Welfare Question
#62
Re: Welfare Question
Very true... makes me wonder though, would they need to go to food pantries or deer processors if they spend their food stamps a little more carfully.
#63
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,109
Re: Welfare Question
I remember when I was a kid we would go to my grandmother's home in western North Carolina and she would get government staples each month, e.g. rice, flour, powdered eggs and milk
Now it's probably less overhead for the government to use Food Stamps and Independence Cards, but Food Stamps should not be allowed to be used for fast foods. Should be for staples only, e.g, bread, eggs, milk, meat, flour, etc.
Here a person is supposedly poor and they are being provided money to buy food and blowing it ordering pizza. If that's the case maybe they need to reduce the amount of Food Stamps. Let them buy a pizza kit and make their own pizza.
Now it's probably less overhead for the government to use Food Stamps and Independence Cards, but Food Stamps should not be allowed to be used for fast foods. Should be for staples only, e.g, bread, eggs, milk, meat, flour, etc.
Here a person is supposedly poor and they are being provided money to buy food and blowing it ordering pizza. If that's the case maybe they need to reduce the amount of Food Stamps. Let them buy a pizza kit and make their own pizza.
#64
Re: Welfare Question
I was stuck in line behind a woman at Dominicks the other day who was using what was left on her food stamp card to buy soda. She was arguing about the deal she was supposed to get on it, her card wouldn't let her buy that much apparently. I couldn't help but think that she could have spent that money on so many better food products for her kids than soda. It wasn't even diet!
#65
Re: Welfare Question
You assume that these people have time on their hands to cook when the minimum wage is not a livable wage? Granted a pizza kit isn't cooking, but using staples from the government program would definitely require cooking. My grandparents would get some too, but my grandmother did not work. Cooking is the last freaking thing I want to do after starting the day at 5 am and walking in the door at 6 pm.
#68
Re: Welfare Question
There's only so much time in the day. Would I rather a low-income parent spend time cooking from scratch, or time going over homework with the kids? I know I spend every damn minute sleep deprived and doing stuff with and for the kids (school mostly) and there's very little "me" time (I should be in bed now). None of this would change if I suddenly began making the minimum wage.
It drives me absolutely insane that a political party can call themselves "family values" and then screw, absolutely screw over children. Children are more likely to be in poverty; educational spending is lousy; and the President won't expand CHIP. It's somehow a sin to abort a fetus, but once it's here the government is more than happy to have the child live in abject neglect -- hell, it'll even lose some children in foster care.
This is shit, pure shit.
#69
Mr. Grumpy
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 3,100
Re: Welfare Question
I completely agree
I just evicted a couple who had 2-3 young kids for non payment of rent
after me telling her that she or her partner should get additional employment to increase their income she told me ' I already work from 12-8:30, when would i see my kids?'
i nearly laughed at this ****ed up retarded repsonse. last time i checked 8.5 hours is a normal working day and considering a lot of my friends and I have a part time job in addition to our regular income i though her statement was ridiculous... work more and see your kids less or become homeless. I know which is preferable
even more ridiculous is that both the tenants are 3-400 pounds and despite not paying rent they felt that getting take away sushi from walmart/kroger is a good plan :curse:
#70
Mr. Grumpy
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 3,100
Re: Welfare Question
I don't think you get this.
There's only so much time in the day. Would I rather a low-income parent spend time cooking from scratch, or time going over homework with the kids? I know I spend every damn minute sleep deprived and doing stuff with and for the kids (school mostly) and there's very little "me" time (I should be in bed now). None of this would change if I suddenly began making the minimum wage.
It drives me absolutely insane that a political party can call themselves "family values" and then screw, absolutely screw over children. Children are more likely to be in poverty; educational spending is lousy; and the President won't expand CHIP. It's somehow a sin to abort a fetus, but once it's here the government is more than happy to have the child live in abject neglect -- hell, it'll even lose some children in foster care.
This is shit, pure shit.
There's only so much time in the day. Would I rather a low-income parent spend time cooking from scratch, or time going over homework with the kids? I know I spend every damn minute sleep deprived and doing stuff with and for the kids (school mostly) and there's very little "me" time (I should be in bed now). None of this would change if I suddenly began making the minimum wage.
It drives me absolutely insane that a political party can call themselves "family values" and then screw, absolutely screw over children. Children are more likely to be in poverty; educational spending is lousy; and the President won't expand CHIP. It's somehow a sin to abort a fetus, but once it's here the government is more than happy to have the child live in abject neglect -- hell, it'll even lose some children in foster care.
This is shit, pure shit.
i think the point is the the other poster is saying that pre-prepared food is more costly than takeaway... If you are under the poverty line then you need to do what it takes
I completely agree with you regarding screwing over children, however in my experience in a lot of cases parents have a lot to answer for.
to put into context I had a very underprivileged childhood so i've been there first hand, my wife has been dealing with indigent families for 5-6 years and a bunch of my friends are social workers
Last edited by BritGuyTN; Jan 8th 2008 at 4:47 pm.
#71
Re: Welfare Question
yup
I completely agree
I just evicted a couple who had 2-3 young kids for non payment of rent
after me telling her that she or her partner should get additional employment to increase their income she told me ' I already work from 12-8:30, when would i see my kids?'
i nearly laughed at this ****ed up retarded repsonse. last time i checked 8.5 hours is a normal working day and considering a lot of my friends and I have a part time job in addition to our regular income i though her statement was ridiculous... work more and see your kids less or become homeless. I know which is preferable.
I completely agree
I just evicted a couple who had 2-3 young kids for non payment of rent
after me telling her that she or her partner should get additional employment to increase their income she told me ' I already work from 12-8:30, when would i see my kids?'
i nearly laughed at this ****ed up retarded repsonse. last time i checked 8.5 hours is a normal working day and considering a lot of my friends and I have a part time job in addition to our regular income i though her statement was ridiculous... work more and see your kids less or become homeless. I know which is preferable.
#72
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,109
Re: Welfare Question
I don't think you get this.
There's only so much time in the day. Would I rather a low-income parent spend time cooking from scratch, or time going over homework with the kids? I know I spend every damn minute sleep deprived and doing stuff with and for the kids (school mostly) and there's very little "me" time (I should be in bed now). None of this would change if I suddenly began making the minimum wage.
It drives me absolutely insane that a political party can call themselves "family values" and then screw, absolutely screw over children. Children are more likely to be in poverty; educational spending is lousy; and the President won't expand CHIP. It's somehow a sin to abort a fetus, but once it's here the government is more than happy to have the child live in abject neglect -- hell, it'll even lose some children in foster care.
This is shit, pure shit.
There's only so much time in the day. Would I rather a low-income parent spend time cooking from scratch, or time going over homework with the kids? I know I spend every damn minute sleep deprived and doing stuff with and for the kids (school mostly) and there's very little "me" time (I should be in bed now). None of this would change if I suddenly began making the minimum wage.
It drives me absolutely insane that a political party can call themselves "family values" and then screw, absolutely screw over children. Children are more likely to be in poverty; educational spending is lousy; and the President won't expand CHIP. It's somehow a sin to abort a fetus, but once it's here the government is more than happy to have the child live in abject neglect -- hell, it'll even lose some children in foster care.
This is shit, pure shit.
Educational spending is lousy? I would like to lnow the total spend on education at the county, state and federal level and the more money spent the worse it gets.
Didn't expand CHIP because they wanted to include families that were not poor, but like every government program they try to make it bigger and bigger.
#73
Mr. Grumpy
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 3,100
Re: Welfare Question
the minimum wage is totally too low and i know parenting is a huge responsibility, but it is what it is and you need to do what it takes to have food on the table and a roof over your head
#74
Mr. Grumpy
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 3,100
Re: Welfare Question
just saw what CHIP is - yes, when Bush vetoed it I thought it was horrendous
#75
Re: Welfare Question
I agree that that it's better to have a roof over your head -- but so many days I'm near physical and emotional collapse from work, the house, and the kids. I can't imagine doing it all for $7 per hour.