in prison. That's not conservative, that's common sense.

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Got a link to the story? how old was the bloke?

And sentences are going to depend on a lot of things, and 13 years or 20 years, ain't going to bring the kid back, and a stretch like that in prison either way isn't much of a deterant is it, plus future prospects are *****ed either way and he'll just be another burden on society.

Nothing wrong with prison, but it's hardly working is it...

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Exactly. Pointing out that prison is a proven failure and zero deterent is not remotely the same as saying murderers should walk free with a few harsh words.

The average cost of keeping a prisoner incarcerated in the UK is anywhere between 15,000 and 25,000 a year, depending on the prison. The difference between a ten year sentence and a 40 year sentence is potentially 750,000 pounds. You can buy a lot of therapy, drug rehab and career training for 3/4 of a million. If you want revenge, fine, but don't pay for it out of my taxes.

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Here's the link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4196980.stm

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So your solution is???

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Newcastle police are after 2 shits who set fire to a house with a 21 yr old woman & her 4 month old baby in. The baby died.

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send them to Australia.